KaraokeKarlton
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Sun Aug-24-03 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #56 |
| 65. Um, hello...he's mentioned it a gazillion times already |
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Edited on Sun Aug-24-03 06:19 PM by KaraokeKarlton
Everyone already knows Kerry was in Vietnam, just like loads of other people in the country. My uncle has more medals than Kerry, was wounded more times and more seriously and he was in Korea too. But you know what...that doesn't give him a free ride wherever he wants to go in life. I don't know a single person who cares about a politician's military record. They care about their political record. On top of that, being in Vietnam might even turn some people off. Why? Because we ALL know at least one veteran of that war who isn't so mentally stable. Add to that the fact that Kerry can't quite figure out what side of the war fence he stands on and that record doesn't amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things. Trying to make a big fuss over this is JUST as pathetic as hearing Lieberman repeat how "he and Al Gore already beat Bush" or Edwards remind us all about his poor factory working poppa and Gephardt tell another story about his Teamster father.
No one cares about any of it. If a politician is going to use quantifiers they should use their record to do so.
Had to edit this a bit. They should use their POLITICAL records, and what they've done in their political career...not what they did before.
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| -Good or bad move by Kerry? |
ilpostino |
Aug-24-03 03:13 PM |
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Oh sheeeeeesh John. Don't do it. |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-24-03 03:17 PM |
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I could't agree more |
Eloriel |
Aug-24-03 03:20 PM |
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LOL - John Dean is not narcissist? HAHHAHA!!!! |
molly |
Aug-24-03 03:59 PM |
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Name removed |
Aug-24-03 04:03 PM |
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The WH Lawyer under Nixon |
salin |
Aug-24-03 05:30 PM |
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Not sure |
AWD |
Aug-24-03 07:17 PM |
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I started attack mode about 3 weeks ago because this |
molly |
Aug-24-03 11:12 PM |
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John Dean is not running for President. |
Larkspur |
Aug-25-03 09:46 AM |
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I like John Kerry |
Jawja |
Aug-24-03 05:37 PM |
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Jawja--Announcing in front of a carrier is a bold poltical move |
DJcairo |
Aug-25-03 11:49 AM |
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Risky |
JVS |
Aug-24-03 03:18 PM |
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Bad |
goobergunch |
Aug-24-03 03:19 PM |
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It gets tiresome..... |
virtualobserver |
Aug-24-03 03:21 PM |
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It depends on what Kerry says... |
Octafish |
Aug-24-03 03:29 PM |
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You really think Kerry should engage in a dick measuring contest with Bush |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 03:32 PM |
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I've followed his career since 1972. |
Octafish |
Aug-24-03 08:40 PM |
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It's bad because people like Ann Coulter... |
Composed Thinker |
Aug-24-03 03:32 PM |
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Let me get this straight |
legin |
Aug-24-03 03:33 PM |
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Exactly. Swing voters will either say "Oh, I guess *'s stunt wasn't so |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 03:51 PM |
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Dupe |
SayitAintSo |
Aug-24-03 11:03 PM |
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I might have more sympathy if he announced in front of a replica of |
Gloria |
Aug-24-03 03:48 PM |
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His crew will be with him |
molly |
Aug-24-03 04:02 PM |
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Oh, so he'll have his multi-cultural props, eh? |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 04:05 PM |
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While I think the stunt might be imprudent ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-24-03 05:58 PM |
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His "multi-cultural props" ???? |
blm |
Aug-25-03 08:50 AM |
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Disguting bigot-talk |
sangh0 |
Aug-25-03 09:56 AM |
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It's not a far step from war posturing to war-mongering. |
revcarol |
Aug-24-03 03:54 PM |
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Dean also said he was misled |
sangh0 |
Aug-25-03 10:29 AM |
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This is about the 4th thread started about this |
molly |
Aug-24-03 03:58 PM |
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Of course you do dear |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 04:01 PM |
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So who do you support? |
Octafish |
Aug-24-03 08:53 PM |
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SZJ is for Dean |
sangh0 |
Aug-25-03 11:07 AM |
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Horrible, horrible move |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-24-03 03:58 PM |
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He has barely begun to fight |
molly |
Aug-24-03 04:04 PM |
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Yeah, and if this is him "fighting", then I'll pass |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 04:07 PM |
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no shit |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-24-03 04:47 PM |
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Presidential campaigns are about oneupmanship. Gimmicks, stunts etc. |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 04:12 PM |
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Oh please |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 04:19 PM |
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This pundit-in-training will just have to wait and see. BTW, many of those |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 04:24 PM |
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Guess what? I was (sort of) one of those people |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 04:29 PM |
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Kerry should have done an Apocalypse Now re-enactment....... |
virtualobserver |
Aug-24-03 04:32 PM |
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If security/defense is an issue in 2004, Kerry needs to demonstrate |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 04:50 PM |
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So using them for props the EXACT SAME WAY Bush did shows |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 05:26 PM |
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"exact same way" I doubt it. It will,however, be similar thus enabling |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 05:42 PM |
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You've got to be joking. |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-24-03 04:54 PM |
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Kerry will not have a "Mission Acomplished" banner in the background. |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 05:36 PM |
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"What's a bona-fide war hero to do?" |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 05:40 PM |
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Kerry's move diminishes Bush's "genuine battle commander" status |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 05:49 PM |
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Um, hello...he's mentioned it a gazillion times already |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-24-03 06:16 PM |
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"no one cares about any of it"? polls show that Americans do care |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 06:21 PM |
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Like I said..think what you want to think |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-24-03 07:50 PM |
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Kerry also gets to separate himself from the rest of the declared |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 08:01 PM |
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"no-dick pencil pushers"? |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-24-03 09:24 PM |
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Kerry's challenge to the GOP machine: Bring 'em on |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 09:39 PM |
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Well I think it's lame |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-24-03 09:56 PM |
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Believe what you want |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-24-03 06:05 PM |
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To not counter Rove and his Chimp would be "dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 06:33 PM |
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Counter what exactly? |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-24-03 08:00 PM |
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Lieberman's going nowhere. Kerry's just gearing up. Dean, DK, Gep |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 09:36 PM |
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Will Glory days be playing in the background? |
loyalsister |
Aug-24-03 10:25 PM |
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Millions of Americans are impressed and proud of their armed services. |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 10:40 PM |
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I respect them |
loyalsister |
Aug-25-03 02:06 AM |
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Be honest. You don't respect them |
sangh0 |
Aug-25-03 10:03 AM |
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It's propaganda |
loyalsister |
Aug-25-03 02:27 PM |
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Be honest |
sangh0 |
Aug-25-03 04:12 PM |
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yes, just looks like he doesn't have any original ideas |
ima_sinnic |
Aug-24-03 04:24 PM |
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BAD move- Letting The Junta define the campaign.... |
MiltonLeBerle |
Aug-24-03 04:09 PM |
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The Kerry Campaign Should Fire Bob Shrum And Hire Me |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-24-03 04:17 PM |
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shrum is clueless |
virtualobserver |
Aug-24-03 04:28 PM |
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I agree |
salin |
Aug-24-03 05:33 PM |
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"in front of a group of Viet Nam vets" |
MaineDem |
Aug-24-03 05:40 PM |
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If Kerry wants a real media event. |
Corgigal |
Aug-24-03 04:33 PM |
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Kerry could have announced with Military Families Speak Out |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 04:36 PM |
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Could be briliant... |
ilpostino |
Aug-24-03 04:40 PM |
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The problem is, he won't admit he was wrong about the war |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 04:47 PM |
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The UN card |
ilpostino |
Aug-24-03 05:09 PM |
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Dean never said HE was mislead? |
molly |
Aug-24-03 06:10 PM |
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I Agree With Much Of What You Say |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-24-03 04:52 PM |
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ilpostino, i've quoted you over at toughenough04.blogspot.com |
DJcairo |
Aug-24-03 06:02 PM |
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Good site |
ilpostino |
Aug-25-03 10:41 AM |
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Is he going to wear a big belt buckle and a cowboy hat? |
bandera |
Aug-24-03 05:17 PM |
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I Don't Mind The Military Symbolism |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-24-03 05:29 PM |
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How does posing in front of a fucking battleship or on an aircraft carrier |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 05:32 PM |
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I think he could have chosen a better backdrop. |
JanMichael |
Aug-24-03 05:30 PM |
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Maybe he could ride the bomb ala Slim Pickens |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 05:33 PM |
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Kerry hits political slam dunk |
DJcairo |
Aug-24-03 05:39 PM |
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So he's going to contrast himself with Bush by doing almost exactly what |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 05:43 PM |
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oh please |
DJcairo |
Aug-24-03 05:47 PM |
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Parenthetically |
ilpostino |
Aug-24-03 05:49 PM |
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Kerry has pull with the military. This is a good thing. |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 06:00 PM |
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if he wants to use a ship for a backdrop ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-24-03 05:54 PM |
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Idiotic move |
PurityOfEssence |
Aug-24-03 06:04 PM |
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Great move....he's going straight after the fraud in chief |
blm |
Aug-24-03 06:22 PM |
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"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 06:38 PM |
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This is a great move by Kerry.... |
styersc |
Aug-24-03 07:14 PM |
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Bad strategy |
UnapologeticLiberal |
Aug-24-03 07:59 PM |
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Learn the difference |
DJcairo |
Aug-24-03 08:07 PM |
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Mr Kerry should not tout his medals too much... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Aug-24-03 08:21 PM |
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He earned the Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat "V" and ... |
Octafish |
Aug-24-03 09:16 PM |
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to anyone complaining about Kerry's pending event |
Zech Marquis |
Aug-24-03 09:50 PM |
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hits a nerve with Dean supporters |
xequals |
Aug-24-03 09:17 PM |
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"whatever dude mentality"?? You are too cruel sir. |
oasis |
Aug-24-03 09:47 PM |
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What I mean |
xequals |
Aug-24-03 10:00 PM |
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And I can't respect a "war hero" who gives Bush carte blanche in my |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 10:26 PM |
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Kerry did the right thing as he saw it. |
Octafish |
Aug-24-03 10:51 PM |
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So our soldiers dying for no good reason is good for the country? |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 11:03 PM |
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Dean wasn't in a position to take any position, |
xequals |
Aug-24-03 11:15 PM |
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Uh huh, sure |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 11:30 PM |
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People like you would have allowed Bush a REAL blank check. |
blm |
Aug-25-03 08:40 AM |
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More horseshit |
SweetZombieJesus |
Aug-24-03 10:23 PM |
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Did you read post 64 ? |
molly |
Aug-24-03 11:29 PM |
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Aug-24-03 11:33 PM |
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OK - here is the Dean interview - the person you have |
molly |
Aug-25-03 10:39 AM |
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Dean gave Bush* a pass |
sangh0 |
Aug-25-03 11:10 AM |
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Kerry scares the Dean supporters |
sangh0 |
Aug-25-03 10:05 AM |
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I plan to be there - bold move, hope he pulls it off |
SayitAintSo |
Aug-24-03 11:05 PM |
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Yes show up in SC to support Kerry |
DJcairo |
Aug-24-03 11:36 PM |
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The idiot is a pathetic hasbeen |
CWebster |
Aug-25-03 06:36 AM |
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I agree.......this is what turned me off in the beginning....he should be |
KoKo01 |
Aug-25-03 10:15 AM |
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Bad idea |
DealsGapRider |
Aug-25-03 09:06 AM |
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If Kerry wants to look strong, he should be doing what Dean is doing |
Larkspur |
Aug-25-03 09:57 AM |
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Kerry has strong progressive Democratic credentials |
blm |
Aug-25-03 10:26 AM |
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Besides that - Kerry has a job, Dean doesn't |
molly |
Aug-25-03 10:31 AM |
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When |
CWebster |
Aug-25-03 10:36 AM |
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Its too bad then |
CWebster |
Aug-25-03 10:34 AM |
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He doesn't HAVE to appear macho... |
blm |
Aug-25-03 11:15 AM |
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Kerry was in Vietnam? |
killbotfactory |
Aug-25-03 11:23 AM |
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Will he get another medal for the 6113 dead Iraqi civilians |
bandera |
Aug-25-03 11:34 AM |
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This country has been misled on a host of issues. |
DJcairo |
Aug-25-03 11:44 AM |
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Strong leader? |
bandera |
Aug-25-03 12:02 PM |
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Dean also said he was "misled" |
sangh0 |
Aug-25-03 02:29 PM |
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Obviously taken out of context, if he really did say it |
Larkspur |
Aug-25-03 03:01 PM |
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He did say that Bush was misled by others. |
blm |
Aug-25-03 04:08 PM |
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The facts hurt |
sangh0 |
Aug-25-03 04:13 PM |
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There seems to be something missing. |
bandera |
Aug-25-03 05:15 PM |
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A strawman argument. |
bandera |
Aug-25-03 05:01 PM |
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I thought he was announcing in IOWA |
sinookas |
Aug-25-03 05:25 PM |
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