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24. The Kerry Campaign Should Fire Bob Shrum And Hire Me
He should made his speech in front of a group of Viet Nam vets, preferably those who served with him.

That would have been powerful symbolism.

I am afraid the aircraft carrier is going to appear over the top.

That's so sad cuz I think Kerry is one of our stronger but not the strongest candidate in the Fall.
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  -Good or bad move by Kerry? ilpostino  Aug-24-03 03:13 PM   #0 
  - Oh sheeeeeesh John. Don't do it.  VolcanoJen   Aug-24-03 03:17 PM   #1 
  - I could't agree more  Eloriel   Aug-24-03 03:20 PM   #4 
  - LOL - John Dean is not narcissist? HAHHAHA!!!!  molly   Aug-24-03 03:59 PM   #15 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-03 04:03 PM   #18 
     - The WH Lawyer under Nixon  salin   Aug-24-03 05:30 PM   #43 
     - Not sure  AWD   Aug-24-03 07:17 PM   #71 
        - I started attack mode about 3 weeks ago because this  molly   Aug-24-03 11:12 PM   #97 
           - John Dean is not running for President.  Larkspur   Aug-25-03 09:46 AM   #108 
  - I like John Kerry  Jawja   Aug-24-03 05:37 PM   #49 
     - Jawja--Announcing in front of a carrier is a bold poltical move  DJcairo   Aug-25-03 11:49 AM   #127 
  - Risky  JVS   Aug-24-03 03:18 PM   #2 
  - Bad  goobergunch   Aug-24-03 03:19 PM   #3 
  - It gets tiresome.....  virtualobserver   Aug-24-03 03:21 PM   #5 
  - It depends on what Kerry says...  Octafish   Aug-24-03 03:29 PM   #6 
  - You really think Kerry should engage in a dick measuring contest with Bush  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 03:32 PM   #8 
     - I've followed his career since 1972.  Octafish   Aug-24-03 08:40 PM   #78 
  - It's bad because people like Ann Coulter...  Composed Thinker   Aug-24-03 03:32 PM   #7 
  - Let me get this straight  legin   Aug-24-03 03:33 PM   #9 
  - Exactly. Swing voters will either say "Oh, I guess *'s stunt wasn't so  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 03:51 PM   #11 
  - Dupe  SayitAintSo   Aug-24-03 11:03 PM   #94 
  - I might have more sympathy if he announced in front of a replica of  Gloria   Aug-24-03 03:48 PM   #10 
  - His crew will be with him  molly   Aug-24-03 04:02 PM   #17 
     - Oh, so he'll have his multi-cultural props, eh?  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 04:05 PM   #20 
        - While I think the stunt might be imprudent ...  Pepperbelly   Aug-24-03 05:58 PM   #59 
        - His "multi-cultural props" ????  blm   Aug-25-03 08:50 AM   #106 
        - Disguting bigot-talk  sangh0   Aug-25-03 09:56 AM   #109 
  - It's not a far step from war posturing to war-mongering.  revcarol   Aug-24-03 03:54 PM   #12 
  - Dean also said he was misled  sangh0   Aug-25-03 10:29 AM   #115 
  - This is about the 4th thread started about this  molly   Aug-24-03 03:58 PM   #13 
  - Of course you do dear  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 04:01 PM   #16 
     - So who do you support?  Octafish   Aug-24-03 08:53 PM   #79 
        - SZJ is for Dean  sangh0   Aug-25-03 11:07 AM   #121 
  - Horrible, horrible move  KaraokeKarlton   Aug-24-03 03:58 PM   #14 
  - He has barely begun to fight  molly   Aug-24-03 04:04 PM   #19 
  - Yeah, and if this is him "fighting", then I'll pass  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 04:07 PM   #21 
  - no shit  KaraokeKarlton   Aug-24-03 04:47 PM   #35 
  - Presidential campaigns are about oneupmanship. Gimmicks, stunts etc.  oasis   Aug-24-03 04:12 PM   #23 
  - Oh please  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 04:19 PM   #25 
  - This pundit-in-training will just have to wait and see. BTW, many of those  oasis   Aug-24-03 04:24 PM   #27 
     - Guess what? I was (sort of) one of those people  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 04:29 PM   #29 
        - Kerry should have done an Apocalypse Now re-enactment.......  virtualobserver   Aug-24-03 04:32 PM   #30 
        - If security/defense is an issue in 2004, Kerry needs to demonstrate  oasis   Aug-24-03 04:50 PM   #36 
           - So using them for props the EXACT SAME WAY Bush did shows  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 05:26 PM   #41 
              - "exact same way" I doubt it. It will,however, be similar thus enabling  oasis   Aug-24-03 05:42 PM   #53 
  - You've got to be joking.  KaraokeKarlton   Aug-24-03 04:54 PM   #38 
  - Kerry will not have a "Mission Acomplished" banner in the background.  oasis   Aug-24-03 05:36 PM   #48 
     - "What's a bona-fide war hero to do?"  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 05:40 PM   #52 
     - Kerry's move diminishes Bush's "genuine battle commander" status  oasis   Aug-24-03 05:49 PM   #56 
        - Um, hello...he's mentioned it a gazillion times already  KaraokeKarlton   Aug-24-03 06:16 PM   #65 
           - "no one cares about any of it"? polls show that Americans do care  oasis   Aug-24-03 06:21 PM   #66 
              - Like I said..think what you want to think  KaraokeKarlton   Aug-24-03 07:50 PM   #72 
                 - Kerry also gets to separate himself from the rest of the declared  oasis   Aug-24-03 08:01 PM   #75 
                    - "no-dick pencil pushers"?  KaraokeKarlton   Aug-24-03 09:24 PM   #82 
                       - Kerry's challenge to the GOP machine: Bring 'em on  oasis   Aug-24-03 09:39 PM   #84 
                          - Well I think it's lame  KaraokeKarlton   Aug-24-03 09:56 PM   #87 
     - Believe what you want  KaraokeKarlton   Aug-24-03 06:05 PM   #63 
        - To not counter Rove and his Chimp would be "dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.  oasis   Aug-24-03 06:33 PM   #68 
           - Counter what exactly?  KaraokeKarlton   Aug-24-03 08:00 PM   #74 
              - Lieberman's going nowhere. Kerry's just gearing up. Dean, DK, Gep  oasis   Aug-24-03 09:36 PM   #83 
  - Will Glory days be playing in the background?  loyalsister   Aug-24-03 10:25 PM   #90 
     - Millions of Americans are impressed and proud of their armed services.  oasis   Aug-24-03 10:40 PM   #92 
        - I respect them  loyalsister   Aug-25-03 02:06 AM   #103 
           - Be honest. You don't respect them  sangh0   Aug-25-03 10:03 AM   #111 
              - It's propaganda  loyalsister   Aug-25-03 02:27 PM   #129 
                 - Be honest  sangh0   Aug-25-03 04:12 PM   #133 
  - yes, just looks like he doesn't have any original ideas  ima_sinnic   Aug-24-03 04:24 PM   #26 
  - BAD move- Letting The Junta define the campaign....  MiltonLeBerle   Aug-24-03 04:09 PM   #22 
  - The Kerry Campaign Should Fire Bob Shrum And Hire Me  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-24-03 04:17 PM   #24 
  - shrum is clueless  virtualobserver   Aug-24-03 04:28 PM   #28 
  - I agree  salin   Aug-24-03 05:33 PM   #47 
  - "in front of a group of Viet Nam vets"  MaineDem   Aug-24-03 05:40 PM   #51 
  - If Kerry wants a real media event.  Corgigal   Aug-24-03 04:33 PM   #31 
  - Kerry could have announced with Military Families Speak Out  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 04:36 PM   #32 
  - Could be briliant...  ilpostino   Aug-24-03 04:40 PM   #33 
  - The problem is, he won't admit he was wrong about the war  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 04:47 PM   #34 
  - The UN card  ilpostino   Aug-24-03 05:09 PM   #39 
  - Dean never said HE was mislead?  molly   Aug-24-03 06:10 PM   #64 
  - I Agree With Much Of What You Say  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-24-03 04:52 PM   #37 
  - ilpostino, i've quoted you over at toughenough04.blogspot.com  DJcairo   Aug-24-03 06:02 PM   #61 
     - Good site  ilpostino   Aug-25-03 10:41 AM   #120 
  - Is he going to wear a big belt buckle and a cowboy hat?  bandera   Aug-24-03 05:17 PM   #40 
  - I Don't Mind The Military Symbolism  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-24-03 05:29 PM   #42 
     - How does posing in front of a fucking battleship or on an aircraft carrier  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 05:32 PM   #45 
  - I think he could have chosen a better backdrop.  JanMichael   Aug-24-03 05:30 PM   #44 
  - Maybe he could ride the bomb ala Slim Pickens  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 05:33 PM   #46 
  - Kerry hits political slam dunk  DJcairo   Aug-24-03 05:39 PM   #50 
  - So he's going to contrast himself with Bush by doing almost exactly what  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 05:43 PM   #54 
     - oh please  DJcairo   Aug-24-03 05:47 PM   #55 
  - Parenthetically  ilpostino   Aug-24-03 05:49 PM   #57 
  - Kerry has pull with the military. This is a good thing.  oasis   Aug-24-03 06:00 PM   #60 
  - if he wants to use a ship for a backdrop ...  Pepperbelly   Aug-24-03 05:54 PM   #58 
  - Idiotic move  PurityOfEssence   Aug-24-03 06:04 PM   #62 
  - Great move....he's going straight after the fraud in chief  blm   Aug-24-03 06:22 PM   #67 
  - "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead"  oasis   Aug-24-03 06:38 PM   #69 
  - This is a great move by Kerry....  styersc   Aug-24-03 07:14 PM   #70 
  - Bad strategy  UnapologeticLiberal   Aug-24-03 07:59 PM   #73 
  - Learn the difference  DJcairo   Aug-24-03 08:07 PM   #76 
  - Mr Kerry should not tout his medals too much...  God_bush_n_cheney   Aug-24-03 08:21 PM   #77 
  - He earned the Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat "V" and ...  Octafish   Aug-24-03 09:16 PM   #80 
     - to anyone complaining about Kerry's pending event  Zech Marquis   Aug-24-03 09:50 PM   #86 
  - hits a nerve with Dean supporters  xequals   Aug-24-03 09:17 PM   #81 
  - "whatever dude mentality"?? You are too cruel sir.  oasis   Aug-24-03 09:47 PM   #85 
  - What I mean  xequals   Aug-24-03 10:00 PM   #88 
     - And I can't respect a "war hero" who gives Bush carte blanche in my  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 10:26 PM   #91 
        - Kerry did the right thing as he saw it.  Octafish   Aug-24-03 10:51 PM   #93 
        - So our soldiers dying for no good reason is good for the country?  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 11:03 PM   #95 
        - Dean wasn't in a position to take any position,  xequals   Aug-24-03 11:15 PM   #98 
        - Uh huh, sure  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 11:30 PM   #100 
        - People like you would have allowed Bush a REAL blank check.  blm   Aug-25-03 08:40 AM   #105 
  - More horseshit  SweetZombieJesus   Aug-24-03 10:23 PM   #89 
  - Did you read post 64 ?  molly   Aug-24-03 11:29 PM   #99 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-03 11:33 PM   #101 
        - OK - here is the Dean interview - the person you have  molly   Aug-25-03 10:39 AM   #119 
           - Dean gave Bush* a pass  sangh0   Aug-25-03 11:10 AM   #122 
  - Kerry scares the Dean supporters  sangh0   Aug-25-03 10:05 AM   #112 
  - I plan to be there - bold move, hope he pulls it off  SayitAintSo   Aug-24-03 11:05 PM   #96 
  - Yes show up in SC to support Kerry  DJcairo   Aug-24-03 11:36 PM   #102 
  - The idiot is a pathetic hasbeen  CWebster   Aug-25-03 06:36 AM   #104 
  - I agree.......this is what turned me off in the beginning....he should be  KoKo01   Aug-25-03 10:15 AM   #113 
  - Bad idea  DealsGapRider   Aug-25-03 09:06 AM   #107 
  - If Kerry wants to look strong, he should be doing what Dean is doing  Larkspur   Aug-25-03 09:57 AM   #110 
  - Kerry has strong progressive Democratic credentials  blm   Aug-25-03 10:26 AM   #114 
     - Besides that - Kerry has a job, Dean doesn't  molly   Aug-25-03 10:31 AM   #116 
     - When  CWebster   Aug-25-03 10:36 AM   #118 
     - Its too bad then  CWebster   Aug-25-03 10:34 AM   #117 
        - He doesn't HAVE to appear macho...  blm   Aug-25-03 11:15 AM   #123 
  - Kerry was in Vietnam?  killbotfactory   Aug-25-03 11:23 AM   #124 
  - Will he get another medal for the 6113 dead Iraqi civilians  bandera   Aug-25-03 11:34 AM   #125 
  - This country has been misled on a host of issues.  DJcairo   Aug-25-03 11:44 AM   #126 
     - Strong leader?  bandera   Aug-25-03 12:02 PM   #128 
        - Dean also said he was "misled"  sangh0   Aug-25-03 02:29 PM   #130 
           - Obviously taken out of context, if he really did say it  Larkspur   Aug-25-03 03:01 PM   #131 
           - He did say that Bush was misled by others.  blm   Aug-25-03 04:08 PM   #132 
           - The facts hurt  sangh0   Aug-25-03 04:13 PM   #134 
              - There seems to be something missing.  bandera   Aug-25-03 05:15 PM   #136 
           - A strawman argument.  bandera   Aug-25-03 05:01 PM   #135 
  - I thought he was announcing in IOWA  sinookas   Aug-25-03 05:25 PM   #137 
 

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