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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:12 PM
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25. Ok, let me rephrase that...
"Yes, why dont we legalize murder for serial killers, they are going to do it anyway"

My point is just because people are going to try to do something illegal is not a reason you should MAKE it legal.
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  -Should Illegal Immigrants Be Allowed To Obtain a Drivers License? The Nation  Aug-18-04 05:57 PM   #0 
  - first of all, you poll doesn't work  matcom   Aug-18-04 05:59 PM   #1 
  - They should be productive at home  Fescue4u   Aug-18-04 06:12 PM   #24 
  - the premise that they wont drive without drivers licences is stupid  Demonaut   Aug-18-04 08:41 PM   #108 
  - Not giving them a license is a security risk. Licensing involves photos  genius   Aug-19-04 12:19 AM   #138 
  - WTF does "time of terror" mean anyway.  bullimiami   Aug-19-04 02:06 AM   #145 
  - No. Nor should they recieve health care benefits or public education.  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 06:00 PM   #2 
  - I agree.  The Nation   Aug-18-04 06:01 PM   #4 
  - and you will be the FIRST to bitch  matcom   Aug-18-04 06:02 PM   #5 
  - "illegal immigrant" is a reich-wing term, people cannot be 'illegal'  DUreader   Aug-18-04 06:07 PM   # 
  - How about Criminal then?  Fescue4u   Aug-18-04 06:13 PM   # 
  - They are ILLEGAL Immigrants.  The Nation   Aug-18-04 06:13 PM   # 
  - I believe it's their "immigrant" status that's being called illegal.  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 06:17 PM   #36 
  - How about undocumented workers  depakote_kid   Aug-18-04 07:37 PM   #92 
  - Remember that when you are at Taco Bell next time  Katarina   Aug-18-04 06:28 PM   #54 
  - WHY are seasonal ag jobs paying so little?  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 06:34 PM   #58 
     - And like I asked  Katarina   Aug-18-04 06:39 PM   #63 
        - If we let them build our cars, they'd cost a lot less, too.  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 06:44 PM   #65 
        - I agree with you  alarimer   Aug-18-04 07:15 PM   #84 
  - Then stop eating. Thanks to them, there's dinner on your table.  genius   Aug-19-04 12:33 AM   #140 
     - So if agricultural workers were paid a decent wage, I'd have no food?  MercutioATC   Aug-19-04 12:57 AM   #143 
  - Yes  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:00 PM   #3 
  - Yes because they are going to drive anyway?  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:04 PM   #8 
  - decriminalize drug use and drug possession while you're at it.  radwriter0555   Aug-18-04 06:07 PM   #13 
  - PERFECT!!!!!  matcom   Aug-18-04 06:08 PM   #16 
  - Ok, let me rephrase that...  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:12 PM   #25 
     - Because murder is a crime  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:13 PM   #26 
     - driving without a license is illegal too.  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:16 PM   # 
     - and  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:17 PM   #33 
     - You don't think illegal immigration is a crime that affects other people?  Feanorcurufinwe   Aug-18-04 06:20 PM   #43 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-18-04 06:14 PM   #29 
  - well  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:09 PM   #19 
  - How about just deporting them? Why condone a criminal act?  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 06:20 PM   #44 
     - such simple answers!  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:21 PM   #47 
  - Absolutely not.  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:02 PM   #6 
  - ask away  matcom   Aug-18-04 06:03 PM   #7 
  - How about they come into the country LEGALLY?  The Nation   Aug-18-04 06:05 PM   #10 
  - how about we HELP them get off welfare!  matcom   Aug-18-04 06:06 PM   #12 
     - er illegal aliens can't get welfare.  radwriter0555   Aug-18-04 06:07 PM   #15 
        - don't think so?  matcom   Aug-18-04 06:08 PM   #18 
  - and they can get insurance, etc.  bossfish   Aug-18-04 06:08 PM   #17 
  - Let me respond to that...  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:10 PM   #20 
  - yes it is  matcom   Aug-18-04 06:11 PM   #23 
  - Oh I like that kind of reasoning  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:24 PM   #49 
     - again  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:25 PM   #52 
     - No, Im just trying to point out, sarcastically...  Endangered Specie   Aug-19-04 12:11 AM   #136 
     - Your arguments are a real treat to read for their fallacies  Cronus   Aug-18-04 08:20 PM   #100 
        - Ironic to critisize me on fallicies and make ad hominem attacks  Endangered Specie   Aug-19-04 12:13 AM   #137 
  - Other ways to get where they need to go? Where do you live?  KamaAina   Aug-18-04 06:33 PM   #57 
  - I agree. They are human beings.  Gregorian   Aug-18-04 06:14 PM   #27 
     - Agree G n/t  kymar57   Aug-18-04 06:52 PM   #72 
  - I voted yes.  brook   Aug-18-04 06:35 PM   #59 
     - I dont know why you are accusing me of being xenophobic...  Endangered Specie   Aug-19-04 12:07 AM   #134 
  - if they apply for citizenship  Chef_Ramen_Noodle   Aug-18-04 06:05 PM   #9 
  - ...then they are not "illegal"  stavka   Aug-18-04 08:18 PM   #99 
  - SURE! AND work permits so that they can work, EASILY with little  radwriter0555   Aug-18-04 06:06 PM   #11 
  - After I had to jump through hoops  canuckybee   Aug-18-04 06:07 PM   #14 
  - Why was your license so hard to get?  bossfish   Aug-18-04 06:10 PM   #21 
  - because I am not American  canuckybee   Aug-18-04 06:50 PM   #70 
  - How are you negatively affected  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:10 PM   #22 
     - Ever heard of a car crash?  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:15 PM   #30 
     - Yes  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:16 PM   #31 
        - I would prefer that have crashes at home  Fescue4u   Aug-18-04 06:17 PM   #35 
        - and I want a pony  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:18 PM   #39 
           - I agree  Fescue4u   Aug-18-04 06:38 PM   #61 
              - then tell me your plan for doing so  Dookus   Aug-18-04 07:01 PM   #77 
                 - Like anything else that is illegal  Fescue4u   Aug-18-04 08:47 PM   #112 
                    - Ok  Dookus   Aug-18-04 09:03 PM   #114 
                       - What about'm?  Fescue4u   Aug-18-04 10:45 PM   #124 
                          - I would argue it IS different  Dookus   Aug-18-04 10:51 PM   #127 
        - License and insuring them... YES  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:19 PM   #40 
           - I don't see  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:20 PM   #42 
              - The fact that they dont have citizenship and a SS number  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:21 PM   #46 
     - Would be an excellent way to change your identity  Fescue4u   Aug-18-04 06:16 PM   #32 
        - Where does it say that a driver's license must double as an ID?  KamaAina   Aug-18-04 06:29 PM   #55 
           - No where, but everywhere  Fescue4u   Aug-18-04 06:37 PM   # 
           - Sure you can. Any government-issued photo ID will work.  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 06:38 PM   #62 
           - No where, but everywhere  Fescue4u   Aug-18-04 06:37 PM   #60 
  - Yes, and they should be forced to get insurance too.  Demobrat   Aug-18-04 06:14 PM   #28 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Aug-18-04 06:17 PM   #34 
  - Dont give this guy a license.  Endangered Specie   Aug-18-04 06:19 PM   # 
  - Of course not.  Feanorcurufinwe   Aug-18-04 06:17 PM   #37 
  - Now THERE'S a plan!  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 06:21 PM   #45 
  - YES! Better They Learn To Drive BEFORE They Start Driving  AndyTiedye   Aug-18-04 06:18 PM   #38 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-18-04 06:19 PM   #41 
  - Is It "Freeper"-ish To Want the Law of the Land Enforced?  The Nation   Aug-18-04 06:24 PM   #48 
     - No  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:27 PM   #53 
        - I'm not saying that it could happen at once, but why encourage  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 06:32 PM   #56 
           - People  Dookus   Aug-18-04 06:54 PM   #73 
              - I don't feel that it makes us safer than simply enforcing the law.  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 06:57 PM   #74 
                 - I'm saying  Dookus   Aug-18-04 07:04 PM   #80 
                    - We agree on that.  MercutioATC   Aug-18-04 07:41 PM   #94 
  - Illegal immigrants are breaking the law by being here  0rganism   Aug-18-04 06:24 PM   #50 
  - YES.  FoeOfBush   Aug-18-04 06:25 PM   #51 
  - silly. DON'T try to inject REASON into this "debate"  matcom   Aug-18-04 06:42 PM   #64 
     - You're right. After reading all the highly reasoned arguments to the  FoeOfBush   Aug-18-04 06:47 PM   #67 
  - Respectful of the understandable array of opinion, I say yes.  pinto   Aug-18-04 06:46 PM   #66 
  - I live in CA too.  Demobrat   Aug-18-04 06:50 PM   #69 
     - You're way too sensible for the shrill racists posting in this thread  Cronus   Aug-18-04 08:29 PM   #102 
  - No.  ReaderSushi   Aug-18-04 06:49 PM   #68 
  - A solid majority of both GOP and Dem voters favor enforcing the border.  UdoKier   Aug-18-04 06:51 PM   #71 
  - This helps explain why we're stuck with Ahh-nuld as Governator  KamaAina   Aug-18-04 06:59 PM   #75 
  - No. Neither should tourists.  DrWeird   Aug-18-04 06:59 PM   #76 
  - NOT TRUE!!  matcom   Aug-18-04 07:03 PM   #78 
     - Look up.  DrWeird   Aug-18-04 07:07 PM   #81 
        - oh man. sorry  matcom   Aug-18-04 07:18 PM   #85 
           - Yeah, all the dumb racists piss me off too.  DrWeird   Aug-18-04 07:26 PM   #88 
  - This is a tough issue,  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 07:03 PM   #79 
  - Oh, P.S,  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 07:09 PM   #83 
  - It's no fun......bein' an illegal alien....  AntiCoup2k   Aug-18-04 07:09 PM   #82 
  - No, it isn't any fun.....  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 07:21 PM   #86 
  - When I first started working in this country,  rasputin1952   Aug-18-04 07:26 PM   #87 
  - How do you feel about needle exchanges?  DrWeird   Aug-18-04 07:28 PM   #89 
     - Well, needle exchanges is not the issue here,  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 07:42 PM   #95 
  - Total fucking scapegoating question..In Germany they probably ask if Jews  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-18-04 07:33 PM   #90 
  - First we steal their land and jobs, then persecute them for  bandera   Aug-18-04 07:36 PM   #91 
  - Especially on a Democratic board..this is why we are losing  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-18-04 07:39 PM   #93 
     - Thinly veiled racism in the name of "law & order".  bandera   Aug-18-04 07:57 PM   #97 
     - Wait a minute,  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 08:02 PM   #98 
        - Is this sarcasm or anecdotal information?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Aug-18-04 08:27 PM   #101 
        - Too bad you are living in an unreal world  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 09:00 PM   #113 
           - LOL  Dookus   Aug-18-04 09:05 PM   #115 
              - Okay,I tell you what -  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 09:25 PM   #118 
        - Gosh! And, here I thought those people picking fruit were fruitpickers.  bandera   Aug-19-04 12:30 AM   #139 
  - So, if you as an American go to another country  depakote_kid   Aug-18-04 07:48 PM   #96 
  - It's really about racism and xenophobia, but you're right as well  Cronus   Aug-18-04 08:35 PM   #103 
  - I have to get a visa to visit another country!  napi21   Aug-18-04 08:36 PM   #104 
     - Answer: CHEAP LABOR  Osama_Bin_Winnin   Aug-18-04 08:38 PM   #106 
     - Do you know how difficult it is for a Mexican to get a visa  depakote_kid   Aug-18-04 09:53 PM   #120 
  - No but they shoul be required to carry auto insurance anyway  Osama_Bin_Winnin   Aug-18-04 08:37 PM   #105 
  - You can't get insurance  Dookus   Aug-18-04 08:43 PM   #109 
  - How will all of Bushies help get to the WH???  gatlingforme   Aug-18-04 08:38 PM   #107 
  - Yes.  Lefty Pragmatist   Aug-18-04 08:44 PM   #110 
  - This Thread Underscores That The American Working Class, And Immigrants  loindelrio   Aug-18-04 08:46 PM   #111 
  - Absolutely.  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 09:16 PM   #117 
  - With all due respect... are you people nuts? These are unrelated issues!  Bucky   Aug-18-04 09:11 PM   #116 
  - Oh Baloney  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 09:33 PM   #119 
     - You are mistaken  Dookus   Aug-18-04 09:59 PM   #121 
  - Oh, and here's one last thing for you to think about,  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 10:39 PM   #122 
  - so we shouldn't discuss ANY  Dookus   Aug-18-04 10:44 PM   #123 
  - I didn't say you couldn't discuss  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 10:54 PM   #129 
  - For your information,  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 10:48 PM   #126 
     - sorry  Dookus   Aug-18-04 10:53 PM   #128 
     - Mexico rates the third wealthiest in the world as far as personal wealth  allalone   Aug-19-04 03:17 AM   #146 
  - I voted YES but I have to add one condition  slackmaster   Aug-18-04 10:47 PM   #125 
  - Then, clearly, you did not read what I wrote.  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-18-04 11:24 PM   #131 
  - a really good idea  allalone   Aug-19-04 03:18 AM   #147 
  - People...  stldemocrat   Aug-18-04 11:21 PM   #130 
  - Yes.  Bridget Burke   Aug-18-04 11:57 PM   #132 
  - I'm really torn on this question...  T Town Jake   Aug-19-04 12:05 AM   #133 
  - Oh, one more thing,  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-19-04 12:10 AM   #135 
  - Now I know why people of conscience are leaving the Democratic Party  genius   Aug-19-04 12:34 AM   #141 
  - Forcing all Americans to have drivers licenses is unconstitutional  Swamp_Rat   Aug-19-04 12:46 AM   #142 
  - Yes, they should be ashamed  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-19-04 01:57 AM   #144 
     - Que? Estas hablando a m?  Swamp_Rat   Aug-19-04 03:53 AM   #149 
  - did I get zapped over to a freeper board?  allalone   Aug-19-04 03:26 AM   #148 
     - You still don't get it !!  Marjorie Grisak   Aug-19-04 04:24 AM   #150 
 

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