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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-14-04 11:05 PM
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23. Win the battle, lose the war
Like I said, if you are arguing the issues with your relative, that's one thing. I'm not even interested in having that argument with you because that's not my point. Your points about insurance and health care are valid.

All I'm saying is that for the purposes of this election, it's not a helpful argument to make. And for the purposes of getting SOMETHING helpful to Americans, it's not a useful argument to make. You could say until we get corporate farms out of the food business, people will go hungry. Does that mean we stop the food stamps program? Don't keep people from getting help they need now by putting up ideological roadblocks.
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  -Got into an argument with a relative just now Cleita  Aug-14-04 10:18 PM   #0 
  - Hmmm  bluestateguy   Aug-14-04 10:25 PM   #1 
  - FDR adopted most of Norman Thomas' 1932 socialist platform.  MikeG   Aug-14-04 10:27 PM   #5 
  - Yes, you have it right there.  Cleita   Aug-14-04 10:27 PM   #6 
  - Us 'socialist' countries, at least in the northern hemisphere...  TrustingDog   Aug-14-04 10:33 PM   #10 
  - Oh you evil dirty commie!!!!  greatauntoftriplets   Aug-14-04 10:25 PM   #2 
  - Thanks!  Cleita   Aug-14-04 10:44 PM   #15 
     - You're welcome!  greatauntoftriplets   Aug-14-04 10:51 PM   #19 
  - I WILL KICK HER ASS CLEITA  Skittles   Aug-14-04 10:26 PM   #3 
  - Anytime.  Cleita   Aug-14-04 10:29 PM   #8 
  - They once called Medicare socialized medicine.  MikeG   Aug-14-04 10:26 PM   #4 
  - What's so weird is that she's not a Republican.  Cleita   Aug-14-04 10:29 PM   #7 
  - If her husband belongs to a union..  Caliphoto   Aug-15-04 02:33 AM   #31 
  - To them, a stuffed platypus is socialist  JCCyC   Aug-15-04 11:35 PM   #45 
  - It's all a cover for selfishness and greed...  gmoney   Aug-14-04 10:30 PM   #9 
  - That's exactly it.  Cleita   Aug-14-04 10:34 PM   #11 
     - And therein lies the problem  nemdaille   Aug-14-04 10:49 PM   #18 
        - Very perceptive -- and wise. nt  IdaBriggs   Aug-17-04 07:10 AM   #54 
  - Who's suggesting socialized medicine?  sandnsea   Aug-14-04 10:34 PM   #12 
  - I'm too angry to argue this with you right now.  Cleita   Aug-14-04 10:38 PM   #14 
  - Win the battle, lose the war  sandnsea   Aug-14-04 11:05 PM   #23 
  - You damned well couldn't buy any if you were actually sick  eridani   Aug-17-04 01:26 AM   #51 
  - EXACTLY, Kerry hasn't said anything about "socialized medicine"  Hippo_Tron   Aug-17-04 01:31 AM   #52 
  - Oh....the dumb and blind get dumber and more blind...  Tight_rope   Aug-14-04 10:35 PM   #13 
  - Let me guess. Her "source" was Lush Rumballs?  Kanary   Aug-14-04 10:47 PM   #16 
  - Yes, Kanary and I really did need those hugs.  Cleita   Aug-14-04 10:49 PM   #17 
     - Agreed -- We *ALL* are needing hugs!  Kanary   Aug-14-04 10:54 PM   #20 
  - Beating the dead horses of Communism and Socialism is a popular button..  Jade Fox   Aug-14-04 10:55 PM   #21 
  - I won't even go into what she said about illegals from across  Cleita   Aug-14-04 11:01 PM   #22 
  - Just let her know it's not a problem, because Castro has offered to train  Kanary   Aug-14-04 11:12 PM   #25 
  - What they're doing is "shifting the debate" :  Mike Niendorff   Aug-15-04 12:27 AM   #27 
  - If it's any consolation  prolesunited   Aug-14-04 11:11 PM   #24 
  - Thanks all. You made me feel better!  Cleita   Aug-14-04 11:30 PM   #26 
  - Actually most single payer systems (like Canada's) are  dorktv   Aug-15-04 12:41 AM   #28 
  - Thanks I will definitely try to find a copy of that book.  Cleita   Aug-15-04 11:41 AM   #32 
     - you are welcomed. Good luck!  dorktv   Aug-17-04 01:39 AM   #53 
  - Tell your friends that capitalism would work better if sickness weren't...  AP   Aug-15-04 01:33 AM   #29 
  - My friend in Belgium says their system is just fine...  Caliphoto   Aug-15-04 02:32 AM   #30 
  - Of course it is.  Cleita   Aug-15-04 11:42 AM   #33 
  - She'd better not be too complacent  skygazer   Aug-15-04 11:51 AM   #34 
  - Socialism stinks but...  BlackJack8324   Aug-15-04 03:48 PM   #35 
  - They always freak out over the idea of "rationed healthcare"  knitter4democracy   Aug-15-04 05:58 PM   #36 
  - It's good that doctors are getting on board with this  Cleita   Aug-15-04 07:32 PM   #38 
     - Oh, he will!  knitter4democracy   Aug-16-04 04:06 PM   #48 
        - Is he familiar with this organization,  Cleita   Aug-16-04 04:17 PM   #49 
           - He's a member! Thanks! nt  knitter4democracy   Aug-16-04 05:33 PM   #50 
  - With some consideration  Green Lantern   Aug-15-04 07:26 PM   #37 
  - What it is, is the insurance and health care lobbyists.  Cleita   Aug-15-04 07:34 PM   #39 
     - I know  Green Lantern   Aug-15-04 09:20 PM   #40 
  - Localized Versus National?  The Straight Story   Aug-15-04 10:12 PM   #41 
  - Welcome to DU!  Cleita   Aug-15-04 10:24 PM   #42 
     - Health Care  The Straight Story   Aug-15-04 11:32 PM   #44 
        - To tell the truth, it would be nice to consider states as  Cleita   Aug-15-04 11:39 PM   #46 
  - They always call it socialized medicine. It doesn't have to be that  Sugarbleus   Aug-15-04 10:39 PM   #43 
  - shove this up her old wazoo  kodi   Aug-16-04 12:11 AM   #47 
  - My mother would rather pay to obliterate all those bad countries  neebob   Aug-17-04 07:28 AM   #55 

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