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Sat Aug-07-04 07:28 PM
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That's also why I think the second amendment is important. I'm a big leftie in most other ways.
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| -I'm a leftie. Here is my take on the second amendment |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:19 PM |
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I say |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:24 PM |
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Only if your named Entergy. Give me your take, sir. |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:29 PM |
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The only honest answer is |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:37 PM |
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I think that the essence is one of ownership, of securing property |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:44 PM |
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well |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:48 PM |
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What I THINK it may have been for |
Barret |
Aug-07-04 08:26 PM |
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a bunch of guys with AK-47s and RPGs |
BlueCollar |
Aug-07-04 03:30 PM |
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they've defeated the US military? |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:32 PM |
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more to the point |
BlueCollar |
Aug-07-04 03:40 PM |
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true |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:43 PM |
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They ARE trying as hard as they can, and stay within the pale of... |
Crachet2004 |
Aug-07-04 11:01 PM |
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Insurgents didn't win many battles in Vietnam, nor in Afghanistan... |
gtrump |
Aug-08-04 09:10 AM |
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in Afghanistan |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:48 PM |
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again |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:53 PM |
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Not defeated, but are still resisting effectively. |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:30 PM |
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Viet Nam |
jukes |
Aug-08-04 09:41 PM |
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Exactly right. I think a lot of Americans are more "shocked and awed", |
Crachet2004 |
Aug-07-04 10:48 PM |
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The Mahdi Army seems to be doing pretty well against our army. |
Shoeempress |
Aug-07-04 03:32 PM |
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You're making assumptions that may be wrong. |
gsh999 |
Aug-07-04 03:33 PM |
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well I think |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:41 PM |
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As far as banding together to fight the government ... |
gsh999 |
Aug-07-04 03:55 PM |
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You should tell the military to turn in their handguns then |
Columbia |
Aug-08-04 11:34 AM |
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Seriously, study the history of colonial and early America. |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:34 PM |
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They're doing just fine w/o tanks and MOABs in Mosul, aren't they? |
BiggJawn |
Aug-07-04 04:24 PM |
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again |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 04:36 PM |
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We would also be defeated though. |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:36 PM |
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The scenario you just mentioned is that of "George Washingtons Dream". |
Crachet2004 |
Aug-07-04 11:11 PM |
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Well, I suppose if the PNACer's wanted to stand on a pile of skulls... |
BiggJawn |
Aug-07-04 11:17 PM |
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What about Iraq? |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:28 PM |
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Which does the US Military defend -- "the government" or the Constitution? |
beam_me_up |
Aug-07-04 05:42 PM |
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the military is sworn to two things. |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 02:42 AM |
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"The people in the military . . . |
beam_me_up |
Aug-08-04 11:28 AM |
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They can't disclose anything like that. |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 04:00 PM |
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You've apparently.. |
deseo |
Aug-07-04 05:54 PM |
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No kidding |
TransitJohn |
Aug-08-04 09:32 AM |
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I think a better question is |
FeebMaster |
Aug-08-04 12:26 PM |
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Waste him |
TransitJohn |
Aug-08-04 03:24 PM |
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Right. An insurgency area. |
FeebMaster |
Aug-08-04 03:35 PM |
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i don't know |
jukes |
Aug-08-04 09:35 PM |
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Ahem... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 03:29 PM |
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Did Rush really mention DU by name? |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:37 PM |
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Yup, he did.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 03:40 PM |
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there is a local hunter club that works locally to save open lands |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:54 PM |
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Yes, we all know that... |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-08-04 10:19 AM |
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Jeepers... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-08-04 01:14 PM |
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I say those little popguns aren't going to do you a damned bit of good |
Warpy |
Aug-07-04 03:29 PM |
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You know the government won't launch planes and missiles against it's |
Shoeempress |
Aug-07-04 03:34 PM |
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welcome to DU |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:20 PM |
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Tell it to Iraq |
MUSTANG_2004 |
Aug-07-04 03:37 PM |
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Tell that to the Viet Cong. |
gsh999 |
Aug-07-04 03:59 PM |
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Do you believe |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 04:01 PM |
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And left with the largest parking lot in the world. |
gsh999 |
Aug-07-04 04:14 PM |
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and the rebels would want to keep the USA from becoming a |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:16 PM |
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I agree |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 04:21 PM |
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Russia extended their nuclear umbrella over them, so no, I don't. |
Crachet2004 |
Aug-07-04 11:17 PM |
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Seems kinda violent.... |
SimpleTrend |
Aug-07-04 03:39 PM |
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Worth noting that the Second Amendment |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 03:42 PM |
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Quotes from our founding fathers |
Elwood P Dowd |
Aug-07-04 03:54 PM |
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Tommy J |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:06 PM |
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George Mason...who voted against the Constitution.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 04:12 PM |
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That's a misleading story, MrBenchley |
robcon |
Aug-07-04 06:41 PM |
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Mason is the right wing's patron saint |
MrBenchley |
Aug-08-04 08:50 AM |
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"When the citizens fear their government, you have tyranny." |
Mr_Spock |
Aug-08-04 11:53 AM |
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interesting point |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:58 PM |
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Not unless flintlocks make a comeback.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 04:12 PM |
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flintlocks? |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:18 PM |
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Thanks for the link. |
SimpleTrend |
Aug-07-04 04:23 PM |
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both a free state and a regime bear arms |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:32 PM |
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Interesting perspective from the ACLU |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:39 PM |
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And backed up by every court decision |
MrBenchley |
Aug-08-04 08:51 AM |
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The Ultimate Weapon |
J Williams |
Aug-07-04 03:50 PM |
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agreed |
BlueCollar |
Aug-07-04 04:03 PM |
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great post |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:08 PM |
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Here is my take. |
Lori Price CLG |
Aug-07-04 04:07 PM |
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yikes! That Southwell article scares me! I like the legitgov site |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:14 PM |
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"..a well regulated milita." |
bandera |
Aug-07-04 04:20 PM |
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Well, yes. It does. |
neverborn |
Aug-07-04 04:23 PM |
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Do you consider some goober with a can of beer and a rifle |
bandera |
Aug-07-04 07:08 PM |
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"Capable of acting in concert for the common defense" |
Barret |
Aug-07-04 10:07 PM |
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I am a liberal |
Moonbeam_Starlight |
Aug-07-04 05:36 PM |
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I think there is a contradiction among some people |
robcon |
Aug-07-04 06:51 PM |
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Agree with you mdmc |
OnionPatch |
Aug-07-04 07:28 PM |
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cool-io |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 07:47 PM |
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Do you seriously think you could take the US army |
Alex146 |
Aug-07-04 07:31 PM |
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One does not overthrow weaponry. |
ronabop |
Aug-08-04 02:47 AM |
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Nope |
Shiru |
Aug-07-04 10:09 PM |
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Sounds like you have a good understanding of the 2nd Amendment |
BullGooseLoony |
Aug-07-04 10:26 PM |
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me? |
mdmc |
Aug-08-04 09:29 PM |
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US v. Miller provides historical background on the second amendment |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 02:02 AM |
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I say that there is NO reason |
CaTeacher |
Aug-08-04 02:18 AM |
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here is a couple of reasons |
mdmc |
Aug-08-04 09:32 PM |
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I respectfully disagree. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 02:20 AM |
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Thank you! |
CaTeacher |
Aug-08-04 02:24 AM |
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Yes! Yes! Yes! |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 02:29 AM |
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In todays world |
Speed8098 |
Aug-08-04 09:40 AM |
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See also the Federalist Papers |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 02:30 AM |
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Things have changed quite a bit since the |
CaTeacher |
Aug-08-04 02:35 AM |
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Right you are. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 02:41 AM |
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Have governments been less likely to slaughter people? |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 02:53 AM |
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I would advise you to look at Kerry's Senate |
CaTeacher |
Aug-08-04 03:39 AM |
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There's Nothing Accidental....... |
Paladin |
Aug-08-04 10:10 AM |
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You're just upset that the Republicans pass all the |
FeebMaster |
Aug-08-04 12:28 PM |
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One might check out the Democratic party platform and its |
hansberrym |
Aug-09-04 12:51 AM |
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I agree |
Columbia |
Aug-08-04 03:00 AM |
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Do you also have an objection to the 14th Amendment? |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 03:18 AM |
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When they take away our guns |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 02:58 AM |
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"When guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns" |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 03:07 AM |
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I am a social libertarian. |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 03:11 AM |
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The second amendment ahs never been used to dney gun legislation |
Gore1FL |
Aug-08-04 03:32 AM |
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What is going on here? |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 03:39 AM |
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This isn't technically a site just for liberals. |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 04:21 AM |
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I hope so. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 04:41 AM |
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I bet that "Che" guy had a gun. |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-08-04 10:16 AM |
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Che |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 01:05 PM |
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Killing is not always wrong |
Columbia |
Aug-08-04 11:36 AM |
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I wish I would live to see the day |
OnionPatch |
Aug-08-04 12:31 PM |
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My thoughts. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 11:54 PM |
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I see what you're saying |
OnionPatch |
Aug-09-04 12:36 AM |
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I hear you. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-09-04 12:58 AM |
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