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Sat Aug-07-04 05:36 PM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 51. We would also be defeated though. |
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The US cannot nuke other countries at will. The reason is that we're not the only country that has nukes. I guarantee you, you would not want to see what would happen when the UN condemns the US and imposes economic sanctions. You would not want to see the rest of the world organizing a military alliance against our country. We could not "win" that war.
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| -I'm a leftie. Here is my take on the second amendment |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:19 PM |
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I say |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:24 PM |
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Only if your named Entergy. Give me your take, sir. |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:29 PM |
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The only honest answer is |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:37 PM |
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I think that the essence is one of ownership, of securing property |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:44 PM |
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well |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:48 PM |
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What I THINK it may have been for |
Barret |
Aug-07-04 08:26 PM |
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a bunch of guys with AK-47s and RPGs |
BlueCollar |
Aug-07-04 03:30 PM |
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they've defeated the US military? |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:32 PM |
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more to the point |
BlueCollar |
Aug-07-04 03:40 PM |
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true |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:43 PM |
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They ARE trying as hard as they can, and stay within the pale of... |
Crachet2004 |
Aug-07-04 11:01 PM |
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Insurgents didn't win many battles in Vietnam, nor in Afghanistan... |
gtrump |
Aug-08-04 09:10 AM |
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in Afghanistan |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:48 PM |
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again |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:53 PM |
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Not defeated, but are still resisting effectively. |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:30 PM |
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Viet Nam |
jukes |
Aug-08-04 09:41 PM |
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Exactly right. I think a lot of Americans are more "shocked and awed", |
Crachet2004 |
Aug-07-04 10:48 PM |
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The Mahdi Army seems to be doing pretty well against our army. |
Shoeempress |
Aug-07-04 03:32 PM |
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You're making assumptions that may be wrong. |
gsh999 |
Aug-07-04 03:33 PM |
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well I think |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 03:41 PM |
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As far as banding together to fight the government ... |
gsh999 |
Aug-07-04 03:55 PM |
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You should tell the military to turn in their handguns then |
Columbia |
Aug-08-04 11:34 AM |
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Seriously, study the history of colonial and early America. |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:34 PM |
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They're doing just fine w/o tanks and MOABs in Mosul, aren't they? |
BiggJawn |
Aug-07-04 04:24 PM |
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again |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 04:36 PM |
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We would also be defeated though. |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:36 PM |
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The scenario you just mentioned is that of "George Washingtons Dream". |
Crachet2004 |
Aug-07-04 11:11 PM |
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Well, I suppose if the PNACer's wanted to stand on a pile of skulls... |
BiggJawn |
Aug-07-04 11:17 PM |
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What about Iraq? |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:28 PM |
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Which does the US Military defend -- "the government" or the Constitution? |
beam_me_up |
Aug-07-04 05:42 PM |
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the military is sworn to two things. |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 02:42 AM |
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"The people in the military . . . |
beam_me_up |
Aug-08-04 11:28 AM |
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They can't disclose anything like that. |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 04:00 PM |
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You've apparently.. |
deseo |
Aug-07-04 05:54 PM |
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No kidding |
TransitJohn |
Aug-08-04 09:32 AM |
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I think a better question is |
FeebMaster |
Aug-08-04 12:26 PM |
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Waste him |
TransitJohn |
Aug-08-04 03:24 PM |
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Right. An insurgency area. |
FeebMaster |
Aug-08-04 03:35 PM |
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i don't know |
jukes |
Aug-08-04 09:35 PM |
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Ahem... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 03:29 PM |
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Did Rush really mention DU by name? |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:37 PM |
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Yup, he did.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 03:40 PM |
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there is a local hunter club that works locally to save open lands |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:54 PM |
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Yes, we all know that... |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-08-04 10:19 AM |
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Jeepers... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-08-04 01:14 PM |
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I say those little popguns aren't going to do you a damned bit of good |
Warpy |
Aug-07-04 03:29 PM |
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You know the government won't launch planes and missiles against it's |
Shoeempress |
Aug-07-04 03:34 PM |
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welcome to DU |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:20 PM |
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Tell it to Iraq |
MUSTANG_2004 |
Aug-07-04 03:37 PM |
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Tell that to the Viet Cong. |
gsh999 |
Aug-07-04 03:59 PM |
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Do you believe |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 04:01 PM |
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And left with the largest parking lot in the world. |
gsh999 |
Aug-07-04 04:14 PM |
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and the rebels would want to keep the USA from becoming a |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:16 PM |
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I agree |
Dookus |
Aug-07-04 04:21 PM |
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Russia extended their nuclear umbrella over them, so no, I don't. |
Crachet2004 |
Aug-07-04 11:17 PM |
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Seems kinda violent.... |
SimpleTrend |
Aug-07-04 03:39 PM |
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Worth noting that the Second Amendment |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 03:42 PM |
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Quotes from our founding fathers |
Elwood P Dowd |
Aug-07-04 03:54 PM |
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Tommy J |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:06 PM |
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George Mason...who voted against the Constitution.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 04:12 PM |
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That's a misleading story, MrBenchley |
robcon |
Aug-07-04 06:41 PM |
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Mason is the right wing's patron saint |
MrBenchley |
Aug-08-04 08:50 AM |
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"When the citizens fear their government, you have tyranny." |
Mr_Spock |
Aug-08-04 11:53 AM |
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interesting point |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 03:58 PM |
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Not unless flintlocks make a comeback.... |
MrBenchley |
Aug-07-04 04:12 PM |
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flintlocks? |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:18 PM |
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Thanks for the link. |
SimpleTrend |
Aug-07-04 04:23 PM |
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both a free state and a regime bear arms |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:32 PM |
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Interesting perspective from the ACLU |
PeaceForever |
Aug-07-04 05:39 PM |
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And backed up by every court decision |
MrBenchley |
Aug-08-04 08:51 AM |
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The Ultimate Weapon |
J Williams |
Aug-07-04 03:50 PM |
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agreed |
BlueCollar |
Aug-07-04 04:03 PM |
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great post |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:08 PM |
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Here is my take. |
Lori Price CLG |
Aug-07-04 04:07 PM |
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yikes! That Southwell article scares me! I like the legitgov site |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 04:14 PM |
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"..a well regulated milita." |
bandera |
Aug-07-04 04:20 PM |
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Well, yes. It does. |
neverborn |
Aug-07-04 04:23 PM |
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Do you consider some goober with a can of beer and a rifle |
bandera |
Aug-07-04 07:08 PM |
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"Capable of acting in concert for the common defense" |
Barret |
Aug-07-04 10:07 PM |
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I am a liberal |
Moonbeam_Starlight |
Aug-07-04 05:36 PM |
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I think there is a contradiction among some people |
robcon |
Aug-07-04 06:51 PM |
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Agree with you mdmc |
OnionPatch |
Aug-07-04 07:28 PM |
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cool-io |
mdmc |
Aug-07-04 07:47 PM |
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Do you seriously think you could take the US army |
Alex146 |
Aug-07-04 07:31 PM |
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One does not overthrow weaponry. |
ronabop |
Aug-08-04 02:47 AM |
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Nope |
Shiru |
Aug-07-04 10:09 PM |
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Sounds like you have a good understanding of the 2nd Amendment |
BullGooseLoony |
Aug-07-04 10:26 PM |
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me? |
mdmc |
Aug-08-04 09:29 PM |
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US v. Miller provides historical background on the second amendment |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 02:02 AM |
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I say that there is NO reason |
CaTeacher |
Aug-08-04 02:18 AM |
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here is a couple of reasons |
mdmc |
Aug-08-04 09:32 PM |
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I respectfully disagree. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 02:20 AM |
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Thank you! |
CaTeacher |
Aug-08-04 02:24 AM |
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Yes! Yes! Yes! |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 02:29 AM |
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In todays world |
Speed8098 |
Aug-08-04 09:40 AM |
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See also the Federalist Papers |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 02:30 AM |
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Things have changed quite a bit since the |
CaTeacher |
Aug-08-04 02:35 AM |
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Right you are. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 02:41 AM |
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Have governments been less likely to slaughter people? |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 02:53 AM |
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I would advise you to look at Kerry's Senate |
CaTeacher |
Aug-08-04 03:39 AM |
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There's Nothing Accidental....... |
Paladin |
Aug-08-04 10:10 AM |
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You're just upset that the Republicans pass all the |
FeebMaster |
Aug-08-04 12:28 PM |
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One might check out the Democratic party platform and its |
hansberrym |
Aug-09-04 12:51 AM |
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I agree |
Columbia |
Aug-08-04 03:00 AM |
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Do you also have an objection to the 14th Amendment? |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 03:18 AM |
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When they take away our guns |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 02:58 AM |
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"When guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns" |
hansberrym |
Aug-08-04 03:07 AM |
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I am a social libertarian. |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 03:11 AM |
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The second amendment ahs never been used to dney gun legislation |
Gore1FL |
Aug-08-04 03:32 AM |
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What is going on here? |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 03:39 AM |
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This isn't technically a site just for liberals. |
Sirveri |
Aug-08-04 04:21 AM |
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I hope so. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 04:41 AM |
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I bet that "Che" guy had a gun. |
LoZoccolo |
Aug-08-04 10:16 AM |
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Che |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 01:05 PM |
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Killing is not always wrong |
Columbia |
Aug-08-04 11:36 AM |
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I wish I would live to see the day |
OnionPatch |
Aug-08-04 12:31 PM |
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My thoughts. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-08-04 11:54 PM |
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I see what you're saying |
OnionPatch |
Aug-09-04 12:36 AM |
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I hear you. |
ProfLefty |
Aug-09-04 12:58 AM |
#119 |