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4. Only if your named Entergy. Give me your take, sir.
What does the 2nd Amendment mean to you? What do you think it meant when it was created?

My definition kinda does include the right to own nukes, and that is just too far. I should tone it down.
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  -I'm a leftie. Here is my take on the second amendment mdmc  Aug-07-04 03:19 PM   #0 
  - I say  Dookus   Aug-07-04 03:24 PM   #1 
  - Only if your named Entergy. Give me your take, sir.  mdmc   Aug-07-04 03:29 PM   #4 
  - The only honest answer is  Dookus   Aug-07-04 03:37 PM   #11 
     - I think that the essence is one of ownership, of securing property  mdmc   Aug-07-04 03:44 PM   #19 
        - well  Dookus   Aug-07-04 03:48 PM   #20 
           - What I THINK it may have been for  Barret   Aug-07-04 08:26 PM   #62 
  - a bunch of guys with AK-47s and RPGs  BlueCollar   Aug-07-04 03:30 PM   #5 
  - they've defeated the US military?  Dookus   Aug-07-04 03:32 PM   #7 
  - more to the point  BlueCollar   Aug-07-04 03:40 PM   #15 
  - true  Dookus   Aug-07-04 03:43 PM   #18 
     - They ARE trying as hard as they can, and stay within the pale of...  Crachet2004   Aug-07-04 11:01 PM   #67 
     - Insurgents didn't win many battles in Vietnam, nor in Afghanistan...  gtrump   Aug-08-04 09:10 AM   #94 
  - in Afghanistan  mdmc   Aug-07-04 03:48 PM   #21 
  - again  Dookus   Aug-07-04 03:53 PM   #23 
  - Not defeated, but are still resisting effectively.  PeaceForever   Aug-07-04 05:30 PM   #49 
  - Viet Nam  jukes   Aug-08-04 09:41 PM   #115 
  - Exactly right. I think a lot of Americans are more "shocked and awed",  Crachet2004   Aug-07-04 10:48 PM   #66 
  - The Mahdi Army seems to be doing pretty well against our army.  Shoeempress   Aug-07-04 03:32 PM   #6 
  - You're making assumptions that may be wrong.  gsh999   Aug-07-04 03:33 PM   #8 
  - well I think  Dookus   Aug-07-04 03:41 PM   #16 
     - As far as banding together to fight the government ...  gsh999   Aug-07-04 03:55 PM   #26 
     - You should tell the military to turn in their handguns then  Columbia   Aug-08-04 11:34 AM   #101 
     - Seriously, study the history of colonial and early America.  PeaceForever   Aug-07-04 05:34 PM   #50 
  - They're doing just fine w/o tanks and MOABs in Mosul, aren't they?  BiggJawn   Aug-07-04 04:24 PM   #45 
  - again  Dookus   Aug-07-04 04:36 PM   #47 
     - We would also be defeated though.  PeaceForever   Aug-07-04 05:36 PM   #51 
     - The scenario you just mentioned is that of "George Washingtons Dream".  Crachet2004   Aug-07-04 11:11 PM   #68 
     - Well, I suppose if the PNACer's wanted to stand on a pile of skulls...  BiggJawn   Aug-07-04 11:17 PM   #70 
  - What about Iraq?  PeaceForever   Aug-07-04 05:28 PM   #48 
  - Which does the US Military defend -- "the government" or the Constitution?  beam_me_up   Aug-07-04 05:42 PM   #54 
  - the military is sworn to two things.  Sirveri   Aug-08-04 02:42 AM   #79 
     - "The people in the military . . .  beam_me_up   Aug-08-04 11:28 AM   #100 
        - They can't disclose anything like that.  Sirveri   Aug-08-04 04:00 PM   #111 
  - You've apparently..  deseo   Aug-07-04 05:54 PM   #55 
  - No kidding  TransitJohn   Aug-08-04 09:32 AM   #95 
  - I think a better question is  FeebMaster   Aug-08-04 12:26 PM   #104 
     - Waste him  TransitJohn   Aug-08-04 03:24 PM   #109 
        - Right. An insurgency area.  FeebMaster   Aug-08-04 03:35 PM   #110 
  - i don't know  jukes   Aug-08-04 09:35 PM   #114 
  - Ahem...  MrBenchley   Aug-07-04 03:29 PM   #2 
  - Did Rush really mention DU by name?  mdmc   Aug-07-04 03:37 PM   #12 
  - Yup, he did....  MrBenchley   Aug-07-04 03:40 PM   #14 
     - there is a local hunter club that works locally to save open lands  mdmc   Aug-07-04 03:54 PM   #25 
  - Yes, we all know that...  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-04 10:19 AM   #99 
     - Jeepers...  MrBenchley   Aug-08-04 01:14 PM   #108 
  - I say those little popguns aren't going to do you a damned bit of good  Warpy   Aug-07-04 03:29 PM   #3 
  - You know the government won't launch planes and missiles against it's  Shoeempress   Aug-07-04 03:34 PM   #9 
  - welcome to DU  mdmc   Aug-07-04 04:20 PM   #41 
  - Tell it to Iraq  MUSTANG_2004   Aug-07-04 03:37 PM   #10 
  - Tell that to the Viet Cong.  gsh999   Aug-07-04 03:59 PM   #28 
     - Do you believe  Dookus   Aug-07-04 04:01 PM   #29 
        - And left with the largest parking lot in the world.  gsh999   Aug-07-04 04:14 PM   #36 
        - and the rebels would want to keep the USA from becoming a  mdmc   Aug-07-04 04:16 PM   #38 
        - I agree  Dookus   Aug-07-04 04:21 PM   #42 
        - Russia extended their nuclear umbrella over them, so no, I don't.  Crachet2004   Aug-07-04 11:17 PM   #69 
  - Seems kinda violent....  SimpleTrend   Aug-07-04 03:39 PM   #13 
  - Worth noting that the Second Amendment  MrBenchley   Aug-07-04 03:42 PM   #17 
     - Quotes from our founding fathers  Elwood P Dowd   Aug-07-04 03:54 PM   #24 
     - Tommy J  mdmc   Aug-07-04 04:06 PM   #31 
     - George Mason...who voted against the Constitution....  MrBenchley   Aug-07-04 04:12 PM   #34 
     - That's a misleading story, MrBenchley  robcon   Aug-07-04 06:41 PM   #56 
        - Mason is the right wing's patron saint  MrBenchley   Aug-08-04 08:50 AM   #92 
     - "When the citizens fear their government, you have tyranny."  Mr_Spock   Aug-08-04 11:53 AM   #103 
     - interesting point  mdmc   Aug-07-04 03:58 PM   #27 
     - Not unless flintlocks make a comeback....  MrBenchley   Aug-07-04 04:12 PM   #35 
        - flintlocks?  mdmc   Aug-07-04 04:18 PM   #39 
     - Thanks for the link.  SimpleTrend   Aug-07-04 04:23 PM   #44 
     - both a free state and a regime bear arms  mdmc   Aug-07-04 04:32 PM   #46 
     - Interesting perspective from the ACLU  PeaceForever   Aug-07-04 05:39 PM   #53 
        - And backed up by every court decision  MrBenchley   Aug-08-04 08:51 AM   #93 
  - The Ultimate Weapon  J Williams   Aug-07-04 03:50 PM   #22 
  - agreed  BlueCollar   Aug-07-04 04:03 PM   #30 
  - great post  mdmc   Aug-07-04 04:08 PM   #33 
  - Here is my take.  Lori Price CLG   Aug-07-04 04:07 PM   #32 
  - yikes! That Southwell article scares me! I like the legitgov site  mdmc   Aug-07-04 04:14 PM   #37 
  - "..a well regulated milita."  bandera   Aug-07-04 04:20 PM   #40 
  - Well, yes. It does.  neverborn   Aug-07-04 04:23 PM   #43 
     - Do you consider some goober with a can of beer and a rifle  bandera   Aug-07-04 07:08 PM   #58 
     - "Capable of acting in concert for the common defense"  Barret   Aug-07-04 10:07 PM   #63 
  - I am a liberal  Moonbeam_Starlight   Aug-07-04 05:36 PM   #52 
  - I think there is a contradiction among some people  robcon   Aug-07-04 06:51 PM   #57 
  - Agree with you mdmc  OnionPatch   Aug-07-04 07:28 PM   #59 
  - cool-io  mdmc   Aug-07-04 07:47 PM   #61 
  - Do you seriously think you could take the US army  Alex146   Aug-07-04 07:31 PM   #60 
  - One does not overthrow weaponry.  ronabop   Aug-08-04 02:47 AM   #80 
  - Nope  Shiru   Aug-07-04 10:09 PM   #64 
  - Sounds like you have a good understanding of the 2nd Amendment  BullGooseLoony   Aug-07-04 10:26 PM   #65 
  - me?  mdmc   Aug-08-04 09:29 PM   #112 
  - US v. Miller provides historical background on the second amendment  hansberrym   Aug-08-04 02:02 AM   #71 
  - I say that there is NO reason  CaTeacher   Aug-08-04 02:18 AM   #72 
  - here is a couple of reasons  mdmc   Aug-08-04 09:32 PM   #113 
  - I respectfully disagree.  ProfLefty   Aug-08-04 02:20 AM   #73 
  - Thank you!  CaTeacher   Aug-08-04 02:24 AM   #74 
     - Yes! Yes! Yes!  ProfLefty   Aug-08-04 02:29 AM   #75 
        - In todays world  Speed8098   Aug-08-04 09:40 AM   #96 
  - See also the Federalist Papers  hansberrym   Aug-08-04 02:30 AM   #76 
  - Things have changed quite a bit since the  CaTeacher   Aug-08-04 02:35 AM   #77 
     - Right you are.  ProfLefty   Aug-08-04 02:41 AM   #78 
     - Have governments been less likely to slaughter people?  hansberrym   Aug-08-04 02:53 AM   #81 
     - I would advise you to look at Kerry's Senate  CaTeacher   Aug-08-04 03:39 AM   #88 
        - There's Nothing Accidental.......  Paladin   Aug-08-04 10:10 AM   #97 
        - You're just upset that the Republicans pass all the  FeebMaster   Aug-08-04 12:28 PM   #105 
        - One might check out the Democratic party platform and its  hansberrym   Aug-09-04 12:51 AM   #118 
     - I agree  Columbia   Aug-08-04 03:00 AM   #83 
     - Do you also have an objection to the 14th Amendment?  hansberrym   Aug-08-04 03:18 AM   #86 
  - When they take away our guns  Sirveri   Aug-08-04 02:58 AM   #82 
  - "When guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns"  hansberrym   Aug-08-04 03:07 AM   #84 
     - I am a social libertarian.  Sirveri   Aug-08-04 03:11 AM   #85 
  - The second amendment ahs never been used to dney gun legislation  Gore1FL   Aug-08-04 03:32 AM   #87 
  - What is going on here?  ProfLefty   Aug-08-04 03:39 AM   #89 
     - This isn't technically a site just for liberals.  Sirveri   Aug-08-04 04:21 AM   #90 
     - I hope so.  ProfLefty   Aug-08-04 04:41 AM   #91 
     - I bet that "Che" guy had a gun.  LoZoccolo   Aug-08-04 10:16 AM   #98 
     - Che  ProfLefty   Aug-08-04 01:05 PM   #107 
     - Killing is not always wrong  Columbia   Aug-08-04 11:36 AM   #102 
     - I wish I would live to see the day  OnionPatch   Aug-08-04 12:31 PM   #106 
        - My thoughts.  ProfLefty   Aug-08-04 11:54 PM   #116 
           - I see what you're saying  OnionPatch   Aug-09-04 12:36 AM   #117 
              - I hear you.  ProfLefty   Aug-09-04 12:58 AM   #119 
 

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