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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 09:05 PM
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19. IMHO if Holy Joe gets the nomination
What's left of the dem party will be not just in tatters after 2004....it will cease to exist or morph into the republican party and become just a part of one state party.

Regardless of whether Dean gets the nomination, it appears clear, to me at least, that he has emboldened (some of) the other Dem candidates to speak out against Bush rather than praising him in hopes of having some of Smirk's perceived popularity rub off on them.

For that, I will be foreever grateful to him.
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  -What Good Is Dean if He Takes Down the Democratic Party??? Starpass  Jul-11-03 09:19 AM   #0 
  - Flip side of the same coin  DisgustipatedinCA   Jul-10-03 08:22 PM   #1 
  - There are TWO elections and this is where he has to be careful  Starpass   Jul-10-03 08:29 PM   #3 
     - He is who he is  CWebster   Jul-10-03 08:38 PM   #7 
     - A broad cross-section  Bombtrack   Jul-10-03 08:59 PM   #15 
        - "a broad cross-section of knee-jerk, anti-war left-wingers"  indigo32   Jul-10-03 10:49 PM   #32 
        - Ah, there he is...  AngryWhiteDemocrat   Jul-10-03 10:52 PM   #33 
        - kneejerks were against Afghanistan too  Classical_Liberal   Jul-11-03 03:17 AM   #49 
     - Why pray tell would Dean attack any Democrat after the nomination  Bandit   Jul-11-03 08:51 AM   #63 
  - chill  CWebster   Jul-10-03 08:23 PM   #2 
  - Sadly, there are plenty of arse kissers in the Democratic Party!  Cascadian   Jul-11-03 12:51 AM   #41 
  - Its pretty clear Dean will have to reposition himself to win in the fall  TheBigGuy   Jul-10-03 08:30 PM   #4 
  - Bullhockey  Tanketra   Jul-11-03 02:56 AM   #47 
  - Just how would Dean take down the party?  mandyky   Jul-10-03 08:30 PM   #5 
  - I have the same question  chaumont58   Jul-10-03 08:52 PM   #14 
  - WE are the Democratic Party and WE are bigger than any one candidate  BeachBuckeye   Jul-10-03 08:36 PM   #6 
  - Well, I'm far from settling on Dean as a nominee, -but-  karlschneider   Jul-10-03 08:40 PM   #8 
  - oddly enough...that centerist thing...  TheBigGuy   Jul-10-03 08:47 PM   #10 
  - Exactly.  Dhalgren   Jul-10-03 09:11 PM   #20 
  - If you have Republican Lite vs. Republican....  Cascadian   Jul-11-03 12:54 AM   #42 
  - The better question is..."What good is the Democratic Party?"  AngryWhiteLiberal   Jul-10-03 08:45 PM   #9 
  - With the events of the last few years under Bush...  Cascadian   Jul-11-03 12:57 AM   #43 
  - Yes dammit! yes!  seeker4ever   Jul-11-03 06:49 AM   #55 
  - You are no James Carville  MODemocrat   Jul-10-03 08:48 PM   #11 
  - The problem is the core of the Democratic party has gone moderate,  JaySherman   Jul-10-03 08:49 PM   #12 
  - who says they are "the core"?  dfong63   Jul-10-03 08:59 PM   #16 
     - I should have clarified or used better word choice.  JaySherman   Jul-11-03 02:11 AM   #46 
  - Don't you have that backwards? What good is the Dem party if it takes  Dover   Jul-10-03 08:52 PM   #13 
  - Thank you, Dover,,,,I was just going to post something,,,,  zidzi   Jul-10-03 09:02 PM   #18 
  - Zid, love the pic.  caledesi   Jul-10-03 09:54 PM   #25 
  - What you said.  Jim Sagle   Jul-10-03 09:35 PM   #22 
  - Bam!  seeker4ever   Jul-11-03 06:53 AM   #56 
  - Why not look at it this way?  T Roosevelt   Jul-10-03 09:00 PM   #17 
  - IMHO if Holy Joe gets the nomination  Jacobin   Jul-10-03 09:05 PM   #19 
  - This rant does not fly with me!  mazzarro   Jul-10-03 09:18 PM   #21 
  - Thread summary:  Jim Sagle   Jul-10-03 09:42 PM   #23 
  - Yup, too bad Howard showed up  Duder   Jul-10-03 09:47 PM   #24 
  - This thread is just what Mike Ruppert at FTW is talking about  arendt   Jul-10-03 09:57 PM   #26 
  - Oh, for Christ's sake  DrGonzoLives   Jul-10-03 10:04 PM   #27 
  - I happen to think Dean will unite the Party to the point of success  opihimoimoi   Jul-10-03 10:16 PM   #28 
  - LOL!  Cascadian   Jul-11-03 12:59 AM   #44 
  - He is saving a dying party  Gringo   Jul-10-03 10:22 PM   #29 
  - he is not taking down the democratic party he is bringing people in  CMT   Jul-10-03 10:35 PM   #30 
  - The easiest, cheapest way to win a primary  WilliamPitt   Jul-10-03 10:43 PM   #31 
  - Say Will?  tkmorris   Jul-10-03 11:58 PM   #37 
  - Definitely  WilliamPitt   Jul-10-03 11:59 PM   #38 
     - Whereas the historical record of success ...  Tanketra   Jul-11-03 03:03 AM   #48 
  - Good point  loyalsister   Jul-11-03 12:37 AM   #39 
  - And then the base...  CWebster   Jul-11-03 08:11 AM   #61 
  - Hogwash!!  pengpong   Jul-10-03 10:55 PM   #34 
  - The sky is falling, the sky is falling!  IndianaGreen   Jul-10-03 11:16 PM   #35 
  - This is just want Karl Rove wants- Dems sniping at Dems.  Redleg   Jul-10-03 11:42 PM   #36 
  - Dean is emboldening the party!  Cascadian   Jul-11-03 12:47 AM   #40 
  - If Bush is defeated  anamandujano   Jul-11-03 01:52 AM   #45 
  - Dean will cause alot of behind the scenes dems in the beltway  Classical_Liberal   Jul-11-03 03:22 AM   #50 
  - Why you are wrong  LeviathanCrumbling   Jul-11-03 03:48 AM   #51 
  - Nice Positive Post! Welcome  Ripley   Jul-11-03 09:29 AM   #66 
  - interesting choice of words  Iverson   Jul-11-03 06:20 AM   #52 
  - Starpass, who is YOUR candidate?  ima_sinnic   Jul-11-03 06:35 AM   #53 
  - I'd rather Dean shake up the party  Loonman   Jul-11-03 06:45 AM   #54 
  - Assclown?  midnight armadillo   Jul-11-03 07:00 AM   #59 
  - What good is the Democratic party if it can't take down Bush*?  RetroLounge   Jul-11-03 06:56 AM   #57 
  - What's to take down?  Ress1   Jul-11-03 06:58 AM   #58 
  - People who don't understand...  deseo   Jul-11-03 07:23 AM   #60 
  - What a silly lead post!  poskonig   Jul-11-03 08:24 AM   #62 
  - How can the party be taken down?  jos   Jul-11-03 09:18 AM   #64 
  - May I just say  Le Taz Hot   Jul-11-03 09:19 AM   #65 
  - Blah blah blah  RichM   Jul-11-03 09:59 AM   #67 
 

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