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4. Precisely! Here is Schoenman and Hellyer
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(brief bio of Ralph Schoenman: Ralph Schoenman served as Secretary General of the International Tribunal on U.S. War Crimes in Indochina. He was imprisoned in Bolivia after the death of Che Guevera. He has worked alongside Malcom X and been an international advocate for the successful release of political prisoners. He has authored many books, including books about Zionism, Iraq and Kuwait, the Congo, Isreal and Palestine. Ralph Schoenman and Mya Shone host a weekly radio broadcase called Taking Aim, and also provide commentary for a Paciifica radio report.)

ex- Canadian Defense Minister asks 'WHY" failure? (pics)

(Paul Hellyer photos credit Kyle Hence)

An interview with Paul Hellyer,
former Defense Minister of Canada

The following interview was conducted by Kyle Hence of and Bill Douglas of, on May 27, 2004, at the International 9-11 Inquiry in Toronto, Canada.

(Paul Hellyer held the Canadian office equivalent to Secretary of Defense in the U.S., and was Deputy Prime Minister, the Canadian equivalent to Vice President.)

Paul Hellyer:
Why didn't you know this was going to happen? You spend billions and billions with spooks all over the world and surely you should have known what was going on. And, so I began to be concerned about that. And then questions were raised by others. Why did the President just sit in the schoolroom when he heard the news? Why did he not acknowledge that he already knew what was going on? As a former Minister of National Defense, when the news came out I had to wonder. Why did airplanes fly around for an hour and a half without interceptors being scrambled from Andrews ? Is it Andrews right next to the capitol?

Kyle Hence: Yes, that's correct.

Paul Hellyer: With a quick action alert they should have been there in five minutes or ten minutes. If not, as the Minister of National Defense, which in the United States is the Secretary of Defense, I would want to say "why not?"

Kyle Hence: Does it disturb you, or do you have concerns about your neighbors to the south that there's been no inquiry at a defense level relative to the specific failure to scramble jets?

Paul Hellyer: I think the inquiry has been very shallow and superficial. And I would like to see a much tougher more in-depth inquiry. The evidence is that some people were allowed to fly out of the United States after the attack when American citizens were not allowed to fly in. And Canadians had the pleasure, I guess in a sense, of the company of tens of thousands, several tens of thousands of them in Canada for a few days, especially in Newfoundland where the people were most gracious in looking after them. But why were some members of the Bin Laden family allowed to fly out of the United States? Why?

There are so many questions. What is going wrong here? Or was there something going wrong? How much did they actually know?

Kyle Hence: It seems like there's a fundamental lack of accountability and transparency, especially now in the wake of 9-11. Does that concern you in regards to what's happening in America with the Patriot Act, and the projection of American military power?

Paul Hellyer: Oh, very, very much so. I'm very disturbed about a lack of transparency. Everyone talks about it, and no one is willing to come clean, as it were. I just had lunch, interestingly enough with the designer of the Avro Arrow which was cancelled more than 40 years ago and one of the things we were discussing were the lies that people in government and the Air Force told at the time. And I guess this makes me all the more suspicious. If they lied about that, what else were they lying about? So, we were agreeing that you had to get behind the superficial and the spin and try and get at the truth. It's very difficult. It takes a lot of time. But, we have to try and get the truth. Because unless we do, as the good book says, "seek the truth and the truth will set you free." And I think that's what we've got to try to do and I hope that somebody has the courage and the persistence to keep at it until we can get it.

Online movie of Hellyer interview (7 minutes): /

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  - kick  sadiesworld   Aug-05-04 11:34 AM   #1 
  - And the probability these events occured by chance is...  TruthIsAll   Aug-05-04 11:48 AM   #2 
  - And the list is only as long as I had time to make it.  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 11:51 AM   #3 
  - Precisely! Here is Schoenman and Hellyer  graphixtech   Aug-05-04 11:59 AM   #4 
  - They had a bad day, that's all  BeFree   Aug-05-04 12:25 PM   #5 
  - FEMA getting there on 9/10  DemVIctory   Aug-05-04 12:36 PM   #6 
     - No, it is true. Giuliani testified to it before the 9/11 commission.  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 12:57 PM   #9 
        - That *Jebbieboy  Karenina   Aug-05-04 01:12 PM   #11 
           - COINCIDENCE AND LIKELY STORIES  seemslikeadream   Aug-05-04 02:36 PM   #19 
  - I knew it all along  Capn Sunshine   Aug-05-04 12:48 PM   #7 
  - the americans cannot deal with 911 now.... the truth is beyond their  cthrumatrix   Aug-05-04 12:50 PM   #8 
  - many are afraid to look foolish  donkeyotay   Aug-05-04 01:04 PM   #10 
  - Bush and Condi said they couldn't wait for the "smoking gun"  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 01:26 PM   #12 
     - uhmm... I hope you realize I was agreeing with you  donkeyotay   Aug-05-04 02:19 PM   #16 
        - oh I do, I do.  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 02:25 PM   #17 
  - Awesome essay, MB! Duly bookmarked  steviet_2003   Aug-05-04 01:49 PM   #13 
  - Great post!  merh   Aug-05-04 01:52 PM   #14 
  - kick n/t  liberalnproud   Aug-05-04 02:10 PM   #15 
  - Got a link?  Octafish   Aug-05-04 02:31 PM   #18 
  - one good octopus deserves another  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 02:52 PM   #20 
  - I think I will print this out  JohnyCanuck   Aug-05-04 03:30 PM   #21 
  - Your assumption is correct  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 03:44 PM   #22 
  - Excellent Post  Lyagushka   Aug-05-04 04:12 PM   #23 
  - Good stuff there, thanks.  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 06:32 PM   #26 
     - wow, I just read that article  frank frankly   Aug-05-04 08:08 PM   #29 
  - MAGNIFICENT WORK!!!  frank frankly   Aug-05-04 04:14 PM   #24 
  - kickin' for the evening crowd. n/t  liberalnproud   Aug-05-04 06:27 PM   #25 
  - Excellent job! I'm sure this can be built upon too.  leesa   Aug-05-04 06:48 PM   #27 
  - "How many coincidences does it take to make a plot?" - Mae Brussell  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 07:52 PM   #28 
  - .  sadiesworld   Aug-05-04 08:41 PM   #30 
  - final kick for the night n/t  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 10:26 PM   #31 
  - Interesting wonders how deep the rabbit hole goes...  truebrit71   Aug-05-04 10:39 PM   #32 
  - RofLmao!! Statistics? Anyone?????  TomNickell   Aug-05-04 10:44 PM   #33 
  - Statistics? I knew the odds were better than even you'd show up  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 10:58 PM   #34 
     - You bad bad Minstrel-san  seemslikeadream   Aug-05-04 11:15 PM   #35 
     - 'nother kick for Minstrel Boy  Djinn   Aug-05-04 11:21 PM   #36 
        - That reminds me of a quote from Andreas von Blow,  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 11:44 PM   #38 
           - sums up my feelings  Djinn   Aug-06-04 12:08 AM   #40 
  - This is great, but it would be even better with links. I know some of it  milkyway   Aug-05-04 11:36 PM   #37 
  - I know. It wasn't really meant to be a resource; more of a polemic.  Minstrel Boy   Aug-05-04 11:50 PM   #39 
     - Wow, I don't know how I missed this when you first posted it. Thanks.  milkyway   Aug-06-04 12:12 AM   #41 
  - Great essay. But may I suggest...  lostnfound   Aug-06-04 01:53 AM   #42 
  - Thanks for mentioning the Carlyle meeting,  Minstrel Boy   Aug-06-04 07:21 AM   #44 
  - KICK  thecrow   Aug-06-04 06:55 AM   #43 
     - Good idea!  Karenina   Aug-06-04 08:30 AM   #45 

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