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RememberJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-22-03 04:46 PM
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157. YOU are hearing what you want to hear...
OK, we've established that you don't like Clark.

But don't pretend you knew what he meant when he didn't say what you are accusing him of.

Screw that BS you just posted. You have NO IDEA what his motives are. Just your theory. Yours alone.

He said there are good people in both parties. And that is true.

He didn't praise the republican leadership as you keep implying he did.

If he gets the nod, don't vote for him.

If you know he's on TV, don't watch him.

Put yourself out of your misery.

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  -Garofolo and Clark on Crossfire on CNN at 4:30PM/3:30 Central 8/22/03 snyttri  Aug-22-03 02:05 PM   #0 
  - Include the date in the subject line for "Wonk"  VermontDem2004   Aug-22-03 02:06 PM   #1 
  - Why did you say "wonk"?  snyttri   Aug-22-03 02:12 PM   #2 
  - Wonk  camcb   Aug-22-03 02:14 PM   #3 
     - Thanks  snyttri   Aug-22-03 02:16 PM   #4 
        - 1/2 hour to showtime  snyttri   Aug-22-03 02:55 PM   #5 
           - 10 minutes to show time  VermontDem2004   Aug-22-03 03:22 PM   #6 
              - starting now  snyttri   Aug-22-03 03:28 PM   #7 
  - Thanks. It's helpful when scanning old thread titles to have dates.  Wonk   Aug-22-03 03:35 PM   #10 
     - mp3 here for those who missed it  Wonk   Aug-22-03 04:26 PM   #125 
  - omigod her hair... i heard she changed it but wow...  smallprint   Aug-22-03 03:32 PM   #8 
  - janeane as guest host...  dean4america   Aug-22-03 03:34 PM   #9 
  - She called * draft dodger AWOL  proud patriot   Aug-22-03 03:35 PM   #11 
  - I love that Fox crack  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:36 PM   #12 
  - Clark is going to be on Next  proud patriot   Aug-22-03 03:37 PM   #13 
  - So, where is Carville/Begala? Both on vacation?  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 03:38 PM   #14 
  - Carville/Begala  snyttri   Aug-22-03 03:40 PM   #18 
  - God I love her  TNOE   Aug-22-03 03:39 PM   #15 
  - Give CNN Credit For Guest Hosts !!  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 03:39 PM   #16 
  - No kidding  proud patriot   Aug-22-03 03:41 PM   #19 
  - Except for Ron Silver...  all_hail_gwb   Aug-22-03 03:44 PM   #25 
  - Did I hear right?  sugarcookie   Aug-22-03 03:40 PM   #17 
  - You Heard Right , However Clark just said he's not annoucing today  proud patriot   Aug-22-03 03:42 PM   #21 
     - He's coming off as VERY centrist  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:43 PM   #24 
        - dismissing people because you don't like their politics is nit smart  snyttri   Aug-22-03 03:46 PM   # 
        - I don't see how  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:49 PM   #38 
           - Except maybe democratic elections  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:14 PM   #104 
              - right  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:18 PM   #111 
                 - Nonconfrontational?  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:20 PM   #117 
                    - I didn't hear very much critical anything  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:31 PM   #135 
                       - I will let the general speak for himself  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:37 PM   #146 
                          - I would support him if he won the primary  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:44 PM   #155 
        - yep  dean4america   Aug-22-03 03:47 PM   #31 
        - I don't what ya mean  0007   Aug-22-03 05:35 PM   #187 
        - He's running n/t  coalminersdaughter   Aug-22-03 03:47 PM   #33 
  - Great people in BOTH parties  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:41 PM   #20 
  - You gonna mention the rest of the statement?  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 03:43 PM   #23 
  - what?  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:44 PM   #26 
     - No!  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 03:45 PM   #28 
     - He said there were great PEOPLE in both parties  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:48 PM   #34 
     - There are great people in BOTH parties...  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 03:49 PM   #39 
     - No, I think all Republicans are evil and inhuman.  tameszu   Aug-22-03 03:53 PM   #47 
        - good people personally  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:54 PM   #53 
        - Since they were referring to members of the party...  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 03:55 PM   #57 
        - Yeah  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-22-03 04:01 PM   #76 
           - taking my statements out of context  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:14 PM   #103 
           - I Take A Back Seat To No One  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-22-03 04:19 PM   #114 
              - I think bashing their ideas  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:24 PM   #123 
                 - I Think Some of Them Are Evil  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-22-03 04:30 PM   #133 
                    - so would I but  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:33 PM   #139 
                       - Since you spend so much time saying he doesn't take any stands why  snyttri   Aug-22-03 05:24 PM   #180 
                          - I don't have a problem with his stand  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 05:53 PM   #189 
           - What's That?  XanthaS   Aug-22-03 04:50 PM   #163 
     - Clark  _NorCal_D_   Aug-22-03 04:05 PM   #82 
     - That's why he hasn't announced as a Democrat yet....  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 03:57 PM   #62 
        - if it's so obvious  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:00 PM   #71 
           - That statement is obviously only stupid to you...  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 04:03 PM   #78 
              - you again  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:08 PM   #87 
                 - You're kind of controdicting yourself and assuming....  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 04:11 PM   #96 
                 - he praised the PARTY  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:16 PM   #108 
                    - You're hearing what you want to hear...  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 04:34 PM   #141 
                       - who's really hearing what they want to hear?  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:41 PM   #149 
                       - YOU are hearing what you want to hear...  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 04:46 PM   #157 
                          - and we've established  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:56 PM   #170 
                             - You're arguing like a freeper... strawman...  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 05:21 PM   #177 
                                - Why is Leftist78 having such a hard time understanding this?  wyldwolf   Aug-22-03 05:25 PM   #181 
                                   - You just about nailed it...  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 05:30 PM   #186 
                                      - I'm sorry. I seem to remember  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 06:14 PM   #192 
                                         - Then you remember wrong...  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 07:39 PM   #196 
                       - name a great repub senator..or governor........n/t  synthia   Aug-22-03 06:12 PM   #191 
                 - Did Clark praise the party? No! He said: there are a lot of great PEOPLE  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:18 PM   #113 
                    - I like Janeane too...  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:34 PM   #142 
     - He wasn't patting himself on the back. He was letting people..  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:06 PM   #83 
     - Truman Begged  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-22-03 04:08 PM   #88 
  - He's definitely running n/t  coalminersdaughter   Aug-22-03 03:48 PM   #35 
  - Garofolo seems pretty enthused about him  snyttri   Aug-22-03 03:42 PM   #22 
  - She suggested the type of ticket I had made mention of earlier-  MiltonLeBerle   Aug-22-03 03:47 PM   #32 
  - Jeanean was talking about fusion of ideas from the left and right.  oasis   Aug-22-03 03:52 PM   #44 
  - She sure did. I thought she would jump out of her seat...  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 03:53 PM   #46 
     - Aww, I want to see it!  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:24 PM   #121 
  - Still no real answer about being a  mandyky   Aug-22-03 03:45 PM   #27 
  - This is getting OLD. N/T  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 03:46 PM   #29 
  - saying you're undeclared all the time is an inherently difficult position  snyttri   Aug-22-03 03:59 PM   #68 
  - he's so vague  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:46 PM   #30 
     - announcing his party pigeon-holes him as a partisan  snyttri   Aug-22-03 03:50 PM   #40 
     - the longer he does this  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:53 PM   #48 
     - I think you are right  sugarcookie   Aug-22-03 04:11 PM   #94 
     - exactly on point n/t  ewagner   Aug-22-03 04:18 PM   #112 
     - He wasn't vague about saying we're in Iraq under "false pretenses."  oasis   Aug-22-03 03:53 PM   #51 
  - Janeane thinks he would make a great candidate. . .  wndycty   Aug-22-03 03:49 PM   #36 
  - She meant great CANDIDATE  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 03:51 PM   #42 
  - Rationalize all you want. . .  wndycty   Aug-22-03 03:53 PM   #50 
  - I Told You So  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 03:55 PM   #56 
     - But she likes Clark. . .  wndycty   Aug-22-03 03:58 PM   #67 
     - Why is Janeane so excited about a Clark/Dean ticket. . .  wndycty   Aug-22-03 04:01 PM   #73 
        - She said DEAN/Clark  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:06 PM   #85 
           - Nit picking, huh?  wndycty   Aug-22-03 04:09 PM   #90 
           - Nit Picking?????  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:11 PM   #95 
           - First she did. The second time she said, Clark/Dean... Like many  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:21 PM   #118 
           - Not that it's so important, but she ALSO said Clark/Dean  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:27 PM   #127 
              - Thank you! I have no reason to lie about it since...  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:30 PM   #131 
     - Ha ha! The last thing she said on that subject was a CLARK/Dean..  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:12 PM   #98 
        - (O/T) Mmm...Freudian slips...  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:41 PM   #150 
           - Well... To tell you the truth....  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:58 PM   #171 
  - Oh please. She was clapping, FCOL!  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:10 PM   #91 
     - She said DEAN-Clark --- don't change it!  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:11 PM   #97 
        - At first she did. Then she said, Clark/Dean. Wanna bet?  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:25 PM   #124 
        - To be accurate. . .  wndycty   Aug-22-03 04:28 PM   #129 
           - I have a tape too. I find it very useful when you're attempting...  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:43 PM   #153 
           - Fair enough! Thanks.  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:51 PM   #166 
  - if he didn't have good left credentials she would not say "woo-hoo!"  snyttri   Aug-22-03 03:52 PM   #45 
     - A left GENERAL? Prosecuted a war ....ahhhh....another day N/T  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 03:54 PM   #52 
        - I Love The Wars That Ike, Washington, and Grant Prosecuted  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-22-03 04:04 PM   #79 
           - Yugoslavia was NOT Nazi Germany  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:06 PM   #84 
              - Many of those in Bosnia and Kosovo would  Pepperbelly   Aug-22-03 04:10 PM   #92 
              - If you read a few Serb blogs you would learn a thing or two  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:13 PM   #101 
              - Oh goodness, are we going to start this again? Two acronyms: UN ICC  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:12 PM   #100 
              - That's Why I SAID another day.....  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:16 PM   #107 
                 - Fair enough...also, I answered you already--go back and check the thread  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:30 PM   #130 
                    - Great! Welcome to the United States!  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:32 PM   #137 
                       - Thanks! This place is fun, but exhausting at times...  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:43 PM   #154 
              - It Was A War To Put A Genocidal Maniac  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-22-03 04:15 PM   #106 
                 - You've been BAMBOOZLED  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:19 PM   #115 
                    - I  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-22-03 04:27 PM   #126 
                    - You heard - PRE-WAR propaganda  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:30 PM   #132 
                    - I thought we said another day?  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:32 PM   #138 
                       - You are absolutely right!  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:37 PM   #145 
                          - Milosevic wrote the preface for an edition Parenti's book  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:58 PM   #172 
                             - We will do that  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 05:02 PM   #174 
                                - You too...cheers...  tameszu   Aug-22-03 05:23 PM   #178 
  - Listening to General Clark speak-  MiltonLeBerle   Aug-22-03 03:49 PM   #37 
  - If Clark runs  Rick Myers   Aug-22-03 03:50 PM   #41 
     - What if Clark challenges Bush for the Republican nomination?  gratuitous   Aug-22-03 03:56 PM   #58 
     - rove won't let him in the ring, then  maxsolomon   Aug-22-03 03:56 PM   #61 
  - Clark on Republicans  Cush   Aug-22-03 03:51 PM   #43 
  - I think the people whining over Clark not announcing party affiliation...  RememberJohn   Aug-22-03 03:53 PM   #49 
  - I am not worried  VermontDem2004   Aug-22-03 03:56 PM   #59 
  - Yeah, they announced a judge ruled against Faux on the Franken lawsuit!!!  U4ikLefty   Aug-22-03 03:54 PM   #54 
  - Judge Rules Against Case in Fox vs. Franken ...WOOOO HOOOO  proud patriot   Aug-22-03 03:55 PM   #55 
  - good  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 03:56 PM   #60 
  - Oh Really is going to pop a vein on his show tonight  VermontDem2004   Aug-22-03 03:57 PM   #64 
  - Hey, wanna bet that Faux names the judge about 100 times today  U4ikLefty   Aug-22-03 03:58 PM   #66 
  - Is Garafolo a Dean supporter?  TSIAS   Aug-22-03 03:57 PM   #63 
  - She called herself a Dean person  VermontDem2004   Aug-22-03 03:58 PM   #65 
  - Said Dean/Clark ticket would be awesome N/T  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 03:59 PM   #70 
  - She also just said  Hoppin_Mad   Aug-22-03 04:01 PM   #75 
     - Moderate Repub and moderate Dem? I think Joe Lieberman's her pick.  oasis   Aug-22-03 04:12 PM   #99 
     - The John Anderson strategy, for those of us who go that far back.  BillyBunter   Aug-22-03 04:17 PM   #109 
  - wow  Cush   Aug-22-03 03:59 PM   #69 
  - The question asked "would you CONSIDER voting for Wesley Clark  VermontDem2004   Aug-22-03 04:01 PM   #74 
  - Awesome  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-22-03 04:36 PM   #144 
  - She just said she'd like a Clark/Dean ticket  snyttri   Aug-22-03 04:00 PM   #72 
  - That's two liberal gurus on board for Clark now. Jeanane and Moore...  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:02 PM   #77 
  - that's easy  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:04 PM   #80 
  - I would not call her on board just yet. . .  wndycty   Aug-22-03 04:05 PM   #81 
  - I don't know if Janeane's a guru, but she is a pretty damned cool lefty  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:07 PM   #86 
  - There's nothing to "get on board" to  Pastiche423   Aug-22-03 04:11 PM   #93 
  - MOORE ?????????  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:14 PM   #105 
     - I think it's in reference to this:  bicentennial_baby   Aug-22-03 04:18 PM   #110 
     - I would be more than happy to:  wndycty   Aug-22-03 04:19 PM   #116 
     - Maybe Michael's next project  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:23 PM   #120 
        - You're denying mass graves?  IranianDemocrat   Aug-22-03 04:43 PM   #152 
           - Oh, PLEASE  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:46 PM   #156 
              - so this is all false?  IranianDemocrat   Aug-22-03 05:28 PM   #185 
     - Yeah. As in Michael. See Bicentennial Baby's link..  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:36 PM   #143 
  - Why isn't Clark proud to be a Democrat like Dean?  poskonig   Aug-22-03 04:09 PM   #89 
  - You can't be a political partisan when you're in the army==they don't put  snyttri   Aug-22-03 04:24 PM   #122 
  - Clark is no longer in the military. Why not be a *proud* Democrat?  poskonig   Aug-22-03 04:30 PM   #134 
     - But you have to admit Clark has the biggest readiest grin  JustJoe   Aug-22-03 04:50 PM   #162 
     - You are labeling Clark without knowing his stands. Clark is more anti-war  snyttri   Aug-22-03 05:13 PM   #175 
        - I know Clark is a liberal.  poskonig   Aug-22-03 05:28 PM   #184 
           - The "shame" is a product of your imagination and a way to scare Dems  snyttri   Aug-22-03 05:43 PM   #188 
              - Lame.  poskonig   Aug-22-03 05:54 PM   #190 
  - There is something called "strategy"  Democat   Aug-22-03 04:28 PM   #128 
  - Yeah, the Daschle-Gephardt "pretend we're not liberals" strategy.  poskonig   Aug-22-03 04:31 PM   #136 
  - Would you rather have a Democrat who's reticent to be a liberal...  tameszu   Aug-22-03 04:47 PM   #158 
     - Both are preferable.  poskonig   Aug-22-03 04:51 PM   #167 
  - OR called, "Politics As Usual."  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:42 PM   #151 
     - I'm sure your candidate is as pure as the driven snow. Who is he/she..  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:50 PM   #165 
        - I am a DEMOCRAT (unlike what Clark will say) and....  JasonBerry   Aug-22-03 04:54 PM   #168 
        - I like Dennis. I would never bash him...  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 05:01 PM   #173 
        - ok you asked  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 05:19 PM   #176 
  - He said the Democratic Party  HootieMcBoob   Aug-22-03 04:33 PM   #140 
  - Lieberman's Alot of Things But He Never Hides The  DemocratSinceBirth   Aug-22-03 04:38 PM   #147 
  - Howard Fineman of Newsweek says Clark is in, was a "seer" on Iraq  snyttri   Aug-22-03 04:13 PM   #102 
  - unimpressed by Clark  Minstrel Boy   Aug-22-03 04:22 PM   #119 
  - Agree to a degree about his presentation today..Makes me believe....  Kahuna   Aug-22-03 04:39 PM   #148 
  - agreed nm  Leftist78   Aug-22-03 04:47 PM   #159 
  - alienating the other side just because they're th "other side" is a good -  snyttri   Aug-22-03 04:48 PM   #160 
  - sure, but this isn't election season; it's  Minstrel Boy   Aug-22-03 05:23 PM   #179 
  - Boy You Called It.  Upfront   Aug-22-03 07:04 PM   #193 
  - I was singularly unimpressed  ZombyWoof   Aug-22-03 07:25 PM   #194 
     - Very Nice, Dear  DoveTurnedHawk   Aug-22-03 08:00 PM   #197 
  - Putting Kosovo in context:  Donna Zen   Aug-22-03 04:49 PM   #161 
  - Thanks, Donna!  tameszu   Aug-22-03 05:26 PM   #183 
  - Clark's the one~  Avalon Sparks   Aug-22-03 04:50 PM   #164 
  - He does appeal to the white men vote. At Clark Meetups veterans show  snyttri   Aug-22-03 04:56 PM   #169 
     - maybe he's a genuine....  grasswire   Aug-22-03 05:26 PM   #182 
        - Ding, ding, ding  jumptheshadow   Aug-22-03 07:30 PM   #195 
  - transcript  snyttri   Aug-22-03 09:00 PM   #198 
     - Subduing the best of the right wing tv talkers impressed me  eleny   Aug-22-03 11:05 PM   #199 
        - If you liked that see more Clark vs. the conservatives at DigitalClarkcom  snyttri   Aug-23-03 12:24 AM   #200 
 

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