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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. Really? Did the New York Times admit they helped manufacture
evidence?

I've seen the issue addressed this week...I heard Bill Clinton address it the other night. Maybe you haven't noticed the one sidedness of the press covering this election...no?

BTW...I can't be insulting everyone...I protested the war and do not feel I am insulting myself...every time you generalize, you embarrass yourself.
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  -Medea Benjamin (Code Pink) unfurls banner, ejected by police G_j  Jul-28-04 11:41 AM   #0 
  - Where did she do this?  BlueEyedSon   Jul-28-04 11:42 AM   #1 
  - oops...sorry.. At the Convention n/t  G_j   Jul-28-04 11:44 AM   #2 
  - Democracy is messy  EastofEdon   Jul-28-04 11:56 AM   #3 
  - Yea I bet it is  Zidane   Jul-28-04 12:41 PM   #32 
     - you can't build cages  EastofEdon   Jul-28-04 12:58 PM   #36 
        - Yeah, because that's exactly what we want...a repeat of Chicago '68  lib71   Jul-28-04 01:03 PM   #41 
           - maybe you could focus on what I actually said  EastofEdon   Jul-28-04 01:13 PM   #45 
           - That's what the DNC seems to be aiming for  truthspeaker   Jul-28-04 01:14 PM   #47 
              - although I don't think the cage was the DNC's doing  EastofEdon   Jul-28-04 01:18 PM   #50 
  - If she's unhappy about the occupation...  QC   Jul-28-04 12:00 PM   #4 
  - She has done so  gratuitous   Jul-28-04 12:11 PM   #8 
  - Those of us who oppose the war are now "uberlefties?" I am moderate.  madfloridian   Jul-28-04 12:14 PM   #9 
  - Who said anything about you?  QC   Jul-28-04 12:17 PM   #12 
     - You should have made it clear. I am one of few here now who oppose.  madfloridian   Jul-28-04 12:20 PM   #15 
        - I should make it more clear, in a thread about Medea Benjamin,  QC   Jul-28-04 12:28 PM   #23 
  - I bet she spends at least 85-90% of her time scorning Bush/Cheney  lostnfound   Jul-28-04 12:19 PM   #13 
  - "Give Bush the Pink Slip"  G_j   Jul-28-04 12:21 PM   #16 
  - Medea has been taking it up with Bush forever....proudly.  madfloridian   Jul-28-04 12:24 PM   #20 
  - I thought I heard someone yell during her speech  deutsey   Jul-28-04 12:08 PM   #5 
  - The video shows her being take out by police. Dragged.  madfloridian   Jul-28-04 12:15 PM   #10 
  - Hmm. The more I ponder this the more I support what she did  deutsey   Jul-28-04 12:23 PM   #19 
  - I support her action 100%  truthspeaker   Jul-28-04 12:30 PM   #24 
     - it is healthy ! n/t  G_j   Jul-28-04 12:33 PM   #26 
  - wasn't Teresa praising those who dare to dissent, and particularly  flordehinojos   Jul-28-04 12:09 PM   #6 
  - not sure how ironic it is  GreenArrow   Jul-28-04 12:56 PM   #35 
  - Did Theresa walk her out?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 02:18 PM   #94 
     - No. According to the report she was "ejected" by the police.  flordehinojos   Jul-28-04 06:44 PM   #118 
  - the DNC is wrong for dragging her out  donsu   Jul-28-04 12:10 PM   #7 
  - Well, while I understand her sentiment,  FlaGranny   Jul-28-04 12:15 PM   #11 
  - The convention is not the place for dissent?  madfloridian   Jul-28-04 12:19 PM   #14 
  - I think she should have the right to  CaTeacher   Jul-28-04 12:21 PM   #17 
  - I agree.  madfloridian   Jul-28-04 12:23 PM   #18 
  - yep, what would a Dem convention be without  G_j   Jul-28-04 12:26 PM   #22 
  - Its a big trade off.....  StandUpGuy   Jul-28-04 12:32 PM   #25 
  - I thought it was also ironic that Fannie Lou Hamer was rightly  deutsey   Jul-28-04 12:34 PM   #27 
  - No, I didn't mean that -  FlaGranny   Jul-28-04 12:50 PM   #34 
  - She didn't "interrupt" Teresa's speech  truthspeaker   Jul-28-04 12:58 PM   #37 
     - Someone above said that  FlaGranny   Jul-28-04 01:00 PM   #39 
        - The shout was in reaction to the arrest. The banner was silent.  truthspeaker   Jul-28-04 01:18 PM   #49 
           - If that's true, I'm definitely 100% on Medea's side on this.  deutsey   Jul-28-04 01:37 PM   #56 
              - I'm on her side too -  FlaGranny   Jul-28-04 02:57 PM   #101 
              - Final word on the pink scarves--  eridani   Jul-28-04 09:33 PM   #120 
  - it's part of making Kerry "look" like a leader  Ducks In A Row   Jul-28-04 12:59 PM   #38 
  - Oh christ  Zidane   Jul-28-04 12:35 PM   #28 
  - That's an intelligent reaction  FlaGranny   Jul-28-04 01:04 PM   #42 
     - Yes, it is  Zidane   Jul-28-04 01:14 PM   #46 
        - You do not seem to be reading very well.  FlaGranny   Jul-28-04 03:00 PM   #102 
           - She wasn't protesting, she was stating her opinion  truthspeaker   Jul-28-04 03:59 PM   #104 
              - So if Steve Forbes shows up at the Green convention with an  QC   Jul-28-04 04:05 PM   #107 
  - One man at the convention can end the occupation.  truthspeaker   Jul-28-04 12:35 PM   #29 
  - yeah,  maxanne   Jul-28-04 12:40 PM   #31 
  - Oh I met her in SF...shes a tiny woman  Mari333   Jul-28-04 12:25 PM   #21 
  - OT- speaking of Democracy Now, ya gotta listen to M Moore, this ROCKS!  G_j   Jul-28-04 12:37 PM   #30 
  - If I were her, I'd be grateful  stavka   Jul-28-04 12:45 PM   #33 
  - I don't like the cage...but there are crazies looking for a reason to kill  Gin   Jul-28-04 01:07 PM   #44 
     - It is the absolute wrong thing to do. The "crazies" aren't carrying signs  truthspeaker   Jul-28-04 01:17 PM   #48 
     - OMG  madfloridian   Jul-28-04 01:21 PM   #51 
     - pens are for animals and criminals  GreenArrow   Jul-28-04 01:42 PM   #59 
  - Was that who Hillary turned around to look at?  GloriaSmith   Jul-28-04 01:01 PM   #40 
  - I think all the printed signs look stale  bloom   Jul-28-04 01:06 PM   #43 
  - I'm sorry to be so negative  G_j   Jul-28-04 01:29 PM   #52 
  - Tonight's speaches  stavka   Jul-28-04 01:33 PM   #53 
  - Who exactly is the son of a Nazi war criminal?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 01:40 PM   #57 
     - I was wondering the same...  deutsey   Jul-28-04 01:41 PM   #58 
     - Shalikashvili's father was a Georgian SS soldier....  stavka   Jul-28-04 02:34 PM   #99 
        - and that has what to do with Kerry?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 04:12 PM   #109 
           - I'm pretty sure, nothing...  stavka   Jul-28-04 04:29 PM   #112 
  - Gee that sounds a lot like something Nader would say.  redqueen   Jul-28-04 01:34 PM   #54 
  - please see post 61 below  G_j   Jul-28-04 01:56 PM   #66 
  - You know RQ, denial ain't just a river friend  MadHound   Jul-28-04 02:12 PM   #82 
     - I'm not arguing with the reasoning behind the premise, friend,  redqueen   Jul-28-04 02:13 PM   #87 
  - These glaring oversights and suppression  CWebster   Jul-28-04 01:34 PM   #55 
  - what I am saying is  G_j   Jul-28-04 01:45 PM   #61 
     - All they did was walk her out  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 01:54 PM   #64 
        - Oh so, if it was a " Democrat" who held up a banner  CWebster   Jul-28-04 01:59 PM   #69 
        - Then hold up the fucking banner on inauguration day  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 02:01 PM   #70 
           - Who are you to demand when citizens can or can't  CWebster   Jul-28-04 02:03 PM   #72 
              - Didn't say that,. Who are you to put words in my mouth?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 02:07 PM   #77 
                 - Like Ron Reagan?  CWebster   Jul-28-04 02:15 PM   #89 
                 - They rejected a member of the Green party violating their media rules  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 02:19 PM   #96 
                 - Guess who else is voicing opinion in the Democratic convention  0rganism   Jul-28-04 04:51 PM   #114 
        - to try to be more clear  G_j   Jul-28-04 02:09 PM   #79 
           - While I think it was a poor choice  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 02:15 PM   #88 
  - While I don't favor causing her to be handcuffed nor taken out  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 01:44 PM   #60 
  - and how would her banner have damaged Kerry?  truthspeaker   Jul-28-04 01:47 PM   #62 
     - Simple. Are the democrats capable of ending the occupation now?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 01:50 PM   #63 
        - At the very least the blood wouldn't be on their hands.  CWebster   Jul-28-04 01:57 PM   #67 
        - Really? Did the New York Times admit they helped manufacture  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 01:59 PM   #68 
           - The NYTimes said they did not question the evidence  CWebster   Jul-28-04 02:02 PM   #71 
              - Not questioning evidence  redqueen   Jul-28-04 02:06 PM   #75 
              - So the fuck what? With their inaccurate reporting via Miller  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 02:08 PM   #78 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-28-04 02:17 PM   #92 
           - Nice personal attack  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 04:19 PM   #110 
  - Out of curiosity..do the Greens let Dems disrupt their conventions?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 01:55 PM   #65 
  - Why in the world was she allowed in?  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-28-04 02:03 PM   #73 
  - She supports Kerry  CWebster   Jul-28-04 02:04 PM   #74 
  - In post #69 you say she supports Kerry.  redqueen   Jul-28-04 02:07 PM   #76 
  - Oh I see. It's OK for a Green to disrupt on the floor of the Dem  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 02:10 PM   #81 
  - Who prevented you?  CWebster   Jul-28-04 02:12 PM   #85 
  - NO you clearly are  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 02:17 PM   #93 
  - How in the world does holding a sign disrupt the floor?  Classical_Liberal   Jul-28-04 02:13 PM   #86 
     - It was a violation of the media rules the convention agreed to  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 02:16 PM   #91 
        - and why did the Democrats agree to such rules?  Classical_Liberal   Jul-28-04 03:52 PM   #103 
        - It;s their convention and it is their right to set the rules for the  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 04:11 PM   #108 
           - I wonder if the majority of the delegates were offended.  bandera   Jul-28-04 04:32 PM   #113 
           - The democratic party doesn't get to decide it either, which is why  Classical_Liberal   Jul-28-04 07:07 PM   #119 
        - You didn't answer the question. How was that disruptive?  truthspeaker   Jul-28-04 04:00 PM   #106 
  - She supports Kerry in swing states. Cobb in safe states.  Classical_Liberal   Jul-28-04 02:12 PM   #83 
  - that was in 2000, read this letter  G_j   Jul-28-04 02:12 PM   #84 
     - Which is it?  redqueen   Jul-28-04 02:16 PM   #90 
        - that is only if one accepts the premise  G_j   Jul-28-04 02:23 PM   #97 
           - It is not the banner itself which hurts Kerry's chances of winning  redqueen   Jul-28-04 02:26 PM   #98 
              - unfortunately  G_j   Jul-28-04 02:38 PM   #100 
              - Her sign didn't chastise the dems. It chastised occupation  Classical_Liberal   Jul-28-04 04:00 PM   #105 
  - But 1)she advocates voting for Kerry 2)95% of the democratic delegates are  Classical_Liberal   Jul-28-04 02:10 PM   #80 
     - that is why I consider this a healthy Dem tradition n/t  G_j   Jul-28-04 02:18 PM   #95 
  - She was trying to remind the Democrats what we're supposed  bandera   Jul-28-04 04:28 PM   #111 
  - She got what she wanted...  Caliphoto   Jul-28-04 04:55 PM   #115 
     - AMEN  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-04 05:13 PM   #116 
     - she told you this? n/t  G_j   Jul-28-04 05:18 PM   #117 
 

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