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| 61. Education is anathema to fundamentalists |
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One thing almost all fundamentalists lack is the ability to think critically and to consider alternative points of view. This is one reason why they persist in denigrating the public school system- and disparaging higher education. People who complete their cognitive development are typically not fundies, unless they're in it for the power or for greed (they're also less susceptible to advertising and other crude means of persuasion).
So the key to fighting fundamentalists (as well as other afflictions on the body politic is education- not merely the compilation of facts, but learning the process- the ability to think in the abstract, use logic and apply it through experience. The famous cognitive psychologist Piaget called this final stage of development the "formal operational," and surprisingly enough, most studies indicate that only forty to sixty percent of American college students and adults ever fully achieve it.
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| -How do we stop the American (fundie Christian) Taliban? |
mandyky |
Jul-18-04 06:52 AM |
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"How do we stop the American (fundie Christian) Taliban?" |
Medialize |
Jul-18-04 06:56 AM |
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I know the fundies, as they are close to home here in the South. They |
morningglory |
Jul-18-04 07:50 AM |
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Bad idea! |
Warpy |
Jul-18-04 08:46 AM |
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Don't give them ideas. They already have states where doctors |
LittleApple81 |
Jul-18-04 09:16 AM |
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Well, to paraphrase Augustine: |
Arianrhod |
Jul-18-04 11:20 AM |
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We need a media that exposes all them. |
Cobalt Violet |
Jul-18-04 06:58 AM |
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Pass this link |
landdaddy |
Jul-18-04 09:23 AM |
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Thank you landdaddy |
Junebug1920 |
Jul-18-04 11:40 AM |
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I could quote Bush/Cheney/Rumsferatu... |
w13rd0 |
Jul-18-04 06:58 AM |
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Catch Them Actively Supporting Dimbo's Re-Selection |
Don_G |
Jul-18-04 07:00 AM |
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Amen to that |
MichiganVote |
Jul-18-04 07:23 PM |
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History has shown |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-18-04 07:01 AM |
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This is why their BS fantasy about 1000 years of peace after the Rapture |
leesa |
Jul-18-04 09:45 AM |
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Very good point. They are constantly splitting off from their churches. |
yardwork |
Jul-18-04 01:30 PM |
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I agree with you.. |
SemperEadem |
Jul-18-04 01:13 PM |
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There's only one way, end the two party system |
Walt Starr |
Jul-18-04 07:03 AM |
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How do you propose to do that?? |
Blue Wally |
Jul-18-04 08:50 AM |
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It's pretty simple |
Amarant |
Jul-18-04 01:27 PM |
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NO run-off elections |
kiahzero |
Jul-18-04 03:00 PM |
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So start supporting Condorcet voting |
kiahzero |
Jul-18-04 02:58 PM |
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Um, didn't the Weimar Republic have multiple parties? |
belle |
Jul-18-04 06:52 PM |
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Hmmm, seems the Republicans and Democrats are moving |
Walt Starr |
Jul-18-04 07:38 PM |
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Like all extremeists |
Gore1FL |
Jul-18-04 07:03 AM |
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Tell them God is dead and |
Snoggera |
Jul-18-04 07:03 AM |
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You are correct. |
RC |
Jul-18-04 09:14 AM |
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Watch for legislation in Congress that evicerates the Establishment Clause |
no_hypocrisy |
Jul-18-04 07:13 AM |
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Stand up to them |
wildeyed |
Jul-18-04 07:26 AM |
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You think like me, wildeyed! |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jul-18-04 08:11 AM |
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I think starting a local Unitarian church would |
mandyky |
Jul-18-04 08:18 AM |
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That's a great idea too. |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jul-18-04 08:23 AM |
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I love the Unitarian church |
wildeyed |
Jul-18-04 12:15 PM |
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Yep |
Moonbeam_Starlight |
Jul-18-04 04:08 PM |
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Me too! Also various interfaith organizations. |
belle |
Jul-18-04 06:54 PM |
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In my more mischievous moments, I envision |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-18-04 02:53 PM |
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Nice one, Lyd! |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jul-18-04 11:03 PM |
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I don't think that liberals are spineless and lazy (maybe complacent) |
yardwork |
Jul-18-04 01:35 PM |
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Not all, most |
wildeyed |
Jul-18-04 02:09 PM |
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This I agree with. |
belle |
Jul-18-04 06:53 PM |
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You will never stop them. |
Waverley_Hills_Hiker |
Jul-18-04 08:23 AM |
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"You will never stop them" |
Amarant |
Jul-18-04 01:44 PM |
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Shoot, I think they would move towards pushing arranged marriages |
hlthe2b |
Jul-18-04 09:07 AM |
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Doesn't surprise me at all |
Junebug1920 |
Jul-18-04 11:47 AM |
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I think that guy... |
w13rd0 |
Jul-18-04 12:50 PM |
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Tax 'em all! |
TankLV |
Jul-18-04 09:37 AM |
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Follow the MONEY! 'Faith-based vote-buying' often leaves tracks that ... |
AirAmFan |
Jul-18-04 11:16 AM |
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they don't want abortion and gays to be illegal (and/or just vanish) |
treepig |
Jul-18-04 11:51 AM |
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The Religious Left needs to make itself known in a big way |
prayforsane |
Jul-18-04 11:58 AM |
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Thats the problem... |
The Commie |
Jul-18-04 12:05 PM |
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They went Republican in 1972......... |
Blue Wally |
Jul-18-04 01:20 PM |
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The William Jennings Bryan Democrats were |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-18-04 02:58 PM |
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Democrats lost them in the early 1980's?????? |
amBushed |
Jul-18-04 03:35 PM |
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They were Dem in the Upper Midwest till later |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jul-18-04 06:59 PM |
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Toward that end |
wildeyed |
Jul-18-04 12:22 PM |
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I'm trying, man, I'm trying!!! |
Moonbeam_Starlight |
Jul-18-04 04:09 PM |
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Just keep educating people that you don't have to be fundamentalist |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jul-18-04 01:14 PM |
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we launch a war on fundieism |
leftofthedial |
Jul-18-04 01:46 PM |
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Err...point them to the teachings of Jesus ??!! (n/t) |
Atlanticist |
Jul-18-04 03:01 PM |
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Carve out a piece of our new "colony" |
Geo55 |
Jul-18-04 03:12 PM |
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jumpstart rapture |
jukes |
Jul-18-04 03:16 PM |
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Good question |
Moonbeam_Starlight |
Jul-18-04 03:44 PM |
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By the way, I'll tell you, through a story, how they get in power: |
Moonbeam_Starlight |
Jul-18-04 04:06 PM |
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A thought about an elective Bible course |
mandyky |
Jul-18-04 04:56 PM |
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Representative Republic |
Disturbed |
Jul-18-04 05:04 PM |
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GREAT story! Who on our side has that kind of passion, and how would our ... |
AirAmFan |
Jul-18-04 06:40 PM |
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The right answer would then be |
wildeyed |
Jul-18-04 07:06 PM |
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Right! Get rid of the hunkered-down bureaucrats, who fear expanding the party |
AirAmFan |
Jul-18-04 10:07 PM |
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Tell them to go amend their bibles |
RetroLounge |
Jul-18-04 04:58 PM |
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You do not "stop" them...you have to out scream them |
greekspeak |
Jul-18-04 05:00 PM |
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with the plain truth.... nt |
usregimechange |
Jul-18-04 05:01 PM |
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Support public education |
donhakman |
Jul-18-04 06:09 PM |
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Education is anathema to fundamentalists |
depakote_kid |
Jul-18-04 06:29 PM |
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BRING ON THE LIONS! |
mitchum |
Jul-18-04 07:29 PM |
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