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Response to Reply #200
206. So, what's wrong with going cold turkey?
Works well for other addictions.
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  -Democrats drop Antiwar pretensions tinanator  Jul-14-04 08:21 AM   #0 
  - Refusing immediate withdrawal = pro-war?  WilliamPitt   Jul-14-04 08:30 AM   #1 
  - Yeah, I read the same tripe yesterday....it's a weak argument.  liberal_veteran   Jul-14-04 08:35 AM   #3 
  - And how are we going to do more damage by leaving now?  MadHound   Jul-14-04 08:47 AM   #9 
  - That is why President Kerry should petition the UN for peacekeepers.  liberal_veteran   Jul-14-04 08:53 AM   #14 
     - No matter how stable a government is,  MadHound   Jul-14-04 08:59 AM   #19 
     - Apparently you don't understand the english language.  liberal_veteran   Jul-14-04 09:03 AM   #20 
        - Apparently you don't understand the nuances of others worldview  MadHound   Jul-14-04 09:13 AM   #22 
     - we are building seventeen military bases there, plus the biggest damn  Marianne   Jul-14-04 12:06 PM   #104 
        - Not to mention the activation of the IRR  Arianrhod   Jul-14-04 01:21 PM   #115 
  - that is typical arrogant American thinking,  jonnyblitz   Jul-14-04 08:52 AM   #13 
  - I agree it is a complicated issue - that's why shit like this article...  Selwynn   Jul-14-04 12:13 PM   #107 
  - Immediate withdrawl ---> civil war--> regional war ---> .........  Sinistrous   Jul-14-04 08:50 AM   #10 
  - It is absolutely amazing  MadHound   Jul-14-04 08:54 AM   #15 
  - change of direction is a political fact  apnu   Jul-14-04 09:35 AM   #29 
  - You may be correct, but it is still depressing  MadHound   Jul-14-04 09:44 AM   #41 
     - aye  apnu   Jul-14-04 10:06 AM   #60 
  - Exactly right. It's no longer "fashionable" to be anti-war  Kanary   Jul-14-04 09:40 AM   #33 
  - I do not share your pessimism.  Sinistrous   Jul-14-04 09:43 AM   #38 
     - And I don't share your hypocritical thinking skills  MadHound   Jul-14-04 09:57 AM   #50 
     - Not: "Fighting for Peace".  Sinistrous   Jul-14-04 10:25 AM   #75 
     - You blithely say "take away the looting"  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:29 AM   #80 
     - Yes. He has mentioned it at least once.  MiddleMen   Jul-15-04 11:58 AM   #181 
        - Thanks, MiddleMen  redqueen   Jul-15-04 02:49 PM   #195 
     - Sorry, but Kerry's corporate masters won't let him do that  MadHound   Jul-14-04 01:17 PM   #114 
        - Sorry, pal,  Sinistrous   Jul-15-04 08:37 AM   #157 
           - youre dreaming  tinanator   Jul-15-04 08:58 AM   #160 
           - I am not "comfortable with imperial aggression."  Sinistrous   Jul-15-04 09:42 AM   #161 
           - "Live with it". Or what?  MadHound   Jul-15-04 12:56 PM   #188 
              - I see your huff has arrived and you have gone off in it. LOL  Sinistrous   Jul-15-04 04:18 PM   #204 
                 - Is it really that naive friend, or is it the damning reality.  MadHound   Jul-15-04 04:45 PM   #207 
     - "fucking for virginity"  Nederland   Jul-14-04 10:26 AM   #76 
     - Nah, you patronizing attitude is "very cute"  U4ikLefty   Jul-14-04 10:55 AM   #95 
     - Response  Nederland   Jul-14-04 11:00 AM   #98 
        - You're right  redqueen   Jul-14-04 11:03 AM   #100 
        - Are you enlisting then?  greatauntoftriplets   Jul-14-04 11:36 AM   #102 
     - Gee, you suppose one hell of a lot  MadHound   Jul-14-04 01:23 PM   #116 
        - All I supposed  Nederland   Jul-14-04 04:02 PM   #130 
           - Horror of horrors that we use the arguements of pacifism  MadHound   Jul-14-04 04:31 PM   #133 
     - I had a zippo  JellyBean1   Jul-14-04 11:26 AM   #101 
     - Damage llike this can never be alleviated--never  Marianne   Jul-14-04 12:39 PM   #110 
        - Where are the pictures from Bosnia? n/t  redqueen   Jul-14-04 01:48 PM   #121 
           - Bosnia? Who is talking about Bosnia?  Marianne   Jul-14-04 02:06 PM   #124 
              - Well, we invaded Bosnia, which was no threat to us  redqueen   Jul-14-04 02:20 PM   #127 
                 - what does that have to do with Bush lying to invade Iraq?  Marianne   Jul-14-04 04:04 PM   #131 
                 - Did I say any of that?  redqueen   Jul-14-04 04:38 PM   #135 
                    - You have no idea whatsoever what people think about Bosnia because  Marianne   Jul-14-04 05:38 PM   #139 
                       - Can't you just read what I say?  redqueen   Jul-15-04 10:56 AM   #165 
                 - We never invaded Bosnia!  NoPasaran   Jul-14-04 04:37 PM   #134 
                 - Way to miss the point. n/t  redqueen   Jul-14-04 04:39 PM   #136 
                    - And what is your point?  NoPasaran   Jul-14-04 05:01 PM   #138 
                       - oh duh  redqueen   Jul-15-04 10:58 AM   #166 
                 - check out Joe Kubert's Fax from Sarajevo  tinanator   Jul-14-04 06:47 PM   #141 
                    - Thanks  redqueen   Jul-15-04 11:00 AM   #168 
  - please compare and contrast US policy in Haiti  tinanator   Jul-14-04 09:26 AM   #24 
     - Perhaps if you added a few more specifics,  Sinistrous   Jul-14-04 10:30 AM   #82 
        - on the one hand we stay to "stabilize"  tinanator   Jul-14-04 06:51 PM   #142 
           - "Prima facie ... sameness" betw Iraq & Haiti? Defend that. please.  Sinistrous   Jul-15-04 08:45 AM   #158 
              - invasion vs black op coup  tinanator   Jul-15-04 08:56 AM   #159 
                 - And if you draw the circle big enough,  Sinistrous   Jul-15-04 09:47 AM   #162 
  - Don't you understand?  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 09:20 AM   #23 
  - Power vacuum?  tinanator   Jul-14-04 09:27 AM   #25 
  - Ha Ha Ha  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 09:30 AM   #28 
  - A question friend  MadHound   Jul-14-04 09:28 AM   #27 
     - Learn from the mistakes of others?  redqueen   Jul-14-04 09:40 AM   #34 
     - Who's talking about puppet dictators?  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 09:45 AM   #42 
        - And I want world peace, food for the poor, clean water too...  redqueen   Jul-14-04 09:50 AM   #46 
        - Yeah, all those sound good  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 09:54 AM   #49 
           - So sorry I'm not playing by the rules  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:07 AM   #63 
        - Then you are looking for an Iraqi government  MadHound   Jul-14-04 09:58 AM   #51 
        - I think it's possible to set up a government  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 10:03 AM   #54 
           - That's almost a given, isnt' it?  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:10 AM   #64 
        - Let's see. The Iraqi government you are talking about...  tedthebear   Jul-14-04 10:11 PM   #152 
     - Vietnam isn't really applicable  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 09:44 AM   #39 
     - Vietnam is completely appicable  MadHound   Jul-14-04 10:12 AM   #66 
     - You're sort of right  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 10:23 AM   #70 
     - Correct. The analogy you are looking for is Lebanon.  eridani   Jul-14-04 11:08 PM   #155 
     - Historical Ignorance  Nederland   Jul-14-04 10:37 AM   # 
        - You're right of course  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:44 AM   #90 
        - Wrong  Amarant   Jul-14-04 01:07 PM   #111 
        - BZZZT! Wrong answer friend  MadHound   Jul-14-04 01:37 PM   #117 
        - I still think if we had gone in and done things 'right'  redqueen   Jul-14-04 01:42 PM   #118 
        - Response  Nederland   Jul-14-04 02:07 PM   #125 
           - *Sigh*  MadHound   Jul-14-04 02:19 PM   #126 
           - Oh I get it  Nederland   Jul-14-04 03:28 PM   #129 
              - Noriega, hah, that's a laugher friend  MadHound   Jul-14-04 04:44 PM   #137 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-14-04 06:43 PM   #140 
                 - Response  Nederland   Jul-15-04 10:52 AM   #163 
                    - Do you even read what you reference,  MadHound   Jul-15-04 01:12 PM   #189 
                       - Thanks  Nederland   Jul-15-04 02:24 PM   #193 
                          - The only thing I'm admitting friend  MadHound   Jul-15-04 02:38 PM   #194 
                             - I'll do this slow  Nederland   Jul-15-04 02:56 PM   #196 
                                - Like I said before friend, do you even read what you reference?  MadHound   Jul-15-04 03:15 PM   #199 
                                   - Now I understand  Nederland   Jul-15-04 04:09 PM   #203 
           - Can't help it, I'm buzzing in...  PassingFair   Jul-14-04 10:34 PM   #154 
              - Confusion  Nederland   Jul-15-04 10:58 AM   #167 
              - Oh GMAB  redqueen   Jul-15-04 11:09 AM   #169 
        - Japan retained its emperor and Germany was split in two  tinanator   Jul-14-04 06:55 PM   #143 
           - My point  Nederland   Jul-14-04 09:30 PM   #146 
              - happy to hear some more examples  tinanator   Jul-14-04 10:01 PM   #149 
                 - Panama  Nederland   Jul-15-04 10:54 AM   #164 
  - Yes, indeedy. If the war is illegal we must withdraw.  leesa   Jul-14-04 02:22 PM   #128 
  - wanna bet how long the US will stay there?  rman   Jul-14-04 04:25 PM   #132 
  - Kerplunk ....  Trajan   Jul-14-04 08:32 AM   #2 
  - I will worry about this after Kerry is elected  emulatorloo   Jul-14-04 08:35 AM   #4 
  - Yuppers, it is going to be the LBJ syndrome all over again  MadHound   Jul-14-04 08:36 AM   #5 
  - But I see it as taking baby steps: if we don't get ABB in, we have B. n/t  LittleApple81   Jul-14-04 08:37 AM   #6 
  - what about the baby parts?  tinanator   Jul-14-04 08:43 AM   #8 
  - We've been taking baby steps for decades now friend,  MadHound   Jul-14-04 08:50 AM   #11 
  - Indeed...  Nlighten1   Jul-14-04 08:58 AM   #18 
  - I would vote for Greens now if the situation weren't so dire. We fell  LittleApple81   Jul-14-04 09:10 AM   #21 
  - I'll tell ya, If Bush wasn't "the worst president ever"  G_j   Jul-14-04 09:36 AM   #31 
     - Dems should be THANKING bush  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:23 AM   #72 
        - in one sense it is so outlandishly absurd  G_j   Jul-14-04 10:45 AM   #92 
           - I'm close to the edge, friend  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:50 AM   #94 
              - I know  G_j   Jul-14-04 11:02 AM   #99 
                 - It's maddening  redqueen   Jul-14-04 01:47 PM   #120 
  - Exactly! Tailing after the middle drags us further off course  Right Makes Might   Jul-14-04 09:41 AM   #37 
  - It is interesting to note the biggest beneficiaries of campaign money  JellyBean1   Jul-14-04 12:34 PM   #109 
  - How many deaths in a baby step?  Kanary   Jul-14-04 09:46 AM   #43 
     - I understand Kanary. But we got the DNC,DLC candidate. And somebody  LittleApple81   Jul-14-04 10:00 AM   #53 
        - Crying doesn't stop it, does it?  Kanary   Jul-14-04 10:04 AM   #56 
           - When did I say you were a traitor to the party? I have been a VERY  LittleApple81   Jul-14-04 10:06 AM   #61 
              - Read your post #53  Kanary   Jul-14-04 10:12 AM   #65 
                 - It hit me this morning  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:15 AM   #68 
                 - Most people don't agree with Kucinich on the issues  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 10:24 AM   #74 
                 - Horse manure  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:28 AM   #79 
                    - Kerry didn't support the war  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 10:33 AM   #85 
                       - No, he didn't support the war  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:42 AM   #89 
                 - We didn't even have a primary. Hard to influence the Dem choice from  LittleApple81   Jul-14-04 10:26 AM   #77 
                    - Like we even had a choice  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:30 AM   #83 
                       - You got it Redqueen  JellyBean1   Jul-14-04 12:04 PM   #103 
                          - Exactly -- corporate cash has infected this country  redqueen   Jul-14-04 01:49 PM   #122 
                 - I agree with you. Infighting does not help. And that is what this  LittleApple81   Jul-14-04 10:30 AM   #81 
                    - All I ask is that you don't insult me.  Kanary   Jul-14-04 10:44 AM   #91 
  - especially if you think about it  tinanator   Jul-14-04 08:42 AM   #7 
  - Its a dickstrutting contest  CWebster   Jul-14-04 08:56 AM   #17 
  - Yep. You've got a choice between:  Cat Atomic   Jul-14-04 09:35 AM   #30 
     - More accurately  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 09:59 AM   #52 
  - the party has never claimed to be anti-war  Seth Gecko   Jul-14-04 08:51 AM   #12 
  - *NOW* we find that out....  Kanary   Jul-14-04 10:05 AM   #58 
     - Kerry never pretended to be against this war  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-15-04 11:28 AM   #173 
  - Swing voters are the most important now, CW says  redqueen   Jul-14-04 08:56 AM   #16 
  - I'm hangin' in tillwe get the white house and congress back then i'm  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-14-04 09:28 AM   #26 
  - which will give the country back to the Republicans...........  Blue Wally   Jul-14-04 09:40 AM   #32 
  - How so?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-14-04 09:40 AM   #36 
     - mathematics  Blue Wally   Jul-14-04 09:49 AM   #45 
        - what do you suggest?  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jul-14-04 09:52 AM   #48 
           - Do what the righties did with the Republican Party  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 10:04 AM   #57 
              - You have to make a "long march" ...........  Blue Wally   Jul-14-04 10:24 AM   #73 
                 - This is exactly right  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:35 AM   #87 
                 - OK, that we can agree on  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 10:37 AM   #88 
                    - I didn't say I wanted to go to the left  Blue Wally   Jul-14-04 10:47 AM   #93 
                    - That's something too many of us have forgotten  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:59 AM   #97 
                       - Not exactly  tinanator   Jul-14-04 07:07 PM   #145 
                          - Oh yes  redqueen   Jul-15-04 11:14 AM   #170 
                 - Nice Mao quote. When advocating similar strategies, I call it a  bigbillhaywood   Jul-14-04 10:08 PM   #151 
                    - When Mao........  Blue Wally   Jul-15-04 04:55 AM   #156 
  - I'm out too  Forkboy   Jul-14-04 01:46 PM   #119 
  - Who gets the white house and congress back?  Alpha Wolf   Jul-16-04 11:33 AM   #213 
  - Is it going to take the mothers and fathers of the soldiers  Mari333   Jul-14-04 09:40 AM   #35 
  - It seems that nobody cares what you, the familes of these soldiers, think  redqueen   Jul-14-04 09:44 AM   #40 
     - Who's playing?  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 09:48 AM   #44 
     - It's a game to the players  redqueen   Jul-14-04 09:51 AM   #47 
        - damn, I wish it wasn't so simple  G_j   Jul-14-04 10:03 AM   #55 
        - Speak for yourself (n/t)  kiahzero   Jul-14-04 10:05 AM   #59 
     - Seems like none of them care  Mari333   Jul-14-04 10:07 AM   #62 
        - No... just like Vietnam -- they'll shoot us, but the soldiers they NEED  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:13 AM   #67 
           - Like I said..its going to take the soldiers refusing and the parents  Mari333   Jul-14-04 10:23 AM   #71 
              - Definitely  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:26 AM   #78 
  - The Americans should leave Iraq NOW  whosinpower   Jul-14-04 10:19 AM   #69 
  - It's the OIL , stupid  Geo55   Jul-14-04 10:31 AM   #84 
  - Exactly. n/t  redqueen   Jul-14-04 10:34 AM   #86 
  - Without oil, most of us would die.  HypnoToad   Jul-15-04 02:11 PM   #191 
  - Don't mention the war - the "moderates" get upset.  bandera   Jul-14-04 10:59 AM   #96 
  - What a bunch of disingenuous bullshit  Selwynn   Jul-14-04 12:10 PM   #105 
  - Articles like this are self-defeating  redqueen   Jul-14-04 12:15 PM   #108 
     - Like Bush*, and all other extremists  sangh0   Jul-14-04 01:09 PM   #112 
        - Emotions  redqueen   Jul-14-04 01:50 PM   #123 
  - You bet! WAR! WAR! WE LOVE WAR!  LoZoccolo   Jul-14-04 12:10 PM   #106 
  - "drop"??  sangh0   Jul-14-04 01:13 PM   #113 
  - DEAR EVERYONE  GirlinContempt   Jul-14-04 06:57 PM   #144 
  - Fine but the real question is what Americans want in America  Suzi Creamcheese   Jul-14-04 09:41 PM   #147 
     - LMAO! Vote for Nader if you want four more years of BUSH!  redqueen   Jul-15-04 11:32 AM   #174 
  - If you are that much against the war, vote for Nader  Suzi Creamcheese   Jul-14-04 09:45 PM   # 
  - that would be like pissing up a wall  tinanator   Jul-14-04 10:05 PM   #150 
  - If you are that much against the war, vote for Nader  Suzi Creamcheese   Jul-14-04 09:45 PM   # 
  - If you are that much against the war, vote for Nader  Suzi Creamcheese   Jul-14-04 09:45 PM   #148 
  - OK Suzi, enough already!!!!  tedthebear   Jul-14-04 10:26 PM   #153 
  - Could you repeat that one more time?  Jacobin   Jul-15-04 11:15 AM   #171 
  - Given the Electronic Voting Scam...  VeteranforKerry   Jul-15-04 11:55 AM   #180 
  - We're in a Fix  VeteranforKerry   Jul-15-04 11:21 AM   #172 
  - This is the same claim they made in Viet Nam  CWebster   Jul-15-04 11:46 AM   #176 
  - No, it is not the same as Viet Nam at all  VeteranforKerry   Jul-15-04 11:53 AM   #178 
     - regional stability for what or for who?  CWebster   Jul-15-04 12:03 PM   #183 
     - Regional Stability so we can get affordable energy  VeteranforKerry   Jul-15-04 03:22 PM   #200 
        - So, what's wrong with going cold turkey?  bandera   Jul-15-04 04:32 PM   #206 
           - Countries don't go cold turkey  VeteranforKerry   Jul-16-04 10:17 AM   #209 
              - It's time to leave.  bandera   Jul-16-04 11:21 AM   #210 
                 - It is -not- time to leave Iraq.  VeteranforKerry   Jul-16-04 11:29 AM   #212 
                    - Why is being under UN control so frightening?  bandera   Jul-16-04 11:51 AM   #214 
     - But, it will end the same as Vietnam  bandera   Jul-15-04 12:22 PM   #186 
  - Oil for lives? Our baby?  bandera   Jul-15-04 12:17 PM   #185 
     - See post #191. We can't pull out...  HypnoToad   Jul-15-04 02:17 PM   #192 
        - Alternative energy? Sure. But, the price of oil is too high.  bandera   Jul-15-04 04:29 PM   #205 
  - Kerry and Edwards never had any "Antiwar pretensions"  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-15-04 11:37 AM   #175 
  - Oh I see,  CWebster   Jul-15-04 11:47 AM   #177 
     - No, but they don't disagree with him on 100% of issues  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-15-04 11:55 AM   #179 
        - Ahh yes  CWebster   Jul-15-04 12:01 PM   #182 
           - They never said that it was illegitimate  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-15-04 12:35 PM   #187 
              - So, does that make it legitimate?  bandera   Jul-15-04 01:46 PM   #190 
                 - What makes a war legitamate/illegitimate?  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-15-04 02:59 PM   #197 
                    - OMFG!  redqueen   Jul-15-04 03:03 PM   #198 
                    - He certanly is not on the level of Hitler  Freddie Stubbs   Jul-16-04 07:33 AM   #208 
                    - Actually, yes.  bandera   Jul-15-04 04:06 PM   #202 
  - democrats can't be out gung hoed  westsidexview   Jul-15-04 12:12 PM   #184 
  - Don't shoot 'em........  VeteranforKerry   Jul-15-04 03:23 PM   #201 
  - This is not surprising -- Welcome to Republican Lite  Alpha Wolf   Jul-16-04 11:28 AM   #211 
 

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