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F.Gordon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 12:24 PM
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131. Thanks for clearing that up
And actually, these millions of Americans were behind the Afghan war, because it was demonstrably provable that this is where Al Qaeda bases were, that war in Afghanistan was a just operation.

We went into Afghanistan to remove the Taliban from power. Where are the terrorists now? Still in Afghanistan and Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and Sudan and .......

You didn't see this? I did. When bush* removed economic sanctions on Pakistan, sent Rumsfeld into Pakistan and India to "trade" some military equipment, paid Pakistan a few bucks to let us blow the shit out of their "friends"...the Taliban....sneaked in a little 35 billion dollar contract for the JSF....you didn't see this as a sham?

ALL "war" is bad. But even you have found a way to qualify one but not another. After 9/11 the blood-lust that existed in this country would have allowed bush* to nuke California. If bush* had gotten his way, we would have gone into Iraq right after 9/11....then I suppose you'd be here justifying his actions.

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  -For the last time: Kerry DID NOT vote for war malatesta1137  Jul-12-04 09:00 AM   #0 
  - I am sorry, but because the repugs control congress, dems have  LittleApple81   Jul-12-04 09:03 AM   #1 
  - If boosh pushed us into war in violation of the IWR  Tansy_Gold   Jul-12-04 09:03 AM   #2 
  - And that was a damn foolish thing to do, wasn't it?  leesa   Jul-12-04 09:05 AM   #3 
  - my grandmother used to say that  malatesta1137   Jul-12-04 09:17 AM   #9 
  - How does this not make him overdue for impeachment?  porphyrian   Jul-12-04 09:06 AM   #4 
  - You have to have a majority in the House to impeach.  library_max   Jul-12-04 09:34 AM   #14 
     - In that regard  whosinpower   Jul-12-04 10:08 AM   #28 
        - Yeah.  library_max   Jul-12-04 10:31 AM   #43 
  - Playing devil's advocate:  mstrsplinter326   Jul-12-04 09:08 AM   #5 
  - thanks. I've been telling DUers this since January....and there are  amen1234   Jul-12-04 09:12 AM   #6 
  - Your right  HootieMcBoob   Jul-12-04 09:15 AM   #7 
  - Hindsight is twenty-twenty. /nt  library_max   Jul-12-04 09:35 AM   #15 
  - lol  LWolf   Jul-12-04 09:16 AM   #8 
  - Sorry, you can deny, spin or distort the truth as much as you wish  MadHound   Jul-12-04 09:18 AM   #10 
  - "despite the will of his constituents"  G_j   Jul-12-04 09:30 AM   #12 
  - And you were not the only constituent he heard from.  merh   Jul-12-04 10:46 AM   #60 
     - Exscuse me friend, but messages to all Senators and Reps  MadHound   Jul-12-04 11:47 AM   #113 
        - I hope you run for office soon, as you seem to be the  merh   Jul-12-04 12:15 PM   #129 
           - LOL friend, how am I as harmful as the fanatical repukes?  MadHound   Jul-12-04 12:48 PM   #138 
              - No, my expectations are not so low - but I realize how  merh   Jul-12-04 01:07 PM   #141 
                 - In other words, you are willing to give them a pass,  MadHound   Jul-12-04 01:32 PM   #144 
                 - The ones responsible for this are you and I and the others  merh   Jul-12-04 01:45 PM   #145 
                    - Such defeatist thinking, but there is hope  MadHound   Jul-12-04 02:15 PM   #147 
                       - You haven't a clue as to what I am doing, and since you are  merh   Jul-12-04 02:35 PM   #151 
                          - IE you are into giving passes to those  MadHound   Jul-12-04 02:49 PM   #152 
                 - The intelligence breakdown went like this:  mstrsplinter326   Jul-13-04 08:23 AM   #156 
  - I have some simple questions that I need you to address.  merh   Jul-12-04 09:31 AM   #13 
  - There are some obvious answers, ones that have been given to Kerry  MadHound   Jul-12-04 09:53 AM   #22 
     - You know, this crap about millions saw through the lies  merh   Jul-12-04 10:34 AM   #47 
        - These attempts at revisionist history are a disgrace  CWebster   Jul-12-04 10:38 AM   #49 
        - Your attempts to applaud your superiority mindset without  merh   Jul-12-04 11:08 AM   #83 
        - Thank you for making my point, in a round about way  MadHound   Jul-12-04 11:36 AM   #105 
  - you seem to be doing the spinning  malatesta1137   Jul-12-04 09:39 AM   #16 
  - And millions upon millions of people both in the US and worldwide  MadHound   Jul-12-04 10:01 AM   #25 
  - Right  HFishbine   Jul-12-04 10:39 AM   #50 
  - Did they?  motivated   Jul-12-04 10:58 AM   #75 
     - No, I'd say it was millions of ordinary Americans knew the IWR was a sham  MadHound   Jul-12-04 11:57 AM   #122 
        - Thanks for clearing that up  motivated   Jul-12-04 12:24 PM   #131 
           - You suppose a lot friend, yet have nothing but bluster to back it up  MadHound   Jul-12-04 12:56 PM   #139 
              - "bluster" is my middle name  motivated   Jul-12-04 01:09 PM   #142 
  - Hmmm...  Freya   Jul-12-04 10:22 AM   #36 
  - Who would have thought that hundreds of CIA analysts would lie also?  sangh0   Jul-13-04 10:10 AM   #160 
  - can you show me where in the resolution it says the President  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 10:36 AM   #48 
     - Seems pretty clear to me......  motivated   Jul-12-04 11:03 AM   #79 
        - there is nothing there that forces the president to prove his case for war  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 12:39 PM   #135 
  - I'd go further  GreenArrow   Jul-12-04 09:50 AM   #20 
  - Thank god, there are others that understand this ...  merh   Jul-12-04 09:24 AM   #11 
  - thank you!  malatesta1137   Jul-12-04 09:40 AM   #17 
     - I have also been reading the intelligence report  merh   Jul-12-04 10:17 AM   #32 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-12-04 09:42 AM   #18 
  - your radical thinking is the reason  malatesta1137   Jul-12-04 09:58 AM   #23 
     - IMO it was the resolution itself  G_j   Jul-12-04 10:06 AM   #27 
     - The majority of the people now think the war was a mistake.  bandera   Jul-12-04 10:25 AM   #39 
     - Yup Dean was right all along  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 10:45 AM   #58 
     - you fool  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 10:42 AM   #55 
  - let me just say  G_j   Jul-12-04 09:48 AM   #19 
  - Let me just say that the astute people at DU were not  merh   Jul-12-04 10:42 AM   #53 
     - let me just say that there were some very astute people in congress  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 10:47 AM   #62 
     - I am so glad you can say that and be so certain.  merh   Jul-12-04 11:21 AM   #95 
        - take it up with Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd Tom Harkin  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 12:41 PM   #136 
     - "Astute" leaders in France & Germany and our congress..  bandera   Jul-12-04 10:54 AM   #71 
     - Astute leaders in Germany and France were relying on their  merh   Jul-12-04 11:09 AM   #85 
     - as has been pointed out, Byrd and many others  G_j   Jul-12-04 10:57 AM   #74 
        - Hindsight is 20/20  merh   Jul-12-04 11:05 AM   #80 
           - sorry, here is the link  G_j   Jul-12-04 11:08 AM   #84 
              - I thought this was the same agent/officer that I had  merh   Jul-12-04 11:18 AM   #93 
                 - would it be too outrageous  G_j   Jul-12-04 11:23 AM   #96 
                    - You were not there -- how can you be so sure?  merh   Jul-12-04 11:30 AM   #101 
                       - If I remember correctly, at that time there were already CIA  G_j   Jul-12-04 11:40 AM   #108 
                          - Okay, fine, disgruntled employees - newspaper article  merh   Jul-12-04 11:49 AM   #116 
                             - big bloody red flags n/t  G_j   Jul-12-04 11:56 AM   #121 
                                - Yes, if I had been there, it would have been that way for me,  merh   Jul-12-04 12:12 PM   #128 
  - "AS A LAST RESORT"  CWebster   Jul-12-04 09:51 AM   #21 
  - Vote for Nader then  malatesta1137   Jul-12-04 10:00 AM   #24 
     - well that sure is ridiculous  G_j   Jul-12-04 10:11 AM   #30 
     - Its all they got  CWebster   Jul-12-04 10:20 AM   #33 
     - although I plan to vote for Kerry......  G_j   Jul-12-04 10:39 AM   #51 
     - Know what you mean  CWebster   Jul-12-04 10:43 AM   #56 
     - the truth is that Kerry  malatesta1137   Jul-12-04 10:43 AM   #57 
        - not true  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 10:51 AM   #67 
     - not cheap shot, it's called REALITY  malatesta1137   Jul-12-04 10:47 AM   #61 
        - The Kerry should offer an alternative  CWebster   Jul-12-04 10:48 AM   #63 
        - has Kerry said he will give us less war?  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 10:53 AM   #68 
        - No. Kerry's "plan" calls for more troops.  bandera   Jul-12-04 10:59 AM   #76 
        - Que the Imperial March music!!!  mstrsplinter326   Jul-13-04 10:06 AM   #159 
     - those are the only two choices in your opinion?  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 10:49 AM   #64 
        - Lol  CWebster   Jul-12-04 10:50 AM   #65 
  - Sorry, it is more fun to bash Dems who were lied to than to Bash Bush  emulatorloo   Jul-12-04 10:01 AM   #26 
  - sorry  G_j   Jul-12-04 10:15 AM   #31 
  - Oh I am paying attention  emulatorloo   Jul-12-04 10:27 AM   #41 
     - Third party is threat  CWebster   Jul-12-04 10:40 AM   #52 
     - I'd rather Kerry win than Bush  emulatorloo   Jul-12-04 10:51 AM   #66 
        - Fine  CWebster   Jul-12-04 10:54 AM   #70 
     - well I spend the majority of my time  G_j   Jul-12-04 10:46 AM   #59 
  - Really?  CWebster   Jul-12-04 10:22 AM   #38 
  - You can keep on believing that if you want to...  Hell Hath No Fury   Jul-12-04 10:10 AM   #29 
  - As a person  Freya   Jul-12-04 10:20 AM   #34 
  - Of course they voted for the war.  bandera   Jul-12-04 10:22 AM   #35 
  - I was a Dean Supporter, and I did not like Kerry's Vote  RetroLounge   Jul-12-04 10:22 AM   #37 
  - If the ticket was that great  CWebster   Jul-12-04 10:33 AM   #46 
  - I can't speak for anyone else  G_j   Jul-12-04 11:19 AM   #94 
     - Agree  Tina H   Jul-12-04 02:26 PM   #149 
  - They were duped, plain and simple.  lojasmo   Jul-12-04 10:26 AM   #40 
  - Ask yourself..  BeFree   Jul-12-04 11:00 AM   #77 
     - You forgot to mention that the pResident was Bush  CWebster   Jul-12-04 11:11 AM   #87 
     - Can you handle the truth?  BeFree   Jul-12-04 11:25 AM   #97 
     - "Political Reality"?  bandera   Jul-12-04 11:13 AM   #89 
     - Politics and honesty have no relationship  BeFree   Jul-12-04 11:28 AM   #99 
        - Political reality. 20,000 dead.  bandera   Jul-12-04 11:42 AM   #110 
           - "The one issue"  BeFree   Jul-12-04 11:52 AM   #118 
     - others didn't make that "mistake"  lojasmo   Jul-12-04 11:30 AM   #100 
        - Yes, some did the right thing  BeFree   Jul-12-04 11:44 AM   #111 
           - catastrophic might be preferable.  lojasmo   Jul-12-04 01:06 PM   #140 
  - "As a last resort"  latebloomer   Jul-12-04 10:28 AM   #42 
  - come on, he voted for the IRW  treepig   Jul-12-04 10:32 AM   # 
  - Of course he read the IWR...sheesh  BeFree   Jul-12-04 11:10 AM   #86 
  - He says he voted for a bill that never existed  TeacherCreature   Jul-12-04 10:32 AM   #44 
  - George Bush is a liar, true  Solly Mack   Jul-12-04 10:32 AM   #45 
  - I understand that, but  WI_DEM   Jul-12-04 10:42 AM   #54 
  - Sorry, but if little ole me  Kitka   Jul-12-04 10:53 AM   #69 
  - Has anyone informed Kerry of this?  Suzi Creamcheese   Jul-12-04 10:57 AM   #72 
  - Congratulations Mav...  Chicken George   Jul-12-04 01:10 PM   #143 
  - You will never convince the anti-Kerry/Edwards  molly   Jul-12-04 10:57 AM   #73 
  - I'm not anti-Kerry/Edwards  G_j   Jul-12-04 11:03 AM   #78 
  - That is a very idealistic outlook and I salute you  molly   Jul-12-04 11:06 AM   # 
     - in the spirit of getting rid of *  G_j   Jul-12-04 11:32 AM   #102 
  - Wrong. You will never convince the Anti-war people here.  bandera   Jul-12-04 11:06 AM   #81 
     - Wrong  BeFree   Jul-12-04 11:14 AM   #90 
     - Your definition of courage is at variance with reality.  bandera   Jul-12-04 11:25 AM   #98 
        - Telling for you, maybe  BeFree   Jul-12-04 11:33 AM   #104 
           - Single issue.  bandera   Jul-12-04 11:54 AM   #120 
              - In 1968 Nixon was installed, and  BeFree   Jul-12-04 12:09 PM   #127 
     - Thank you for admitting that you are not going to be swayed by the facts.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jul-12-04 12:31 PM   #133 
  - You're right. No one here will listen, though  jobycom   Jul-12-04 11:06 AM   #82 
  - Bull sh*t  Freya   Jul-12-04 11:51 AM   #117 
     - Right back at ya  jobycom   Jul-12-04 11:58 AM   #123 
  - You know, I find this just offensive  Eloriel   Jul-12-04 11:13 AM   #88 
  - Loathe?  BeFree   Jul-12-04 11:17 AM   #92 
  - You find the truth offensive?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jul-12-04 11:48 AM   #114 
     - This stands  Freya   Jul-12-04 11:59 AM   #124 
     - Your characterization is false.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jul-12-04 12:27 PM   #132 
     - Thanks, Feanorcurufinwe  BeFree   Jul-12-04 12:00 PM   #125 
  - I'm not sure what your motive is.  ibegurpard   Jul-12-04 11:15 AM   #91 
  - erm, as I recall,  ulysses   Jul-12-04 11:33 AM   #103 
  - "I've been fooled" is bushit  lojasmo   Jul-13-04 10:15 AM   #162 
  - Yes HE DID  sampsonblk   Jul-12-04 11:39 AM   #106 
  - and can anyone explain why  G_j   Jul-12-04 11:45 AM   #112 
  - No he didn't  jobycom   Jul-12-04 12:00 PM   #126 
  - How anyone can cram more stupid shit into just two paragraphs  Forkboy   Jul-12-04 11:40 AM   #107 
  - Damn, that just cracked me up! - n/t  porphyrian   Jul-12-04 12:15 PM   #130 
  - Kerry voted on the side of Congressional Republicans on IWR. He  RichM   Jul-12-04 11:42 AM   #109 
  - Precisely  Solly Mack   Jul-12-04 11:52 AM   #119 
  - The Congressional Republicans......  motivated   Jul-12-04 12:36 PM   #134 
  - Sorry but this spin is a bad bad idea  mondo joe   Jul-12-04 11:49 AM   #115 
  - It Doesn't Really Matter  KFC   Jul-12-04 12:45 PM   #137 
  - So will I.  malatesta1137   Jul-12-04 02:09 PM   #146 
  - For the last time: Kerry did vote for war. We all knew what was going  MrsGrumpy   Jul-12-04 02:20 PM   #148 
  - IWR was a piece of sh*t.  Buzzz   Jul-12-04 02:29 PM   #150 
  - Kerry Speech on Senate Floor before 2002 Iraq Resolution!!!  EndElectoral   Jul-12-04 02:50 PM   #153 
     - Thanks for this post!  merh   Jul-12-04 03:38 PM   #154 
     - Of course  malatesta1137   Jul-12-04 03:42 PM   #155 
        - "the Bush/Nader/Kucinich crowd "  G_j   Jul-13-04 08:42 AM   #157 
        - Innuendo is as innuendo does  sangh0   Jul-13-04 10:12 AM   #161 
        - that's all well and good.  ulysses   Jul-13-04 08:48 AM   #158 
 

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