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Mon Jul-12-04 10:01 AM
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| 25. And millions upon millions of people both in the US and worldwide |
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Saw through that sham, and knew exactly what Bush would do once he got the IWR through, go to war no matter what. Millions called upon their Congressmen and Senators, begging them not to vote for the IWR, for they knew what a sham it was. In fact messeges to the various Congressional members was running 280-1 against the IWR. Is it too much to ask of a Senator to due his A number 1 job and represent his constituents?
Sorry friend, that arguement just doesn't fly. If Kerry is that dumb to be taken in by Bush, when millions of ordinary Americans, who don't have the kind of access Kerry does, knew that the IWR was a sham, then quite frankly, the man is too dumb for the highest office in the land.
If Kerry cannot fulfill the primary requirement for his job, representing the will of his constituents, then he is not fit to be promoted.
Spin, distortion, and after the fact explanations cannot undo the reality of what Kerry did, which was authorize an illegal, immoral war. The best Kerry can do is to make amends for his mistake, yet he isn't even doing that. Instead, he calling for more money and more troops to be thrown into the fray, with only a vague promise of getting the troops home before the end of his first term. Sorry, but it seems to me that Kerry is still for this war.
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| -For the last time: Kerry DID NOT vote for war |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 09:00 AM |
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I am sorry, but because the repugs control congress, dems have |
LittleApple81 |
Jul-12-04 09:03 AM |
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If boosh pushed us into war in violation of the IWR |
Tansy_Gold |
Jul-12-04 09:03 AM |
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And that was a damn foolish thing to do, wasn't it? |
leesa |
Jul-12-04 09:05 AM |
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my grandmother used to say that |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 09:17 AM |
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How does this not make him overdue for impeachment? |
porphyrian |
Jul-12-04 09:06 AM |
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You have to have a majority in the House to impeach. |
library_max |
Jul-12-04 09:34 AM |
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In that regard |
whosinpower |
Jul-12-04 10:08 AM |
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Yeah. |
library_max |
Jul-12-04 10:31 AM |
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Playing devil's advocate: |
mstrsplinter326 |
Jul-12-04 09:08 AM |
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thanks. I've been telling DUers this since January....and there are |
amen1234 |
Jul-12-04 09:12 AM |
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Your right |
HootieMcBoob |
Jul-12-04 09:15 AM |
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Hindsight is twenty-twenty. /nt |
library_max |
Jul-12-04 09:35 AM |
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lol |
LWolf |
Jul-12-04 09:16 AM |
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Sorry, you can deny, spin or distort the truth as much as you wish |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 09:18 AM |
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"despite the will of his constituents" |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 09:30 AM |
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And you were not the only constituent he heard from. |
merh |
Jul-12-04 10:46 AM |
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Exscuse me friend, but messages to all Senators and Reps |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 11:47 AM |
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I hope you run for office soon, as you seem to be the |
merh |
Jul-12-04 12:15 PM |
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LOL friend, how am I as harmful as the fanatical repukes? |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 12:48 PM |
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No, my expectations are not so low - but I realize how |
merh |
Jul-12-04 01:07 PM |
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In other words, you are willing to give them a pass, |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 01:32 PM |
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The ones responsible for this are you and I and the others |
merh |
Jul-12-04 01:45 PM |
#145 |
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Such defeatist thinking, but there is hope |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 02:15 PM |
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You haven't a clue as to what I am doing, and since you are |
merh |
Jul-12-04 02:35 PM |
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IE you are into giving passes to those |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 02:49 PM |
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The intelligence breakdown went like this: |
mstrsplinter326 |
Jul-13-04 08:23 AM |
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I have some simple questions that I need you to address. |
merh |
Jul-12-04 09:31 AM |
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There are some obvious answers, ones that have been given to Kerry |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 09:53 AM |
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You know, this crap about millions saw through the lies |
merh |
Jul-12-04 10:34 AM |
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These attempts at revisionist history are a disgrace |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 10:38 AM |
#49 |
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Your attempts to applaud your superiority mindset without |
merh |
Jul-12-04 11:08 AM |
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Thank you for making my point, in a round about way |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 11:36 AM |
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you seem to be doing the spinning |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 09:39 AM |
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And millions upon millions of people both in the US and worldwide |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 10:01 AM |
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Right |
HFishbine |
Jul-12-04 10:39 AM |
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Did they? |
motivated |
Jul-12-04 10:58 AM |
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No, I'd say it was millions of ordinary Americans knew the IWR was a sham |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 11:57 AM |
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Thanks for clearing that up |
motivated |
Jul-12-04 12:24 PM |
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You suppose a lot friend, yet have nothing but bluster to back it up |
MadHound |
Jul-12-04 12:56 PM |
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"bluster" is my middle name |
motivated |
Jul-12-04 01:09 PM |
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Hmmm... |
Freya |
Jul-12-04 10:22 AM |
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Who would have thought that hundreds of CIA analysts would lie also? |
sangh0 |
Jul-13-04 10:10 AM |
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can you show me where in the resolution it says the President |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 10:36 AM |
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Seems pretty clear to me...... |
motivated |
Jul-12-04 11:03 AM |
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there is nothing there that forces the president to prove his case for war |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 12:39 PM |
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I'd go further |
GreenArrow |
Jul-12-04 09:50 AM |
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Thank god, there are others that understand this ... |
merh |
Jul-12-04 09:24 AM |
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thank you! |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 09:40 AM |
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I have also been reading the intelligence report |
merh |
Jul-12-04 10:17 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-12-04 09:42 AM |
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your radical thinking is the reason |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 09:58 AM |
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IMO it was the resolution itself |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 10:06 AM |
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The majority of the people now think the war was a mistake. |
bandera |
Jul-12-04 10:25 AM |
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Yup Dean was right all along |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 10:45 AM |
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you fool |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 10:42 AM |
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let me just say |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 09:48 AM |
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Let me just say that the astute people at DU were not |
merh |
Jul-12-04 10:42 AM |
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let me just say that there were some very astute people in congress |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 10:47 AM |
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I am so glad you can say that and be so certain. |
merh |
Jul-12-04 11:21 AM |
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take it up with Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd Tom Harkin |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 12:41 PM |
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"Astute" leaders in France & Germany and our congress.. |
bandera |
Jul-12-04 10:54 AM |
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Astute leaders in Germany and France were relying on their |
merh |
Jul-12-04 11:09 AM |
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as has been pointed out, Byrd and many others |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 10:57 AM |
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Hindsight is 20/20 |
merh |
Jul-12-04 11:05 AM |
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sorry, here is the link |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 11:08 AM |
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I thought this was the same agent/officer that I had |
merh |
Jul-12-04 11:18 AM |
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would it be too outrageous |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 11:23 AM |
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You were not there -- how can you be so sure? |
merh |
Jul-12-04 11:30 AM |
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If I remember correctly, at that time there were already CIA |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 11:40 AM |
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Okay, fine, disgruntled employees - newspaper article |
merh |
Jul-12-04 11:49 AM |
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big bloody red flags n/t |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 11:56 AM |
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Yes, if I had been there, it would have been that way for me, |
merh |
Jul-12-04 12:12 PM |
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"AS A LAST RESORT" |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 09:51 AM |
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Vote for Nader then |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 10:00 AM |
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well that sure is ridiculous |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 10:11 AM |
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Its all they got |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 10:20 AM |
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although I plan to vote for Kerry...... |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 10:39 AM |
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Know what you mean |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 10:43 AM |
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the truth is that Kerry |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 10:43 AM |
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not true |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 10:51 AM |
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not cheap shot, it's called REALITY |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 10:47 AM |
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The Kerry should offer an alternative |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 10:48 AM |
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has Kerry said he will give us less war? |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 10:53 AM |
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No. Kerry's "plan" calls for more troops. |
bandera |
Jul-12-04 10:59 AM |
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Que the Imperial March music!!! |
mstrsplinter326 |
Jul-13-04 10:06 AM |
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those are the only two choices in your opinion? |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 10:49 AM |
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Lol |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 10:50 AM |
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Sorry, it is more fun to bash Dems who were lied to than to Bash Bush |
emulatorloo |
Jul-12-04 10:01 AM |
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sorry |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 10:15 AM |
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Oh I am paying attention |
emulatorloo |
Jul-12-04 10:27 AM |
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Third party is threat |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 10:40 AM |
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I'd rather Kerry win than Bush |
emulatorloo |
Jul-12-04 10:51 AM |
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Fine |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 10:54 AM |
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well I spend the majority of my time |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 10:46 AM |
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Really? |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 10:22 AM |
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You can keep on believing that if you want to... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Jul-12-04 10:10 AM |
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As a person |
Freya |
Jul-12-04 10:20 AM |
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Of course they voted for the war. |
bandera |
Jul-12-04 10:22 AM |
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I was a Dean Supporter, and I did not like Kerry's Vote |
RetroLounge |
Jul-12-04 10:22 AM |
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If the ticket was that great |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 10:33 AM |
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I can't speak for anyone else |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 11:19 AM |
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Agree |
Tina H |
Jul-12-04 02:26 PM |
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They were duped, plain and simple. |
lojasmo |
Jul-12-04 10:26 AM |
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Ask yourself.. |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 11:00 AM |
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You forgot to mention that the pResident was Bush |
CWebster |
Jul-12-04 11:11 AM |
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Can you handle the truth? |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 11:25 AM |
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"Political Reality"? |
bandera |
Jul-12-04 11:13 AM |
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Politics and honesty have no relationship |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 11:28 AM |
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Political reality. 20,000 dead. |
bandera |
Jul-12-04 11:42 AM |
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"The one issue" |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 11:52 AM |
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others didn't make that "mistake" |
lojasmo |
Jul-12-04 11:30 AM |
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Yes, some did the right thing |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 11:44 AM |
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catastrophic might be preferable. |
lojasmo |
Jul-12-04 01:06 PM |
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"As a last resort" |
latebloomer |
Jul-12-04 10:28 AM |
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come on, he voted for the IRW |
treepig |
Jul-12-04 10:32 AM |
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Of course he read the IWR...sheesh |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 11:10 AM |
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He says he voted for a bill that never existed |
TeacherCreature |
Jul-12-04 10:32 AM |
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George Bush is a liar, true |
Solly Mack |
Jul-12-04 10:32 AM |
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I understand that, but |
WI_DEM |
Jul-12-04 10:42 AM |
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Sorry, but if little ole me… |
Kitka |
Jul-12-04 10:53 AM |
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Has anyone informed Kerry of this? |
Suzi Creamcheese |
Jul-12-04 10:57 AM |
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Congratulations Mav... |
Chicken George |
Jul-12-04 01:10 PM |
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You will never convince the anti-Kerry/Edwards |
molly |
Jul-12-04 10:57 AM |
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I'm not anti-Kerry/Edwards |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 11:03 AM |
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That is a very idealistic outlook and I salute you |
molly |
Jul-12-04 11:06 AM |
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in the spirit of getting rid of * |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 11:32 AM |
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Wrong. You will never convince the Anti-war people here. |
bandera |
Jul-12-04 11:06 AM |
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Wrong |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 11:14 AM |
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Your definition of courage is at variance with reality. |
bandera |
Jul-12-04 11:25 AM |
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Telling for you, maybe |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 11:33 AM |
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Single issue. |
bandera |
Jul-12-04 11:54 AM |
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In 1968 Nixon was installed, and |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 12:09 PM |
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Thank you for admitting that you are not going to be swayed by the facts. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Jul-12-04 12:31 PM |
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You're right. No one here will listen, though |
jobycom |
Jul-12-04 11:06 AM |
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Bull sh*t |
Freya |
Jul-12-04 11:51 AM |
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Right back at ya |
jobycom |
Jul-12-04 11:58 AM |
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You know, I find this just offensive |
Eloriel |
Jul-12-04 11:13 AM |
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Loathe? |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 11:17 AM |
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You find the truth offensive? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Jul-12-04 11:48 AM |
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This stands |
Freya |
Jul-12-04 11:59 AM |
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Your characterization is false. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Jul-12-04 12:27 PM |
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Thanks, Feanorcurufinwe |
BeFree |
Jul-12-04 12:00 PM |
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I'm not sure what your motive is. |
ibegurpard |
Jul-12-04 11:15 AM |
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erm, as I recall, |
ulysses |
Jul-12-04 11:33 AM |
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"I've been fooled" is bushit |
lojasmo |
Jul-13-04 10:15 AM |
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Yes HE DID |
sampsonblk |
Jul-12-04 11:39 AM |
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and can anyone explain why |
G_j |
Jul-12-04 11:45 AM |
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No he didn't |
jobycom |
Jul-12-04 12:00 PM |
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How anyone can cram more stupid shit into just two paragraphs |
Forkboy |
Jul-12-04 11:40 AM |
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Damn, that just cracked me up! - n/t |
porphyrian |
Jul-12-04 12:15 PM |
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Kerry voted on the side of Congressional Republicans on IWR. He |
RichM |
Jul-12-04 11:42 AM |
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Precisely |
Solly Mack |
Jul-12-04 11:52 AM |
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The Congressional Republicans...... |
motivated |
Jul-12-04 12:36 PM |
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Sorry but this spin is a bad bad idea |
mondo joe |
Jul-12-04 11:49 AM |
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It Doesn't Really Matter |
KFC |
Jul-12-04 12:45 PM |
#137 |
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So will I. |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 02:09 PM |
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For the last time: Kerry did vote for war. We all knew what was going |
MrsGrumpy |
Jul-12-04 02:20 PM |
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IWR was a piece of sh*t. |
Buzzz |
Jul-12-04 02:29 PM |
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Kerry Speech on Senate Floor before 2002 Iraq Resolution!!! |
EndElectoral |
Jul-12-04 02:50 PM |
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Thanks for this post! |
merh |
Jul-12-04 03:38 PM |
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Of course |
malatesta1137 |
Jul-12-04 03:42 PM |
#155 |
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"the Bush/Nader/Kucinich crowd " |
G_j |
Jul-13-04 08:42 AM |
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Innuendo is as innuendo does |
sangh0 |
Jul-13-04 10:12 AM |
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that's all well and good. |
ulysses |
Jul-13-04 08:48 AM |
#158 |
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