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  Plame indictments.....Thread 3 newyawker99  Jul-06-04 02:40 PM   #0 
   kick  ModeratorDU Moderator   Jul-06-04 02:43 PM   #1 
   Didn't make it as the first entry this time  shraby   Jul-06-04 02:48 PM   #2 
   Been working all day,  Political_Junkie   Jul-06-04 02:58 PM   #4 
      Gephardt could be a good  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 03:02 PM   #6 
      I agree wholeheartedly,  Political_Junkie   Jul-06-04 03:54 PM   #21 
      It's not shallow  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 04:17 PM   #28 
         H2O Man, I meant  Political_Junkie   Jul-06-04 05:09 PM   #32 
         Not capable? It's almost as if Dems were ordered to lay back  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 08:31 PM   #59 
      Agree. GH is great on trade tough.  kohodog   Jul-06-04 10:06 PM   #83 
      Good thing you weren't up early enough for the post headline.  Bleachers7   Jul-07-04 12:28 AM   #129 
         I was!  Political_Junkie   Jul-07-04 05:46 AM   #158 
   Didn't get in as first poster to this one,  shraby   Jul-06-04 02:49 PM   #3 
   Back to the Plame treason....  shraby   Jul-06-04 03:03 PM   #7 
   I nominate this MOD for the Nobel of Mods Award.  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 08:27 PM   #58 
   Thread #3! I was up WAY late with the last one.  calimary   Jul-06-04 03:00 PM   #5 
   Not if Rove and Cheney are the ones  kgfnally   Jul-06-04 03:12 PM   #10 
   KGFNALLY - I strongly suspect he's dyslexic. the statements  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 09:16 PM   #67 
      Gosh, I had considered that a long time ago,  kgfnally   Jul-06-04 09:25 PM   #72 
      Bush and fuzzy speech  azmesa207   Jul-06-04 10:01 PM   #80 
   Good question ....  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 03:30 PM   #14 
      If Cheney did tell Bush, this still puts  shraby   Jul-06-04 03:40 PM   #16 
      WHy weren't they smarter about it? I'll bet it's because they got spoiled.  calimary   Jul-06-04 04:00 PM   #23 
      This is very important:  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 04:12 PM   #26 
         One rule of secrecy is to keep the circle small.  alfredo   Jul-06-04 06:35 PM   #37 
         Isn't there a Benjamin Franklin quote  legolassie   Jul-06-04 07:14 PM   #44 
            Old CIA rule  hansolsen   Jul-06-04 10:03 PM   #82 
            Or in the case of the guys I worked with,  alfredo   Jul-07-04 12:21 AM   #125 
         They felt like they could control any investigation  dansolo   Jul-07-04 10:49 AM   #169 
      Right - accessory after the fact  swag   Jul-06-04 05:57 PM   #35 
      Novak has been the GOP media mouthpiece for YEARS. so that  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 09:10 PM   #66 
      That is exactly how he got Gov. Ryan  steviet_2003   Jul-06-04 03:43 PM   #17 
      STEVIET - you're a treasure. great links - educating! n/t  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 09:29 PM   #73 
      Rove is no more than an order taker and campaign guru..  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 04:07 PM   #24 
         Yes, but  ewagner   Jul-06-04 05:53 PM   #34 
         Seems to me  Political_Junkie   Jul-06-04 06:49 PM   #39 
         Look at it this way..  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 07:55 PM   #48 
         Sounds logical to me.  Political_Junkie   Jul-06-04 08:18 PM   #55 
         I believe pecking order was used as the gauge rather than suitability...  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 09:21 PM   #71 
         I believe it was suppose to be Jeb  OhMyGod   Jul-07-04 02:47 AM   #149 
         I agree with this part 100% !  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 10:12 PM   #85 
         No Pallas...thats not it...  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 11:39 PM   #113 
         This is a MOST intriguing analysis.  calimary   Jul-07-04 08:33 PM   #189 
            Thanks, calimary...Have you noticed how they're letting Cheney slide..  Tellurian   Jul-07-04 09:40 PM   #195 
            That means we have a fight in our hands....  spokane   Jul-07-04 11:42 PM   #203 
            He already tried that Carlyle Group thing  starroute   Jul-08-04 01:18 AM   #210 
            My recent posts concerning Carlyle...  Tellurian   Jul-08-04 01:47 AM   #214 
            He already worked for Carlyle. They fired him for being a jerk.  Pallas180   Jul-08-04 02:14 AM   #218 
         Apparently Poppy  burrowowl   Jul-06-04 08:16 PM   #54 
            Did he?  Political_Junkie   Jul-06-04 08:19 PM   #56 
            Nor did I, now thats a surprised, axe coming down already...hmm n/t  spokane   Jul-07-04 11:44 PM   #204 
            There was some discussion about Poppy resigning from Carlyle..  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 10:15 PM   #86 
            Thanks, Tellurian,  Political_Junkie   Jul-07-04 05:52 AM   #159 
            And if he didn't resign and is still getting  Kool Kitty   Jul-07-04 01:33 AM   #139 
         It appears what has happend is once they turned Bush on, they can't  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 06:56 PM   #41 
         TELLURIAN - bzzzz - no cigar. doughboy is an integral part  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 09:53 PM   #77 
            Bush1 has great respect for Wilson.  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 10:24 PM   #89 
            Something changed all of that... otherwise Plame would never have been  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 10:40 PM   #95 
            Tellurian, It was Wilson who went to Niger, not his wife. What  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 11:05 PM   #105 
               Pallas180, are you being deliberately obtuse...  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 11:25 PM   #108 
                  Patience Tellurian. I'm a very literal person, not obtuse. smile.  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 11:31 PM   #110 
                     Pallas, you know about my cigar phobia...I mentioned it last night..  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 11:43 PM   #114 
            Allen Dulles may be Bush Sr.'s original link to the CIA  starroute   Jul-07-04 12:21 AM   #126 
               Starroute - thanks - invaluable info - what a web - these  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 12:37 AM   #131 
                  Prescott Bush, not quite that bad -- Allen Dulles, definitely  starroute   Jul-07-04 01:51 AM   #142 
                  The CIA/Washington Post connection is also part of the story  starroute   Jul-07-04 02:08 AM   #144 
                  Prior to CIA it was the OSS - my uncle, now dead, was in it  Pallas180   Jul-08-04 02:30 AM   #219 
                  Prescott Bush, Auschwitz slave labor,  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 02:32 AM   #146 
            I dislike cigars for personal reasons...no big whoop..  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 10:27 PM   #90 
            Tellurian....Bzzzz no cigar is a reference to one of the first  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 11:46 PM   #115 
               The duck dropped in if the guest said the "secret word".  TacticalPeak   Jul-06-04 11:58 PM   #118 
                  Thanks for clarification, TP..  Tellurian   Jul-07-04 12:12 AM   #123 
                  Tactical - - secret word - gave me a good chuckle  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 12:24 AM   #127 
                     You bet your life.  TacticalPeak   Jul-07-04 12:41 AM   #132 
            Read this...It points to Cheney... but even Cheney wouldn't breech  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 10:57 PM   #102 
               The link works for me Pallas..however..I've posted the substance ennyway..  Tellurian   Jul-07-04 12:05 AM   #120 
   Like to know about Bu$h  burrowowl   Jul-06-04 03:06 PM   #8 
   News tonite : Lehman of the 911 commission is in running for CIA chief  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 10:20 PM   #88 
      Interesting  burrowowl   Jul-06-04 10:38 PM   #94 
   Anyone know if this is correct?  seemslikeadream   Jul-06-04 03:08 PM   #9 
   According to an article by Mike Ruppert and Wayne Madsen,(ExPriv)  Zorra   Jul-06-04 09:10 PM   #65 
      But will they?  burrowowl   Jul-07-04 12:28 AM   #128 
   Why is the media not giving the Plame case any attention? n/t  Tight_rope   Jul-06-04 03:16 PM   #11 
   you expect "journalism" from the corporate media cabal?  cthrumatrix   Jul-06-04 03:18 PM   #12 
   I just finished reading "OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD"!  Tight_rope   Jul-08-04 01:10 AM   #209 
   It's their job not to give the Plame  shraby   Jul-06-04 03:20 PM   #13 
   The grand jury investigating the crimes  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 03:33 PM   #15 
   So is everything that's connected to the GJ investigation  kgfnally   Jul-06-04 03:45 PM   #18 
   Three people have discussed it publicly:  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 03:53 PM   #20 
      Thanks.  kgfnally   Jul-06-04 06:06 PM   #36 
      If you purchase Joe's tell all book...  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 08:07 PM   #51 
         It's a great book.  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 08:10 PM   #53 
      But, why out of the three is "Primary Colors" Joe Klein believable to have  KoKo01   Jul-06-04 07:39 PM   #47 
         I'm curious what you mean by:  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 07:58 PM   #50 
            Your post about Joseph Wilson, John Dean and Joe Klein. Post # 20?  KoKo01   Jul-06-04 08:50 PM   #63 
               I see....  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 09:10 PM   #64 
                  I've often noticed that myself.  kgfnally   Jul-06-04 09:17 PM   #69 
                  There was a brief stream like that from Frank Luntz (eww) on Hardball.  TacticalPeak   Jul-06-04 10:29 PM   #91 
                     Frank looked truly afraid  redstateliberal   Jul-07-04 09:05 AM   #160 
                  Tidbits are often revealing, I agree. But, if you look at Buchanan you  KoKo01   Jul-06-04 09:34 PM   #74 
                     Good... I like what you are saying....  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 09:56 PM   #79 
                     Dean's info might be the most unbiased & reliable-Disinformation abounds o  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 10:34 PM   #93 
   Of course GJ secrecy never stopped the whores...  amBushed   Jul-06-04 04:11 PM   #25 
      Public consumption .....  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 04:25 PM   #30 
   There's Nothing to Report On, Yet  Beetwasher   Jul-06-04 03:49 PM   #19 
   look at all the news about Michael Jackson when there's nothing to report  rman   Jul-07-04 03:10 AM   #150 
   Too busy looking for their balls  hansolsen   Jul-06-04 10:15 PM   #87 
   Nominate this thread!  kohodog   Jul-06-04 03:58 PM   #22 
   Will the prosecutor hold off on indictments until after Nov?  amBushed   Jul-06-04 04:15 PM   #27 
   I would say, deals are being discussed as we type..  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 04:22 PM   #29 
   "Worse than Watergate" pgs 173-174  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 05:15 PM   #33 
      Ashcroft lied at the 911 comm but I dont remember if he was under oath-  Pallas180   Jul-06-04 11:29 PM   #109 
   He's a prosecutor who apparently has  shraby   Jul-06-04 04:30 PM   #31 
      Cheney/CIA  Disturbed   Jul-06-04 06:42 PM   #38 
         Disturbed, I agree with you  Political_Junkie   Jul-06-04 06:56 PM   #42 
         Keep in mind, there may well be a whole other layer of malfeasance here...  scarletwoman   Jul-06-04 07:58 PM   #49 
         Thank you, Scarletwoman!  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 08:09 PM   #52 
         Well, it's thanks to YOU, that this point was brought up originally!  scarletwoman   Jul-06-04 08:25 PM   #57 
            Yes.....  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 08:39 PM   #61 
         Glad you gave link to first thread  burrowowl   Jul-06-04 08:39 PM   #60 
         Kevin's "American Dynasty"  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 08:49 PM   #62 
            Wealth and Democracy  burrowowl   Jul-06-04 09:38 PM   #75 
            Thanks!  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 10:02 PM   #81 
            I agree, H2O Man. I think DU has the makings of a GREAT think tank.  calimary   Jul-07-04 09:20 PM   #191 
         Scarletwoman's post: the finger would point at Halliburton & Bechtel  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 01:27 AM   #138 
         Oh, MAN! Your speculation about "the FINANCIAL end of things" just  calimary   Jul-07-04 09:18 PM   #190 
            Yup. Bush = Money Laundering 'R' Us.  scarletwoman   Jul-07-04 11:44 PM   #205 
         Disturbed - "Treason &/or Sytematic Prison Torture (Secret Conc. Camps"  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 12:58 AM   #135 
   I've heard tell that Rove does not like Cheney  Ugnmoose   Jul-06-04 06:54 PM   #40 
   I would love to see  fedupwithbush   Jul-06-04 07:04 PM   #43 
   More research  Disturbed   Jul-06-04 07:35 PM   #46 
      I've read that time after time, Cheney PERSONALLY visited CIA...  Crachet2004   Jul-07-04 09:33 AM   #162 
   Two articles ignored in today's hooplah, describe much about Bushies  KoKo01   Jul-06-04 07:34 PM   #45 
   "Work-up" on Wilson  TacticalPeak   Jul-06-04 09:16 PM   #68 
   H2O, is it reasonable to believe......  tableturner   Jul-06-04 09:18 PM   #70 
   I'm not sure how to answer that.  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 09:45 PM   #76 
      What Wilson and his wife know.  Disturbed   Jul-06-04 09:55 PM   #78 
      Plame knows something  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 10:10 PM   #84 
         Republicans  Disturbed   Jul-06-04 10:32 PM   #92 
         I can see by the earlier threads that  shraby   Jul-06-04 10:55 PM   #101 
         Part of it is: the more bushco did over time, the worse it got.  TacticalPeak   Jul-06-04 11:23 PM   #106 
         One crucial point was when momentum switched from Dean to Kerry  starroute   Jul-07-04 12:57 AM   #134 
         Who'd ever thunk it...CIA the good guys?  kohodog   Jul-06-04 11:05 PM   #104 
         I've noticed something in how the Bush crew looks nowadays....  tableturner   Jul-06-04 10:47 PM   #96 
         *'s "defense"  xocolatl   Jul-06-04 10:50 PM   #98 
         I believe indictments will be far ranging  Ugnmoose   Jul-06-04 10:49 PM   #97 
         If what UGNMOOSE thinks is true, we may never know and it  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 02:07 AM   #143 
         Remember the Nixon tapes?  Ugnmoose   Jul-07-04 10:09 AM   #164 
         She did not die in a plane crash. That was E. Howard Hunt's wife, Dorothy.  TacticalPeak   Jul-07-04 10:32 AM   #165 
            Thanks Tactical. Didn't he committ her or something?  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 01:25 PM   #172 
         Do you suppose that Tenet is the "high level official" who turned?  calimary   Jul-07-04 09:47 PM   #196 
         H20man for president!  kohodog   Jul-06-04 10:51 PM   #99 
         hah-ha-ha-ha!!!  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 11:23 PM   #107 
            H20  shraby   Jul-06-04 11:37 PM   #112 
            *blink*  kgfnally   Jul-07-04 12:01 AM   #119 
         What Plame may know more about - go to post 138  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 01:49 AM   #141 
         H2O- you never commented (that I saw)  RainDog   Jul-07-04 04:09 AM   #157 
      D'Amato has been out of it for awhile. Senile? Bush would never  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 12:17 AM   #124 
   What is the Plame indictments  mdmc   Jul-06-04 10:54 PM   #100 
   Click your way back to  shraby   Jul-06-04 10:58 PM   #103 
      Don't forget that Pavitt also quit.  shraby   Jul-06-04 11:32 PM   #111 
         shraby, how long did it take for Olson to remarry?  Tellurian   Jul-06-04 11:50 PM   #116 
         I haven't followed Olson  shraby   Jul-07-04 01:14 AM   #137 
         There is serious discussions  H2O Man   Jul-06-04 11:51 PM   #117 
         whats goin on?  mdmc   Jul-07-04 12:09 AM   #121 
         Perhaps the ones with a little honor left should be given quarter.  TacticalPeak   Jul-07-04 12:10 AM   #122 
         What do you see as the significance of Bush being interviewed  lancdem   Jul-07-04 10:47 AM   #168 
         Me too. What I want to know is does Olson have ANY place  Eloriel   Jul-07-04 12:49 AM   #133 
            Here is where he fits in  shraby   Jul-07-04 01:36 AM   #140 
            Olson - this is my guess. He announced resignation after dimson saw a crim  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 02:18 AM   #145 
               What's Baker doing right now?  shraby   Jul-07-04 02:35 AM   #147 
                  he's representing Saudi Arabia against the 9/11 widows - isn't  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 03:18 AM   #153 
   Haven't posted since early  ewagner   Jul-07-04 12:37 AM   #130 
   I think you're exactly right. Same conclusion I came to in post  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 03:33 AM   #154 
      Good questions  ewagner   Jul-07-04 09:10 AM   #161 
   inspired by h20 heres what i wrote to ny times, wash post.  faithnotgreed   Jul-07-04 01:10 AM   #136 
   Good letter faithnotgreed  shraby   Jul-07-04 02:36 AM   #148 
   thank you so much. i had to write something and its so sad how much  faithnotgreed   Jul-07-04 03:12 AM   #151 
      An investigative reporter would do well to  shraby   Jul-07-04 03:47 AM   #155 
         "the story of the century" indeed! wheres bob woodward?  faithnotgreed   Jul-07-04 07:16 PM   #185 
         Joe Conason of The Obserber would be a good one to send it to.  Pallas180   Jul-08-04 02:37 AM   #220 
   How the US Marines were used by Corporations in the 20th Century  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 03:12 AM   #152 
   Thanks for posting that.  Disturbed   Jul-07-04 03:51 AM   #156 
   Here's more background on that Smedley Butler quote  starroute   Jul-07-04 10:42 AM   #167 
      STAR - EXCELLENT info even if disgusting. Thanks. US Imperialism  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 01:40 PM   #173 
         Domestic oil reserves have been a source of corruption as well  starroute   Jul-07-04 02:59 PM   #178 
   How are they getting away with this?  arbustochupa   Jul-07-04 10:03 AM   #163 
   Repubican Senate, Republican House  bigskydem   Jul-07-04 10:38 AM   #166 
      There has to more to it than that.  arbustochupa   Jul-07-04 11:25 AM   #170 
      this is what I'm talking about  arbustochupa   Jul-07-04 12:39 PM   #171 
         The Dems have been trying to  shraby   Jul-07-04 01:48 PM   #174 
         Why don't more of them do what Waxman did?  arbustochupa   Jul-07-04 01:59 PM   #176 
         THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO & CAN DO: from yr link above  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 01:56 PM   #175 
            Now THAT is more like it!! Woo-hoo! BLESS you, Pallas!  arbustochupa   Jul-07-04 02:02 PM   #177 
            kick it for all  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 03:30 PM   #179 
            fwiw, my letter to media is in post #136. i really like your idea here  faithnotgreed   Jul-07-04 07:33 PM   #186 
            Here's what I wrote  kgfnally   Jul-08-04 12:41 AM   #208 
               Very nice letter, kgfnally..  Tellurian   Jul-08-04 01:34 AM   #212 
               KGFNLLY - I love Levin. He's right on it-one of the good guys  Pallas180   Jul-08-04 01:43 AM   #213 
   Back to Plame and a couple of questions  Papa   Jul-07-04 03:39 PM   #180 
   Interesting questions  burrowowl   Jul-07-04 06:44 PM   #181 
   Ok something always bothered me. Kennebunkport, Maine -what was Atta  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 06:52 PM   #183 
   Self-deleted  jumptheshadow   Jul-08-04 06:55 AM   #234 
   Just the fact  kgfnally   Jul-08-04 12:05 AM   #206 
   PAPA -welcome. Your Para 2 & 3 sound highly plausible, but  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 06:46 PM   #182 
   I'm not H2O man, but I did find a few links . . .  arbustochupa   Jul-07-04 07:44 PM   #187 
   Thanks for looking  Papa   Jul-07-04 07:58 PM   #188 
   Back to Plame - 2 tons of enriched uranium removed from Iraq  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 09:34 PM   #194 
      toons~  Tellurian   Jul-07-04 10:21 PM   #199 
      It appears that Iraq had enriched uranium from the late 80's early 90's  Papa   Jul-07-04 10:23 PM   #200 
   INDICTMENTS - 7/7 Ken Lay, Energy Consultant to Cheney's  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 07:01 PM   #184 
   Wow, Ken Lay in the Bu$h administration. Perfect fit.  Zorra   Jul-07-04 09:28 PM   #192 
   Hmm, I Wonder What Plame Was Working On...Could It Have Something  Beetwasher   Jul-07-04 09:33 PM   #193 
   Well we could always send Joe Wilson all 3 threads and ask him.  Pallas180   Jul-07-04 09:51 PM   #197 
   Sit down, my son  arbustochupa   Jul-07-04 10:26 PM   #201 
   Pallas, man of action...please start a new thread...  Tellurian   Jul-07-04 11:19 PM   #202 
   yeah! I'm a-waiting on thread 4 for my follow the money post  Snazzy   Jul-08-04 02:48 AM   #224 
   Conyers is a another good guy - very - patriot act was sprung on them  Pallas180   Jul-08-04 02:10 AM   #217 
   sending these 3 threads to Wilson in the .doc format  kgfnally   Jul-08-04 12:11 AM   #207 
      send the three threads in their entirety?  arbustochupa   Jul-08-04 07:47 AM   #235 
   I would hope so...  Tellurian   Jul-07-04 10:04 PM   #198 
   More info..  daria_g   Jul-08-04 01:26 AM   #211 
   Whoa - - - never saw anything like that before Daria, where did  Pallas180   Jul-08-04 01:54 AM   #215 
   may i ask what was meant by "decision" in 1st para under "july 3"  faithnotgreed   Jul-08-04 02:02 AM   #216 
   'Follow the weasel'  Snazzy   Jul-08-04 02:40 AM   #221 
      Also whoever is putting this in PDF or Adobe, send to John Dean  Pallas180   Jul-08-04 02:44 AM   #222 
         Just came to me, maybe Valerie Plame was the one who caught Cheney  Pallas180   Jul-08-04 02:46 AM   #223 
            I keep hearing dif things about what country her focus was  Snazzy   Jul-08-04 05:23 AM   #229 
   NEW here  Lestatdelc   Jul-08-04 04:06 AM   #225 
   Welcome to DU!  gandalf   Jul-08-04 04:48 AM   #226 
   Thanks  Lestatdelc   Jul-08-04 04:52 AM   #228 
      Around 10, max 15 posts, I think  gandalf   Jul-08-04 05:25 AM   #230 
         Thanks  Lestatdelc   Jul-08-04 06:48 AM   #232 
   Welcome to DU, Lestatdelc!  burrowowl   Jul-08-04 04:49 AM   #227 
   That is one excellent summation... Welcome  LibertyorDeath   Jul-08-04 06:31 AM   #231 
      Thanks  Lestatdelc   Jul-08-04 06:52 AM   #233 
   Locking due to length.....  ModeratorDU Moderator   Jul-08-04 07:50 AM   #236 
 

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