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Sun Aug-17-03 06:54 PM
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| 93. Well, Milton, when someone on this tread finally tells me why he's best |
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candidate......I might think about him and his "undeclared" candidacy further. Until then....I have to say, I'm as puzzled about him as I was when I started this thread. I think he's a "Spoiler," and have not been convinced otherwise. Sorry......haven't heard anything about what he will do about any of the problems we here on DU are concerned about........  |
| -Clark supporters: Could you tell me why he isn't a "Spoiler." |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 11:57 AM |
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Ralph Nader |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 12:06 PM |
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How are you so sure he can win? Coming in at this late date when other |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 12:12 PM |
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How are you so sure he can't win? |
mcd1982 |
Aug-17-03 12:16 PM |
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Clinton Started EARLY |
tsipple |
Aug-17-03 12:27 PM |
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I've read on DU many times... |
mcd1982 |
Aug-17-03 12:29 PM |
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Clinton Officially Announced in Late 1991 |
tsipple |
Aug-17-03 12:48 PM |
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Clinton officially anNOUNCed "late" |
TacticalPeak |
Aug-17-03 12:46 PM |
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not only that, |
dfong63 |
Aug-17-03 02:35 PM |
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So? Don't the voters get to decide? |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 03:54 PM |
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Clark is the one who seems to be afraid |
dfong63 |
Aug-19-03 05:46 AM |
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Our Campaigs Are Too Long |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 12:23 PM |
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They are |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 03:13 PM |
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KoKo...I have to go with you on this one. |
liberalnurse |
Aug-17-03 12:33 PM |
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"I Don't Sense He Is Presidential" |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 12:41 PM |
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what's lacking in Clark |
dfong63 |
Aug-17-03 03:04 PM |
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Where is it written in the consitution or electoral laws that |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 03:57 PM |
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So....you're saying an "Unknown" with no voting record is better than |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 06:24 PM |
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bingo |
dfong63 |
Aug-19-03 05:48 AM |
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i think that lack is a plus ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-17-03 04:04 PM |
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Pepperbelly....what was Ike's role in "Mobilization?" |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 06:33 PM |
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i was responding to dfong above ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-17-03 06:54 PM |
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If it's too late for him to get the nomination, who is he hurting? |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 03:51 PM |
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If he's running as the "Military alternative to Bush in his Flight Suit" |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 10:23 PM |
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A good general picks the battle, the time, and the place. |
alfredo |
Aug-17-03 06:45 PM |
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He's getting the money from people like me |
Nashyra |
Aug-17-03 07:29 PM |
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No such thing |
bicentennial_baby |
Aug-17-03 12:13 PM |
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Thanks! |
Brazosboomer |
Aug-17-03 12:17 PM |
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Don't forget to also give money to... |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 04:00 PM |
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Hummm..... |
Brazosboomer |
Aug-17-03 12:13 PM |
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Ab-so-lutely...watching him hammer the Hammer was delish! |
TacticalPeak |
Aug-17-03 12:34 PM |
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I'm not a Clark supporter, but... |
GOPFighter |
Aug-17-03 12:15 PM |
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I Don't Think Popularity Or Military Experience Is Something |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 12:18 PM |
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Bush had little experience |
mzpip |
Aug-17-03 12:32 PM |
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The Texas Lege |
mcd1982 |
Aug-17-03 12:33 PM |
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Bush Won* Because He Had A Pedigree |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 12:47 PM |
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Ditto. |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 04:02 PM |
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He certainly spoils it for Lieberman and that's good enough for me |
John_H |
Aug-17-03 12:21 PM |
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Too Early to Tell |
tsipple |
Aug-17-03 12:25 PM |
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What If Graham And Edwards Drop Out |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 12:34 PM |
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The "General" and "Doctor" titles seem rather fawning to me |
roughsatori |
Aug-17-03 12:26 PM |
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d'accord |
clar |
Aug-17-03 12:33 PM |
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I Give The Good Doctor And The General |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 12:38 PM |
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I am a Dean supporter |
roughsatori |
Aug-17-03 12:51 PM |
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Senator, etc.? |
RichV |
Aug-17-03 12:36 PM |
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No it does not bother me when elected officials use that title. |
roughsatori |
Aug-17-03 12:43 PM |
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I do agree with that .... |
Trajan |
Aug-17-03 12:41 PM |
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The only title I'll revere for any of these dems is "BUSHWHACKER". n/t |
TacticalPeak |
Aug-17-03 12:57 PM |
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I see your point. I don't refer to General Clark as, "The General.." |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 04:04 PM |
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A spoiler to whom? Come on, KoKo, LOL. |
tjdee |
Aug-17-03 12:35 PM |
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tj, which of the guys behind his ad is a Repuglican? I saw Bob Bekel's |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 12:54 PM |
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Oh...I mean the "Draft Clark" guys. |
tjdee |
Aug-17-03 12:57 PM |
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Bob Beckel Was Walter Mondale's 1984 Campaign Manager |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 01:02 PM |
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Yes! Beckel was a good guy.......that's why I asked t.j. didn't know who |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 05:31 PM |
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Kerry? A couple of weeks ago, a poster said.. |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 04:26 PM |
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At the very least, you could enjoy his cheap shots at Tom Delay |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-17-03 12:50 PM |
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no cheap shots, Jen ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-17-03 12:57 PM |
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What Did HST |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 01:04 PM |
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HST didn't say it, but he probably *would have.* |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-17-03 02:09 PM |
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you're absolutely right, they were in no way "cheap" |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-17-03 02:05 PM |
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he did the unforgivable for the media goons ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-17-03 03:47 PM |
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So! You've finally decided! BTW,,, |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 04:18 PM |
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Okay... |
mcd1982 |
Aug-17-03 12:50 PM |
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Because |
Trek234 |
Aug-17-03 10:39 PM |
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no... |
Dookus |
Aug-17-03 11:09 PM |
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I have finally decided that Wesley is, by far, the best possible ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-17-03 12:55 PM |
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Too early for anyone to be a Spoiler! |
Wickster |
Aug-17-03 12:57 PM |
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everyone's a spoiler at this point |
Hamlette |
Aug-17-03 01:04 PM |
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he's only a spoiler if he runs outside the party. |
samsingh |
Aug-17-03 01:05 PM |
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There it is. You nail it, samsingh. |
TacticalPeak |
Aug-17-03 01:16 PM |
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Because he's going to run for the Democratic nomination |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 01:37 PM |
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I could have *sworn* that one of the Draft Clark guys was GOP. |
tjdee |
Aug-17-03 01:42 PM |
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Yeah, that's right--Josh Margulies |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 02:04 PM |
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Thanks--and there are other people at the Draft Wesley Clark site. |
tjdee |
Aug-17-03 02:09 PM |
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Agree t.j. They may not be DLC.....but they aren't "Left like Me!" |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 06:37 PM |
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I agree w. your republican friend. |
TheBigGuy |
Aug-17-03 04:06 PM |
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Honestly, |
pbl |
Aug-17-03 01:40 PM |
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what's the difference... |
grasswire |
Aug-17-03 02:29 PM |
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Dark House Was A Pretty Good Song |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 02:46 PM |
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I'm giving "big bucks" to the Clark campaign and people like me. |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 03:44 PM |
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Hey,Kahuna, you can't be sure he's a Deanie |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 03:51 PM |
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Hi tameszu... |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 04:23 PM |
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S'OK |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 06:45 PM |
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But Clark's supporters are all....lawyers....um....military people....er.. |
tjdee |
Aug-17-03 04:07 PM |
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I am a supporter and I am a Union member |
Nashyra |
Aug-17-03 07:39 PM |
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I'm not a Deanie.......but I donated to him. I'm undecided but leaning |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 08:23 PM |
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Why would he be a spoiler? |
TheBigGuy |
Aug-17-03 04:01 PM |
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Where are the funds coming from |
eleny |
Aug-17-03 04:20 PM |
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"Prune the Bushes.." It's so obvious, yet I'm seeing that phrase.. |
Kahuna |
Aug-17-03 04:33 PM |
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Prune the Bushes |
eleny |
Aug-17-03 05:00 PM |
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Eleny! Have you heard Eisenhauer's Quote: "Beware the Military Industrial |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 05:29 PM |
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It was a former general who coined the phrase |
BillyBunter |
Aug-17-03 05:48 PM |
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Billy Bunter, here's an interesting article from "Forbes" for you........ |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 06:50 PM |
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Sorry KOKO! but.... |
eleny |
Aug-17-03 07:27 PM |
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He should have announced |
loyalsister |
Aug-17-03 04:54 PM |
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I'm not sure it's too late for him to win |
diplomats |
Aug-17-03 05:29 PM |
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"Many people think the Dems are wimpy on security/defense issues" |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-17-03 07:11 PM |
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Are most of you posting here, former Military? I'm trying to understand |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 05:35 PM |
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read some of the other threads and maybe you will see ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-17-03 05:58 PM |
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"Pepperbelly" are you saying a "Strong Man" is what you want? Someone to |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 06:31 PM |
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what are you smoking? |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-17-03 06:51 PM |
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ROFL, Pepperbelly..........Military Man......Strong Man.......Straw Man... |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 06:58 PM |
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if you had read my thread re: changing my avatar and |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-17-03 07:04 PM |
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I just read your link......thanks. I understand why you would want some |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 07:50 PM |
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IMHO |
Pastiche423 |
Aug-17-03 07:00 PM |
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IMHO... |
eleny |
Aug-17-03 07:44 PM |
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Wonder about what? |
BillyBunter |
Aug-17-03 10:38 PM |
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Not former military |
sparosnare |
Aug-17-03 06:35 PM |
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The reason that Clark isn't a "spoiler"- |
MiltonLeBerle |
Aug-17-03 06:38 PM |
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Yup |
Proletariat |
Aug-17-03 06:38 PM |
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Well, Milton, when someone on this tread finally tells me why he's best |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 06:54 PM |
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Why don't we wait |
sparosnare |
Aug-17-03 07:04 PM |
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Hi Koko. |
chaska |
Aug-17-03 07:07 PM |
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But again--a spoiler to WHOM? |
tjdee |
Aug-17-03 07:14 PM |
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Candidates running in the South Carolina primary.....for one! |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 07:18 PM |
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For Koko--why he isn't a spoiler |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 07:54 PM |
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Do you vote in this country? |
Pastiche423 |
Aug-17-03 08:09 PM |
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Yes, Pastiche, I vote in this country. |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 08:18 PM |
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Heh, Koko, that may have been for me... |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 08:26 PM |
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So, if you don't vote in this country |
Pastiche423 |
Aug-17-03 08:51 PM |
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Is someone trying to say something to me? |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 11:13 PM |
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Koko, I know you vote in this country, dear |
Pastiche423 |
Aug-17-03 08:35 PM |
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tameszu, you're the first Clark supporter who has told me exactly why you |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 08:11 PM |
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Uh, I don't understand your definition of a "spoiler" |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 08:24 PM |
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A candidate who comes in at the last minute and by appealing to an angry |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 08:40 PM |
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Hmm... |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 11:07 PM |
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My reasons |
RatTerrier |
Aug-17-03 09:09 PM |
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Thanks, RatTerrier, for explaining your postion....I'm much more liberal |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 09:48 PM |
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Better? Because he can win. |
Clark Can WIN |
Aug-17-03 08:10 PM |
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Hmmmm.... |
eleny |
Aug-17-03 07:56 PM |
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Eleny.....I would like to have some voting record, personally. Why should |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 08:03 PM |
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I love that DU is becoming so philosophical |
tameszu |
Aug-17-03 08:07 PM |
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Ah......not looking for "absolutes." But "patterns." Clark is "unknown." |
KoKo01 |
Aug-17-03 08:16 PM |
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Before I go watch Ann Richard's on Larry King.... |
eleny |
Aug-17-03 08:09 PM |
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CNN ticker, 'War executed on false assumptions'. This broke on the DU |
dArKeR |
Aug-17-03 07:15 PM |
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Who is paying for the Clark ads? |
VoteClark |
Aug-17-03 08:32 PM |
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I don't support Clark |
IndianaGreen |
Aug-17-03 08:40 PM |
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Clark's appeal is that he has the qualities to win. |
snyttri |
Aug-17-03 09:17 PM |
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Give me a break |
jiacinto |
Aug-17-03 09:50 PM |
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exactly right, jiacinto.... |
Dookus |
Aug-17-03 11:11 PM |
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He's a candidate, not a spoiler |
Democat |
Aug-17-03 09:50 PM |
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Clark is a candidate? |
Pastiche423 |
Aug-17-03 10:05 PM |
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good point (nt) |
Fescue4u |
Aug-19-03 12:45 AM |
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If We Care About America |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Aug-17-03 10:23 PM |
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Currently, I have pledged $500... |
familydoctor |
Aug-17-03 10:29 PM |
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Im not a support of Clark, |
Fescue4u |
Aug-19-03 04:23 PM |
#145 |
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