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The vast majority of abortions are perfomed long before the 12 week, or beginning of 2nd trimester, mark. Most are performed at, I believe, around 6 weeks.
2nd trimester abortions, when they do occur, usually happen after fetal testing (the earliest chromosome tests can't be done until about 12 weeks) that determine something is wrong with the fetus.
Most of the fetuses paraded around obscenely by the anti-abortion folks are well into or beyond the 2nd trimester.
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| -This is pretty cool, but will give more ammo to anti-abortion people |
ringmastery |
Jun-28-04 08:27 PM |
#0 |
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Zygot isn't supposed to look like that! |
cocoabeach |
Jun-28-04 08:29 PM |
#1 |
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That's because everyone knows a zygote isn't a 12 week old fetus |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-28-04 08:52 PM |
#7 |
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yeah, it's called a homunculus (or something) and if you |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 10:52 PM |
#30 |
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sure they smile, but it's always that jerky, nervous kind of wave. |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-28-04 11:35 PM |
#64 |
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Did you know? |
Scairp |
Jun-28-04 08:30 PM |
#2 |
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Do they still a have heartbeat? This tissue mass does |
cocoabeach |
Jun-28-04 08:34 PM |
#3 |
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Still doesn' t prove sentience |
Scairp |
Jun-28-04 08:38 PM |
#4 |
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And a newborn baby does? |
cocoabeach |
Jun-28-04 08:52 PM |
#6 |
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You mutilated your child? Shame on you! |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 10:53 PM |
#31 |
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If my Mother had a living will and wished to die, yes, I would honor her |
Pachamama |
Jun-28-04 11:04 PM |
#43 |
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It doesn't matter |
Warpy |
Jun-28-04 08:49 PM |
#5 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-28-04 08:54 PM |
#8 |
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Right on.... |
Heyo |
Jun-28-04 08:58 PM |
#9 |
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She can use whatever she wants for birth control..... |
Branjor |
Jun-28-04 09:52 PM |
#11 |
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Guess what? |
Lindacooks |
Jun-28-04 10:15 PM |
#18 |
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"It's none of your cheney business." |
Forkboy |
Jun-28-04 10:47 PM |
#27 |
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Oooo! That is priceless! |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-29-04 12:33 PM |
#157 |
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Begging the question |
Nederland |
Jun-29-04 12:49 PM |
#160 |
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If I am 25 year old WalMart clerk with cancer |
Timefortruth |
Jun-28-04 10:20 PM |
#20 |
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That was put beautifully |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-29-04 12:36 PM |
#158 |
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Fan-fucking-tastic! |
Selwynn |
Jun-29-04 04:22 PM |
#186 |
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If you don't like abortion |
GoneOffShore |
Jun-28-04 10:24 PM |
#21 |
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So can ANY woman say who should have access to |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 10:26 PM |
#23 |
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Too many men make the laws |
GoneOffShore |
Jun-28-04 10:43 PM |
#26 |
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It was mostly sarcasm |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 10:54 PM |
#32 |
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maybe we need to establish a law that says that every male |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 11:13 PM |
#49 |
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The male "pill" |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 11:26 PM |
#56 |
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Moralizing from the right is a symptom of a hoped |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 11:41 PM |
#73 |
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I'm just not personally a big fan of abortion |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 11:47 PM |
#78 |
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I haven't, but Nataline Angier, the biologist who wrote |
jdjkkse |
Jun-29-04 12:05 AM |
#94 |
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I agree that this issue |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-29-04 12:30 AM |
#110 |
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Gay marriage. |
jdjkkse |
Jun-29-04 12:35 AM |
#113 |
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ha ha |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-29-04 12:40 AM |
#115 |
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scenario |
Djinn |
Jun-28-04 11:48 PM |
#79 |
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Is it different |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 11:53 PM |
#85 |
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Well, hey, there's always mass castration. |
belle |
Jun-29-04 01:14 AM |
#120 |
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fabulous idea |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 01:31 PM |
#168 |
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The Vonnegut approach |
antiwarwarrior |
Jun-29-04 01:57 AM |
#129 |
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Cross your own damn legs. |
belle |
Jun-29-04 01:13 AM |
#119 |
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who says ANYONE uses it for birth control |
Djinn |
Jun-28-04 10:48 PM |
#28 |
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How about keeping your prick in your pants? |
spotbird |
Jun-28-04 10:48 PM |
#29 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-28-04 11:09 PM |
#47 |
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ok |
absolutezero |
Jun-28-04 11:35 PM |
#66 |
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Welcome to DU... |
Delano |
Jun-28-04 11:39 PM |
#71 |
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Can you say "Straw man?" |
kiahzero |
Jun-29-04 02:01 AM |
#130 |
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You don't have a too good an opinion of |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 08:59 PM |
#10 |
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you might not like the word |
Cheswick |
Jun-28-04 09:57 PM |
#13 |
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Well |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 10:02 PM |
#15 |
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If men had to carry a child and give birth this debate would not |
merh |
Jun-28-04 10:55 PM |
#34 |
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What a sexist piece of crap |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 01:15 AM |
#121 |
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another person with a penis weighs in |
Cheswick |
Jun-28-04 10:56 PM |
#35 |
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Restraint from both parties |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 10:59 PM |
#37 |
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I said |
Cheswick |
Jun-28-04 11:06 PM |
#45 |
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So in essence it isn't half the male's child |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 11:09 PM |
#48 |
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It? |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 11:25 PM |
#54 |
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Well, he/she has kind of a negative connotation as well right? |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 11:28 PM |
#58 |
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Well let's think about that, since the male is not carrying it, |
merh |
Jun-28-04 11:36 PM |
#68 |
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So to continue on that |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 11:38 PM |
#70 |
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Physically it becomes an independent living being. |
merh |
Jun-29-04 12:17 AM |
#100 |
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Does this mean that I can still take the moral high road and |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-29-04 12:23 AM |
#104 |
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I never believed that blondes were as dense as they say, but |
merh |
Jun-29-04 12:39 AM |
#114 |
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Uh oh, and I'm not even a blonde |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-29-04 12:49 AM |
#116 |
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Your name on this forum is "Mr. Blonde" thus the blonde reference |
merh |
Jun-29-04 01:23 AM |
#126 |
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Do whatever the hell you want. It's still up to her. But may I suggest.. |
belle |
Jun-29-04 01:21 AM |
#125 |
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Where I come from women tell men |
jdjkkse |
Jun-29-04 12:24 AM |
#105 |
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LOL - that is a good one - I have to remember that. |
merh |
Jun-29-04 12:27 AM |
#108 |
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I agree with you but |
Djinn |
Jun-29-04 01:04 AM |
#117 |
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Got A Link? |
outinforce |
Jun-29-04 03:25 PM |
#177 |
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Correct. It isn't. |
belle |
Jun-29-04 01:20 AM |
#124 |
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Get pregnant and get back to me |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 01:26 PM |
#165 |
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And when the woman gets pregnant and |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 01:16 AM |
#122 |
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stop screwing women you are not married to and who has not |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 01:40 PM |
#171 |
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I'm an old married guy |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 06:04 PM |
#189 |
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one rape every six seconds. |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 11:22 PM |
#53 |
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On the side that |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 11:29 PM |
#59 |
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you've lost me. |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 11:44 PM |
#75 |
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I can't remember where |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-28-04 11:50 PM |
#82 |
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You're WAY out on rape |
Djinn |
Jun-29-04 12:03 AM |
#92 |
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That gave me chills. |
jdjkkse |
Jun-29-04 12:08 AM |
#96 |
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If someone is to the point of being willing to rape |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-29-04 12:15 AM |
#99 |
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I don't understand how a man can maintain an erection |
jdjkkse |
Jun-29-04 12:21 AM |
#103 |
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In any case rape is |
Mr. Blonde |
Jun-29-04 12:28 AM |
#109 |
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See William Reich: "The Mass Psychology of Fascism," for a start. |
belle |
Jun-29-04 01:18 AM |
#123 |
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Men have every bit as much right to weigh in in their opinions on abortion |
Delano |
Jun-28-04 11:52 PM |
#84 |
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The truth is that when she went into labor |
spotbird |
Jun-28-04 11:59 PM |
#89 |
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She chose to get pregnant and have the baby. |
Delano |
Jun-29-04 12:10 AM |
#97 |
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" The risk to her life was minimal" |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 08:29 AM |
#139 |
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No, but I've known people who have died after childbirth |
spotbird |
Jun-29-04 09:35 AM |
#151 |
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I'm pro-choice too, but |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 01:28 AM |
#127 |
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I think it sucks that women must be the ones to get pregnant |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 08:31 AM |
#140 |
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Today that's true enough |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 09:20 AM |
#149 |
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Good point. |
Delano |
Jun-29-04 12:07 PM |
#153 |
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no they don't |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 08:27 AM |
#138 |
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No. |
Delano |
Jun-29-04 12:06 PM |
#152 |
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If you're a man |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 01:13 PM |
#161 |
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OOOH! Even I wouldn't go there... |
Delano |
Jun-29-04 01:19 PM |
#162 |
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This whole thread is full of sexism |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 01:29 PM |
#167 |
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poor victim |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 01:50 PM |
#174 |
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waaaaaaaaaaa |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 01:48 PM |
#173 |
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Odd use of terms, though... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-28-04 10:13 PM |
#16 |
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a lot of emotional garbage don't you think? |
Cheswick |
Jun-28-04 10:59 PM |
#38 |
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Terribly Sorry for being Silly.... Humblest Apologies.... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-28-04 11:05 PM |
#44 |
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oh nonsense |
Cheswick |
Jun-28-04 11:07 PM |
#46 |
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If the word is valid... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-28-04 11:15 PM |
#50 |
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I'm not crazy about that word used in this context, more accurately |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 11:58 PM |
#88 |
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I think I can assume we both think... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-29-04 12:06 AM |
#95 |
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Do you have an interest in innocent life that is born? |
spotbird |
Jun-28-04 11:43 PM |
#74 |
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Hmmm... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-29-04 12:01 AM |
#91 |
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That is a silly argument to me; an intruder means to do a person |
Roaming |
Jun-29-04 09:00 AM |
#143 |
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I've always been pro-Choice |
Baltimoreboy |
Jun-29-04 09:15 AM |
#147 |
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lots of things have heart beats |
Cheswick |
Jun-28-04 09:55 PM |
#12 |
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Need a brain for that |
Az |
Jun-28-04 11:02 PM |
#42 |
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and this tissue mass is NOT a zygote |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-29-04 12:34 AM |
#112 |
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The second scan is not of a 12 week old fetus. |
Timefortruth |
Jun-28-04 10:01 PM |
#14 |
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Whenever I hear about abortion... |
prayforsane |
Jun-28-04 10:14 PM |
#17 |
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Were you? |
Kanary |
Jun-28-04 10:19 PM |
#19 |
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LOL |
Cheswick |
Jun-28-04 10:58 PM |
#36 |
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Maybe not in this life. How about if you were to be born in |
kikiek |
Jun-28-04 10:25 PM |
#22 |
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There is something very disturbing about people who are |
spotbird |
Jun-28-04 11:49 PM |
#80 |
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sigh |
Djinn |
Jun-28-04 10:55 PM |
#33 |
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Far from it. |
kikiek |
Jun-28-04 11:00 PM |
#39 |
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Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, I, I, I. |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 11:01 PM |
#40 |
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well, since you brought it up |
prayforsane |
Jun-28-04 11:26 PM |
#57 |
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and you wont be getting pregnant |
Djinn |
Jun-28-04 11:34 PM |
#62 |
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Can't imagine that I will. |
prayforsane |
Jun-28-04 11:38 PM |
#69 |
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while I don't beleive |
Djinn |
Jun-28-04 11:55 PM |
#87 |
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Do you mean "I plan to adopt"? |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 11:46 PM |
#77 |
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Yes that is what I meant |
prayforsane |
Jun-28-04 11:51 PM |
#83 |
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Good for you. Better you spend your time preaching |
jdjkkse |
Jun-29-04 12:10 AM |
#98 |
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Actually, I think most people who are pro-life are also pro-adoption. |
Roaming |
Jun-29-04 09:09 AM |
#144 |
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The answer is misogyny |
spotbird |
Jun-28-04 11:30 PM |
#60 |
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Er, ok... |
prayforsane |
Jun-28-04 11:34 PM |
#63 |
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No, not at all. |
spotbird |
Jun-28-04 11:53 PM |
#86 |
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Ding, Ding, Ding... |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-29-04 01:47 PM |
#172 |
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exactly |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-28-04 11:50 PM |
#81 |
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Yeah, but those kids are the wrong color, have disabilities |
PA Democrat |
Jun-29-04 09:12 AM |
#145 |
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then I will assume that when you get pregnant you will not have an |
Cheswick |
Jun-28-04 11:02 PM |
#41 |
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If you were aborted, there wouldn't be a "you." |
kiahzero |
Jun-29-04 02:10 AM |
#132 |
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You should update your message to clarify the age difference. |
kikiek |
Jun-28-04 10:26 PM |
#24 |
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FWIW |
lolly |
Jun-28-04 10:39 PM |
#25 |
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I'm fine with banning abortions in the 3rd trimester. |
JohnLocke |
Jun-28-04 11:35 PM |
#67 |
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Me too, with the exception... |
Delano |
Jun-29-04 12:20 AM |
#102 |
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Abortion is illegal in the 3rd Trimester....The only reason any procedure |
Pachamama |
Jun-29-04 12:25 AM |
#106 |
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Yes, of course there are exceptions. |
JohnLocke |
Jun-29-04 08:15 AM |
#135 |
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abortions should not be done before 8 weeks |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 08:24 AM |
#136 |
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Not according to the CDC |
lolly |
Jun-29-04 03:41 PM |
#183 |
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FYI - This technology isn't new - Siemens and others have been selling |
Pachamama |
Jun-28-04 11:16 PM |
#51 |
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something I learnt after working in PR |
Djinn |
Jun-28-04 11:22 PM |
#52 |
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Thanks for posting this. |
jdjkkse |
Jun-28-04 11:33 PM |
#61 |
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Often it's because |
Djinn |
Jun-28-04 11:46 PM |
#76 |
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Show "Toxic Sludge Is Good For You" was all about that. |
kikiek |
Jun-28-04 11:41 PM |
#72 |
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The article was on Drudges web site today. |
merh |
Jun-29-04 12:01 AM |
#90 |
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I was wondering about the wisdom of this post to be honest. |
kikiek |
Jun-29-04 12:03 AM |
#93 |
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Should have known it was on the Sludge Report... |
Pachamama |
Jun-29-04 12:18 AM |
#101 |
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Yeah need to ignore the attempts. They get the most responses too. |
kikiek |
Jun-29-04 12:26 AM |
#107 |
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I guess I should confess. I was getting bored what with all the |
jdjkkse |
Jun-29-04 12:33 AM |
#111 |
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I'll second the confession |
Djinn |
Jun-29-04 01:10 AM |
#118 |
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A few days ago there was a really contentious one up, here is |
Roaming |
Jun-29-04 09:20 AM |
#148 |
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His posts usually are |
Djinn |
Jun-30-04 06:01 PM |
#192 |
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Pretty exciting stuff! Can you imagine when you get your first |
Kimber Scott |
Jun-28-04 11:26 PM |
#55 |
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Right on. |
kikiek |
Jun-28-04 11:35 PM |
#65 |
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Confirms what I thought |
fortyfeetunder |
Jun-29-04 01:33 AM |
#128 |
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So I'm not the only one? |
WakeMeUp |
Jun-29-04 02:07 AM |
#131 |
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Each of our ultrasounds showed |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 02:19 AM |
#133 |
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Ours showed |
WakeMeUp |
Jun-29-04 02:22 AM |
#134 |
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Pretty neat looking tissue!! |
ArkDem |
Jun-29-04 08:26 AM |
#137 |
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"walking" implies "standing" and "moving" |
thinkingwoman |
Jun-29-04 08:56 AM |
#141 |
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yes we seem to have a lot of fetal fetishists here today |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 01:23 PM |
#164 |
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I dunno, I kinda prefer the mystery |
patsified |
Jun-29-04 08:59 AM |
#142 |
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Ultrasounds are awesome; maybe someday they'll be cheap |
Roaming |
Jun-29-04 09:13 AM |
#146 |
| -
When I was in Japan... |
Delano |
Jun-29-04 12:10 PM |
#154 |
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Ours was amazing because |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 09:24 AM |
#150 |
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Abortions legal in England for the first ? mo.s of the pregnancy? |
redqueen |
Jun-29-04 12:13 PM |
#155 |
| -
Ultrasounds are amazing |
Killarney |
Jun-29-04 12:18 PM |
#156 |
| -
abortion used as a form of birth control? |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 01:21 PM |
#163 |
| -
There was an HBO special that followed some hookers |
Yupster |
Jun-29-04 01:31 PM |
#169 |
| -
bullshit |
Cheswick |
Jun-29-04 01:37 PM |
#170 |
| -
Ignoring the reality of this situation makes Democrats look |
redqueen |
Jun-29-04 03:28 PM |
#179 |
| -
what I mean |
Killarney |
Jun-29-04 02:58 PM |
#176 |
| -
There is no ultrasound that looks anything like these photos |
XanthaS |
Jun-29-04 03:45 PM |
#184 |
| -
Those photographs ARE ultrasounds (nt) |
Nederland |
Jun-29-04 05:39 PM |
#188 |
| -
ummmm.......... |
MissAnnThrope |
Jun-29-04 12:45 PM |
#159 |
| -
Sorry. I don't buy it. |
XanthaS |
Jun-29-04 01:27 PM |
#166 |
| -
Hahaha |
Killarney |
Jun-29-04 03:27 PM |
#178 |
| -
I don't know how you can laugh |
redqueen |
Jun-29-04 03:31 PM |
#180 |
| -
Um |
Killarney |
Jun-29-04 03:35 PM |
#181 |
| -
They look photoshopped |
XanthaS |
Jun-29-04 03:39 PM |
#182 |
| -
They are real. |
Killarney |
Jun-29-04 03:45 PM |
#185 |
| -
they're real BUT |
Djinn |
Jun-30-04 05:51 PM |
#190 |
| -
Sorry ya'll |
mrgorth |
Jun-29-04 01:56 PM |
#175 |
| -
so in that case |
Djinn |
Jun-30-04 05:54 PM |
#191 |
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If men gave birth, there wouldn't be 500 fucking posts on this thread... |
Selwynn |
Jun-29-04 04:26 PM |
#187 |
| -
Go Selwynn Go Selwynn!! |
Djinn |
Jun-30-04 06:03 PM |
#194 |
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The brain-eating zombies are coming! |
Colin Ex |
Jun-30-04 06:02 PM |
#193 |
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