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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-04 04:47 PM
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39. There is a danger...
There is a legitimate danger that by trying to get his platform all at once Nadar will split the left leaning vote between himself and Kerry and allow Bush to be re-elected. In fact in theory Nader could take 33% and Kerry 33% and bush win with 34%. If this were uniform Bush would sweep every state... why is that bad. Because once in office the mandate from the people matters little for 4 years. Bush would be free to move the country further from Naders vision.

Some say that Kerry should move more left to take the votes back. But this ignores the fact that this would cause more voters to be "closer" to Bush than to Kerry. He would loose more votes than he gained.

Also every poll I have seen shows that the votes do indeed come from Kerry.

As the system stands today the only way to exicute change is to "move the center".

Nadar's campain threatens to take the coutry even further from his vision and he must by now know this. Therefore the only reason I can see for his running is egotism.

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  -Congressional Black Caucus to lean on Nader WilliamPitt  Jun-21-04 12:06 PM   #0 
  - And Nader like Bush will simply repeat himself  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jun-21-04 12:07 PM   #1 
  - Times sure a different for Nader.  lovedems   Jun-21-04 12:08 PM   #2 
  - Good  Gom Jabbar   Jun-21-04 12:12 PM   #3 
  - But as a consumer advocate, he should have responded to Florida  LisaM   Jun-21-04 12:16 PM   #4 
  - how is signature gathering going?  mopinko   Jun-21-04 12:16 PM   #5 
  - only the ones that the reform party put him on  Cheswick   Jun-21-04 04:14 PM   #33 
     - Arizona - There is a Chance He Will Not Be On the Ballot?  Justice   Jun-21-04 04:54 PM   #43 
  - Kick!  Gom Jabbar   Jun-21-04 12:46 PM   #6 
  - They should be leaning on Kerry.  bandera   Jun-21-04 12:49 PM   #7 
  - Amen to that bandera, seems like they forgot the  candy331   Jun-21-04 01:25 PM   #9 
  - More white people telling blacks what to do  sangh0   Jun-21-04 01:51 PM   #10 
  - Somehow I think the CBC understands  lancdem   Jun-21-04 03:15 PM   #28 
  - they should be doing both  Cheswick   Jun-21-04 04:15 PM   #34 
  - Is the caucus entirely Democratic?  leyton   Jun-21-04 12:57 PM   #8 
  - I'm almost positive Watts never joined CBC  aldian159   Jun-21-04 01:55 PM   #12 
  - i think he was part of the CBC , but can't say for sure  JI7   Jun-21-04 01:56 PM   #14 
  - J.C. Watts retired from Congress so the CBC is all democratic now  JI7   Jun-21-04 01:56 PM   #13 
  - Not all black legislators join the CBC  Cheswick   Jun-21-04 04:17 PM   #35 
  - They are welcome to introduce legislation putting  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-21-04 01:52 PM   #11 
  - Do you have any more suggestions for the black folks?  sangh0   Jun-21-04 02:37 PM   #20 
  - No, but I've got plenty of suggestions for  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-21-04 04:59 PM   #45 
     - Then why don't you tell them your suggestion  sangh0   Jun-21-04 05:04 PM   #47 
        - Have e-mailed many of them  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-21-04 05:09 PM   #48 
           - Well, whatever you do  sangh0   Jun-21-04 05:10 PM   #49 
              - Believe me, if I could afford to go down to D.C. and talk with  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-21-04 05:15 PM   #50 
  - actually there are welcome to treat Nader as the opposition  Cheswick   Jun-21-04 04:19 PM   #36 
  - I'd love to be a fly on that wall  Forkboy   Jun-21-04 01:57 PM   #15 
  - Me, too! Don't fool with the Congressional Black Caucus --  DeepModem Mom   Jun-21-04 03:36 PM   #29 
     - That day I knew I wasn't long for the Dem Party  Forkboy   Jun-21-04 03:50 PM   #30 
  - Political strongarming worthy of the GOP  DemsUnite   Jun-21-04 02:02 PM   #16 
  - It's terrible the way those black people throw their weight around  sangh0   Jun-21-04 02:10 PM   #17 
  - I was thinking along Party lines. You brought up race.  DemsUnite   Jun-21-04 02:24 PM   #18 
     - Yes, those black DEMS are like NAZIS  sangh0   Jun-21-04 02:25 PM   #19 
        - It's about a caucus, who is endorsing a Democrat ...  DemsUnite   Jun-21-04 02:51 PM   #21 
           - No, it's about the Congressional BLACK Caucus  sangh0   Jun-21-04 02:52 PM   #22 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-21-04 02:57 PM   #23 
              - are you black?  Cheswick   Jun-21-04 04:23 PM   #38 
              - How do I know you're not black? Simple  sangh0   Jun-21-04 04:50 PM   #40 
                 - I am accusing Democrats of abusing their power.  DemsUnite   Jun-21-04 04:52 PM   #42 
                    - You accused BLACK Democrats  sangh0   Jun-21-04 04:57 PM   #44 
                       - You are not interested in a rational debate.  DemsUnite   Jun-21-04 05:02 PM   #46 
              - sangh0  CatWoman   Jun-21-04 03:10 PM   #25 
                 - I LOVE YOU TOO, CATWOMAN  sangh0   Jun-21-04 04:52 PM   #41 
  - Gee, maybe the CBC thinks getting rid of Bush is MOST IMPORTANT  lancdem   Jun-21-04 03:13 PM   #27 
  - the CBC is very progressive  Cheswick   Jun-21-04 04:21 PM   #37 
  - Nader is terrible on the issue of race, if you ask me. I appreciate that  AP   Jun-21-04 03:09 PM   #24 
  - Great points AP  Forkboy   Jun-21-04 03:13 PM   #26 
  - Let Maxine Waters go one-one one with Ralph. She'd make his Randi Rhodes  oasis   Jun-21-04 04:06 PM   #31 
  - Kick his ass Sheila Jackson Lee!!!!!  Cheswick   Jun-21-04 04:11 PM   #32 
     - There is a danger...  Realityhack   Jun-21-04 04:47 PM   #39 

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