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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #48
62. It may be dog shit
but it answered your question didn't it?
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  -Would it be wrong of me to say that Moore is a propagandist? grendelsuncle  Jun-19-04 09:51 PM   #0 
  - Sort Of, You Also Left Out That Mike's An Artist  cryingshame   Jun-19-04 09:53 PM   #1 
  - Well, you've listed some fine adjectives.  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 09:59 PM   #8 
     - Those words were nouns, but nonetheless...  tishaLA   Jun-19-04 10:11 PM   #18 
        - And I'm an asshole (yet another noun).  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 10:19 PM   #25 
  - Interesting point you raise  Lucky Luciano   Jun-19-04 09:54 PM   #2 
  - Why use a perjorative term, just because he makes a point.  Eric J in MN   Jun-19-04 09:54 PM   #3 
  - Thank you. We should include every history book as well  theivoryqueen   Jun-19-04 10:13 PM   #21 
  - That was Matt Lauer's big point last night  plastic_turkeys   Jun-19-04 09:54 PM   #4 
  - Let Rush and O'Really say the same of themselves first.  HypnoToad   Jun-19-04 09:55 PM   #5 
  - 'bout time...  TrustingDog   Jun-19-04 09:56 PM   #6 
  - He's a populist....  Senior citizen   Jun-19-04 09:57 PM   #7 
  - Every movie now days whether a fictional film or docu has a POV  doni_georgia   Jun-19-04 10:00 PM   #9 
  - I loved "Love Actually"..and  zidzi   Jun-19-04 10:07 PM   #13 
     - I cheered also! And I loved Hugh's dance that followed. n/t  doni_georgia   Jun-19-04 10:28 PM   # 
  - Go right ahead  PurityOfEssence   Jun-19-04 10:01 PM   #10 
  - Propaganda used to have a much less Machiavellian connotation  Screaming Lord Byron   Jun-19-04 10:03 PM   #11 
  - His only agenda is honesty  Curious Dave   Jun-19-04 10:03 PM   #12 
  - Everybody, under your definition, is a  spenbax   Jun-19-04 10:12 PM   #19 
  - definition fits if you call truth a "cause" n/t  nofurylike   Jun-19-04 10:07 PM   #14 
  - One man's truth is another man's  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 10:10 PM   #17 
     - Moore earnestly cares about Life, the Earth and Justice.  nofurylike   Jun-19-04 10:28 PM   #31 
  - Yes it would be propaganda has a very negative connotation  LibertyorDeath   Jun-19-04 10:09 PM   #15 
  - Indeed, who gives a shit about techinicalities.  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 10:13 PM   #20 
     - Words can mean whatever enough people agree they mean  LibertyorDeath   Jun-19-04 10:49 PM   #37 
        - Then why do many of us hold onto the word "liberal"?  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 10:54 PM   #39 
           - Yes I understand your point  LibertyorDeath   Jun-19-04 11:09 PM   #42 
  - Yes because his film has items that he knows to be untrue  frisco   Jun-19-04 10:10 PM   #16 
  - It's my understanding--without seeing the film--that Moore  tishaLA   Jun-19-04 10:14 PM   #22 
  - Dictionary:  walldude   Jun-19-04 10:22 PM   #28 
  - Richard Clarke approved the flights after  shraby   Jun-19-04 10:16 PM   #23 
  - These are the same charges Move America Forward is making  Stargleamer   Jun-19-04 10:20 PM   #26 
  - Where I come from, truth or lies has has nothing to do with  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 10:27 PM   #30 
  - Son's in the military? No that was not the question...  RapidCreek   Jun-19-04 11:14 PM   #43 
  - It is the request for approval that is the pivotal question and that...  Spazito   Jun-20-04 12:36 AM   #53 
  - Denotatively, perhaps. Connotatively, no.  flewellyn   Jun-19-04 10:17 PM   #24 
  - Yes - a purveyor of good propaganda  Must_B_Free   Jun-19-04 10:22 PM   #27 
  - Here, here.  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 10:30 PM   #33 
  - yes it would be wrong of you  Cheswick   Jun-19-04 10:25 PM   #29 
  - And yet you fail (again) to show how I am wrong.  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 10:31 PM   #34 
  - Oh - go ahead!  eleny   Jun-19-04 10:29 PM   #32 
  - Probably. Not all propaganda is "bad" or consists of lies  TheWizardOfMudd   Jun-19-04 10:39 PM   #35 
  - Palme D'Or at Cannes  BeatleBoot   Jun-19-04 10:42 PM   #36 
  - One man's propaganda  realpolitik   Jun-19-04 10:52 PM   #38 
  - Michael Moore is a maker of Documentary films.  Bridget Burke   Jun-19-04 11:03 PM   #40 
  - Did any of those film maker say anything close to this?  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 11:09 PM   #41 
     - Yah..and so what if he is?  trumad   Jun-19-04 11:23 PM   #46 
        - Indeed, so what if he is?  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 11:26 PM   #48 
           - It may be dog shit  trumad   Jun-20-04 02:25 PM   #62 
  - Ah, the Bandwidth Lost...  BeatleBoot   Jun-19-04 11:16 PM   #44 
  - Yes, he's a propagandist, but he's on MY side.  Sirveri   Jun-19-04 11:21 PM   #45 
  - No truer words have been spoken here!!  grendelsuncle   Jun-19-04 11:23 PM   #47 
     - And you are toasting because....?  linazelle   Jun-19-04 11:44 PM   #49 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-19-04 11:51 PM   #50 
  - Leni Riefenstahl was a propagandist.  kaitykaity   Jun-20-04 12:08 AM   #51 
  - You may have a case with regards to your definition if  grendelsuncle   Jun-20-04 12:16 AM   #52 
     - Both are political films. So yes, this is how we are to define  kaitykaity   Jun-20-04 12:44 AM   #54 
        - What are you talking about?  grendelsuncle   Jun-20-04 12:55 AM   #55 
           - I like a challenge as much as the next person.  kaitykaity   Jun-20-04 02:22 AM   #58 
  - No. He's making an argument about the truth.  PeaceProgProsp   Jun-20-04 01:03 AM   #56 
  - The "argument" is semantical.  stickdog   Jun-20-04 01:25 AM   #57 
  - So what!  bo44   Jun-20-04 03:29 AM   #59 
  - No, a MUCKRAKER, in the  JCMach1   Jun-20-04 03:35 AM   #60 
  - At this point in our history...  deseo   Jun-20-04 09:47 AM   #61 
  - Moore IS a Propagandist  Crisco   Jun-20-04 02:27 PM   #63 
 

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