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Baltimoreboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #33
34. Again, immunity is simpler
But it won't change much either way. It just cuts down on the nasty press when the U.S. would ignore the actions of the ICC.
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  -China Will Not Back U.S. on Immunity from New Court elf  Jun-19-04 09:02 AM   #0 
  - Immunity for U.S.? After Abu Gharib I would think not.  spanone   Jun-19-04 09:03 AM   #1 
  - The brazenness never ceases to astound me  Eloriel   Jun-19-04 09:07 AM   #4 
  - if the vote passes for the US this third time  elf   Jun-19-04 09:04 AM   #2 
  - Why world allow that?  RC   Jun-19-04 09:07 AM   #5 
  - because the US threatened to remove all troops  elf   Jun-19-04 09:10 AM   #8 
     - Oh yeah, that's a real threat. Most countries would be thrilled if  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-19-04 09:15 AM   #9 
     - How is that blackmail?  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 09:18 AM   #11 
        - See post #6  elf   Jun-19-04 09:19 AM   #12 
           - That answers one question  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 09:25 AM   #14 
              - I hope the word "Blackmail"  elf   Jun-19-04 09:40 AM   #16 
                 - My point is this  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 09:51 AM   #20 
                    - I think you misunderstand...  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 09:58 AM   #23 
                    - I do understand  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:00 AM   #25 
                    - You're buying the bushco argument that this is about individual soldiers  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 10:10 AM   #31 
                       - Not buying any argument  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:13 AM   #32 
                       - That's not even logical!  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 10:21 AM   #36 
                          - It's entirely logical and overdue  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:24 AM   #39 
                             - Where should we create 'UNlandia'?  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 10:29 AM   #44 
                                - No, my argument is merely one of practicality  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:32 AM   #47 
                                   - One question  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 10:37 AM   #52 
                                      - Nope  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:38 AM   #53 
                       - That's the way Europe understands the request!  elf   Jun-19-04 10:18 AM   #35 
                          - They are busily spreading chaos as fast as they can!  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 10:24 AM   #38 
                             - What sort of intervention do you have in mind?  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:25 AM   #40 
                             - UN resolutions!!!  elf   Jun-19-04 10:32 AM   #48 
                             - Ha! Bush calls himself a uniter, not a divider  elf   Jun-19-04 10:28 AM   #42 
                    - I'm fine with that.  Peak_Oil   Jun-19-04 10:29 AM   #43 
                       - Tell this the pentagon  elf   Jun-19-04 10:35 AM   #51 
                          - Rather than telling the Pentagon, I make Chomsky CD's and will pass  Peak_Oil   Jun-19-04 12:24 PM   #65 
                    - I think, there is still  elf   Jun-19-04 10:08 AM   #30 
                       - The US is not the only world power left.  Peak_Oil   Jun-19-04 12:23 PM   #64 
  - Then it had better not pass.  HypnoToad   Jun-19-04 09:08 AM   #6 
  - Not to forget the 2001 spy plane incident that Hamhock* stumbled through..  HypnoToad   Jun-19-04 09:06 AM   #3 
  - they should veto it!!!  EdGy   Jun-19-04 09:09 AM   #7 
  - How about a link? (n/t)  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 09:18 AM   #10 
  - Sorry about that  elf   Jun-19-04 09:22 AM   #13 
     - Thanks!  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 09:29 AM   #15 
        - The strange thing is,  elf   Jun-19-04 09:45 AM   #17 
  - Our exemption expires in two weeks  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 09:49 AM   #18 
  - Why do we need war crimes exemption?  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 09:51 AM   #19 
  - The original idea is valid  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 09:52 AM   #21 
     - No  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 09:56 AM   #22 
     - No, I deliberately DIDN'T include Iraq  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 09:58 AM   #24 
        - Then why are they demanding a resolution?  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 10:01 AM   #26 
           - A resolution will make life easier for them  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:05 AM   #28 
              - Not true  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 10:26 AM   #41 
     - The ICC is the court of "last resort"  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 10:02 AM   #27 
     - The U.S. hasn't signed on to the ICC  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:05 AM   #29 
        - Then explain why it needs an "immunity" resolution.  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 10:16 AM   #33 
           - Again, immunity is simpler  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:18 AM   #34 
              - But the "nasty press" would be a GOOD THING!  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 10:31 AM   #46 
                 - Exactly  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 10:33 AM   #49 
                 - You might want those things, you might even get a few  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 10:35 AM   #50 
                    - Wrong again  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 10:42 AM   #54 
                    - I saw a Dutch video  elf   Jun-19-04 10:55 AM   #56 
                    - No American president will be held on trial at the Hague  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 11:12 AM   #57 
                       - I don't belief either  elf   Jun-19-04 11:20 AM   #58 
                       - International laws sound good  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 11:21 AM   #59 
                       - How do you know  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 01:42 PM   #67 
                    - Well, I don't, of course, have a functioning crystal ball...  scarletwoman   Jun-19-04 10:44 AM   #55 
     - You commit a war crime, you should be prosecuted, simple as that...  Spazito   Jun-19-04 11:49 AM   #61 
        - No, the original concept is to avoid endless prosecution  Baltimoreboy   Jun-19-04 12:08 PM   #63 
           - Horse puckey!  Spazito   Jun-19-04 12:39 PM   #66 
           - That was the *story* for the original concept  wtmusic   Jun-19-04 01:44 PM   #68 
  - It's getting pretty bad when China has to be our conscience...  Q   Jun-19-04 10:23 AM   #37 
  - like I said it here:  elf   Jun-19-04 10:30 AM   #45 
  - Good! No nation should support ANY nation's exemption from  leesa   Jun-19-04 11:39 AM   #60 
  - American soldiers only hand out candy to smiling children.  bandera   Jun-19-04 12:05 PM   #62 
 

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