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144. Like I said, Nudity is the best policy
And no, men, for the most part don't judge each other by the clothes they wear. Do you see many fashion shows with male models? Magazines? In fact, most men are more comfortable in Uniform, no?

Thoreau said something like.."Isn't my presence enough? Why Is it that I am also expected to bring presents?"

The mere fact that someone shows up to pay respect should be enough. One should not be judged or looked down on because of their 'cover'.

Ya know, I'm getting a little tired of folks being accused of Hate, when all they are doing is pointing out the obvious. What ever happened to tolerance and respect of personal opinion?

There being a difference between how women think and how men think, viva la difference!, it is not a crime to say so, at least it didn't used to be. The way things are going, it won't be long before any descriptive analysis will be outlawed!
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  -Why do Americans always dress like they're headed to the ballpark? pbl  Jun-07-04 02:53 PM   #0 
  - The ballparks tend to not let naked people in  Az   Jun-07-04 02:55 PM   #1 
  - Cute...  pbl   Jun-07-04 02:57 PM   #2 
  - American's have always dressed like that.....  stavka   Jun-08-04 05:03 PM   #197 
  - It's California  RatTerrier   Jun-07-04 03:02 PM   #3 
  - If I have legs like Patti  OaktownGrrl   Jun-07-04 03:04 PM   #8 
  - The years have been kind to her  RatTerrier   Jun-07-04 03:07 PM   #10 
  - LOL  lancdem   Jun-07-04 03:20 PM   #17 
  - I noticed how much Patti looks like her Mom....  readmylips   Jun-07-04 03:36 PM   #19 
     - Actually there are black folks not too far from Simi Valley....  justjones   Jun-08-04 12:14 AM   #120 
        - Blacks did come ...  lanparty   Jun-08-04 09:01 AM   #141 
           - LOL! (n/t)  justjones   Jun-08-04 11:13 AM   #153 
  - definitely more relaxed here  seekthetruth   Jun-07-04 05:49 PM   #65 
  - I totally agree, but I think it's a small minority...  DeepModem Mom   Jun-07-04 03:02 PM   #4 
  - maybe cause it is hot  MsUnderstood   Jun-07-04 03:02 PM   #5 
  - Not everyone dressed up for Wellstone's memorial service,  playahata1   Jun-07-04 03:03 PM   #6 
  - I would have worn mourning for Paul;  fertilizeonarbusto   Jun-07-04 03:04 PM   #9 
  - I imagine we'll see more appropriate attire in Washington.  VolcanoJen   Jun-07-04 03:04 PM   #7 
  - There will be a lot more tourists coming through DC  jdsmith   Jun-07-04 03:09 PM   #14 
  - it's Clinton's fault  Cocoa   Jun-07-04 03:07 PM   #11 
  - lol  Vickers   Jun-07-04 06:49 PM   #76 
  - Actually, Jimmy Carter was the first casual dressing president.  ArkDem   Jun-08-04 01:42 PM   #175 
     - Ah, cmon  I Lean Left   Jun-08-04 09:53 PM   #223 
  - Who defines what's "appropriate"?  slavkomae   Jun-07-04 03:08 PM   #12 
  - I define what is appropriate  AngryAmish   Jun-07-04 03:21 PM   #18 
  - I'm not saying to my specifications  pbl   Jun-07-04 03:54 PM   #24 
  - I'm aware there are unwritten dress codes.  slavkomae   Jun-07-04 04:08 PM   #28 
  - Fine, dress how you wish to express what you want  pbl   Jun-07-04 04:29 PM   #33 
     - Well, as for me...  slavkomae   Jun-07-04 08:38 PM   #85 
     - I've been to the Reagan Library. It's not a formal, imposing building  catzies   Jun-07-04 09:21 PM   #101 
     - I don't think jeans have anything to do with "respect" or lack thereof  Selwynn   Jun-08-04 12:12 PM   #167 
  - Back in the 1970's I interviewed an applicant  fiziwig   Jun-07-04 05:33 PM   #58 
  - Um.... I attend services at several different synagogues  ikojo   Jun-07-04 06:40 PM   #74 
  - Believe it or not there are common rules of etiquette  Bandit   Jun-07-04 04:56 PM   #41 
     - Oooh  slavkomae   Jun-07-04 08:39 PM   #86 
     - Seems to me that going casual is the new herd mentality.  cestmoi   Jun-08-04 10:09 AM   #145 
        - That's ridiculous,  slavkomae   Jun-08-04 10:32 AM   #147 
           - Half right  RememberTheCoup   Jun-08-04 11:07 AM   #152 
           - You have the right, of course  slavkomae   Jun-08-04 11:13 AM   #154 
              - Someone I worked with died recently.  RememberTheCoup   Jun-08-04 11:33 AM   #159 
                 - What about the concept...  slavkomae   Jun-08-04 11:48 AM   #161 
           - Fornal is not a uniform, it simply means that some effort  cestmoi   Jun-08-04 11:25 AM   #156 
           - Oh really?  slavkomae   Jun-08-04 11:49 AM   #162 
           - "Casual" has become a uniform. n/t  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 11:29 AM   #158 
     - Etiquette is the glue that keeps a civil society "civil"  Rowdyboy   Jun-07-04 09:03 PM   #94 
     - That's right  psychopomp   Jun-07-04 09:30 PM   #102 
     - "Etiquette" is the way we hide our ignorance ...  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 01:37 AM   #124 
        - We just called it good manners and respect but  Rowdyboy   Jun-08-04 01:48 AM   #125 
     - And what does etiquette say...  RememberTheCoup   Jun-08-04 08:01 AM   #136 
     - I know them, but I reserve the right to follow my own rules of conduct...  Selwynn   Jun-08-04 12:14 PM   #168 
  - Interesting, -I think it's that most ppl  Lin   Jun-07-04 03:08 PM   #13 
  - RESPECT? How do you dress to show disrespect? Shorts and jeans...  indigobusiness   Jun-07-04 03:09 PM   #15 
  - Why is it that some people get all uptight...  fiziwig   Jun-07-04 03:14 PM   #16 
  - Why Is It Some People Get All Uptight  cryingshame   Jun-07-04 04:57 PM   #42 
     - Why Is It Some People Get All Uptight  TahitiNut   Jun-07-04 05:18 PM   #51 
     - Semi-formal means tuxedo, morning coat and striped pants during the day  IMModerate   Jun-07-04 05:22 PM   #52 
     - A sign of respect in whose eyes?  fiziwig   Jun-07-04 05:27 PM   #55 
     - You have a point  pbl   Jun-07-04 05:33 PM   #57 
     - Hogwash, Every Culture That's Ever Been Has A Dress Code  cryingshame   Jun-07-04 06:24 PM   #70 
     - You certainly didn't offend me. Let's hope we never meet at a funeral,  mgdecombe   Jun-07-04 11:52 PM   #116 
     - You Have A Distaste For Ritual? Too Bad, It's Your Loss.  cryingshame   Jun-07-04 06:22 PM   #69 
        - Great post!  Rowdyboy   Jun-07-04 09:06 PM   #95 
        - Nicely said....thanks..n/t  KoKo01   Jun-07-04 09:45 PM   #103 
        - Yes.  Pithlet   Jun-08-04 06:17 PM   #203 
     - I've said it before, and I'll say it again  kiahzero   Jun-07-04 09:13 PM   #98 
     - You got it right  GoneOffShore   Jun-08-04 10:55 AM   #150 
  - Hmmm, I was always taught that........  onecitzenBtrayed   Jun-07-04 03:36 PM   #20 
  - I don't know either..... not the way I was raised...  hlthe2b   Jun-07-04 03:46 PM   #21 
  - Because most people today weren't brought up the way the way you  Rowdyboy   Jun-07-04 03:46 PM   #22 
  - Disclaimer (or excuse as the case may be)  fiziwig   Jun-07-04 05:48 PM   #64 
  - I've had lots of friends tell me how horrible Catholic schools were  Rowdyboy   Jun-07-04 06:21 PM   #68 
  - A study in contrasts  JNelson6563   Jun-08-04 06:22 AM   #132 
  - Yes....I understand what you say...grew up the same way...still behave  KoKo01   Jun-07-04 08:05 PM   #83 
     - Thanks, It gets pretty cold out here on the fringes....  Rowdyboy   Jun-07-04 08:56 PM   #93 
        - I understand...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 10:44 AM   #149 
  - From the responses so far  pbl   Jun-07-04 03:49 PM   #23 
  - Hey, pbl! I totally agreed with you upthread...  DeepModem Mom   Jun-07-04 04:04 PM   #25 
  - Thanks  pbl   Jun-07-04 04:13 PM   #30 
  - The early crowd had been there all night.  OaktownGrrl   Jun-07-04 04:56 PM   #40 
     - I hope you're right  pbl   Jun-07-04 05:00 PM   #44 
        - Maybe they're Jewish.  IMModerate   Jun-07-04 05:30 PM   #56 
           - Baseball caps?  pbl   Jun-07-04 05:35 PM   #59 
           - They could play for the house of David  IMModerate   Jun-07-04 05:58 PM   #67 
           - Re: Maybe they're Jewish? Nothing to do with it.  SCRUBDASHRUB   Jun-08-04 05:08 PM   #198 
  - Yes...I agree, also. Replied to "Rowdyboy's" post above about it...but  KoKo01   Jun-07-04 08:06 PM   #84 
  - You're not alone..  Caliphoto   Jun-07-04 04:36 PM   #34 
  - And you, too, are not alone....  Rowdyboy   Jun-07-04 09:08 PM   #96 
  - You are not alone.  Tomee450   Jun-07-04 04:46 PM   #37 
  - Perhaps some people were treating....  Zookeeper   Jun-07-04 06:57 PM   #78 
  - because we all are  leftofthedial   Jun-07-04 04:07 PM   #26 
  - They ARE going to the ballpark.  baldguy   Jun-07-04 04:07 PM   #27 
  - it's a sign of the times . . .  OneBlueSky   Jun-07-04 04:09 PM   #29 
  - Back in those days there was no such thing as "leisure" clothes  kskiska   Jun-07-04 05:15 PM   #49 
     - With all due respect  IMModerate   Jun-07-04 05:37 PM   #61 
  - i'm dressed for comfort always n/t  gpandas   Jun-07-04 04:15 PM   #31 
  - Who said they were "paying respect"  yankeedem   Jun-07-04 04:18 PM   #32 
  - LOL!!! ROFL!! Best post on the whole thread!  loudsue   Jun-08-04 02:13 AM   #129 
  - The question is: what will Pickles be wearing on Friday?  PartyPooper   Jun-07-04 04:40 PM   #35 
  - I don't think there are any black drapes in the WH  Ilsa   Jun-07-04 04:43 PM   #36 
  - I don't think they have a choice. 2/3 sheeple are obese. They simply  KleverKittie   Jun-07-04 04:50 PM   #38 
  - Generalize much?  JulieRB   Jun-07-04 04:56 PM   #39 
  - That's just not fair or accurate  pbl   Jun-07-04 04:58 PM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-07-04 05:15 PM   #50 
  - absolutely hilarious  wellstone_democrat   Jun-07-04 05:55 PM   #66 
  - do they make hats for lard brains?  gpandas   Jun-07-04 05:23 PM   #53 
  - As someone who has way too much lard in her ass, I disagree  doni_georgia   Jun-07-04 06:34 PM   #72 
  - Maybe so, maybe not; but  shimmergal   Jun-08-04 12:25 AM   #121 
  - It's really obvious in Japan  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-07-04 05:07 PM   #45 
  - Look at 1920s ballpark photos and what do you see?...  Westegg   Jun-07-04 05:09 PM   #46 
  - Woah...does it matter? I threw away all my suits and ties 40 years ago  mike1963   Jun-07-04 05:13 PM   #47 
  - I think this is pretty much the norm for this country, these days.  in_cog_ni_to   Jun-07-04 05:14 PM   #48 
  - This is a very good question  Feeney2   Jun-07-04 05:26 PM   #54 
  - When I go out to dinner, my minimum dress is  gristy   Jun-07-04 05:36 PM   #60 
  - Air Travel. It looks like seniors in Florida.  Feeney2   Jun-07-04 05:40 PM   #62 
  - Air Travel is the way people used to travel on buses and still do, I guess  KoKo01   Jun-07-04 09:52 PM   #105 
  - You put on a suit to sit in a plane?  IMModerate   Jun-07-04 05:41 PM   #63 
  - sorry  seekthetruth   Jun-07-04 06:30 PM   #71 
  - How comfortable?  gristy   Jun-07-04 06:59 PM   #80 
     - sweats are ok  seekthetruth   Jun-07-04 11:52 PM   #117 
  - Reminds me of an old Sopranos episode  yankeedem   Jun-08-04 04:02 PM   #193 
  - I lived next to two funeral homes for a couple of years  dsc   Jun-07-04 06:37 PM   #73 
  - It's a general decline in  Piperay   Jun-07-04 06:43 PM   #75 
  - Since the dawn of history "Change" has always been called "Decline"  fiziwig   Jun-08-04 01:33 PM   #174 
     - Completely unrelated.  RememberTheCoup   Jun-08-04 02:30 PM   #181 
        - You missed the point  fiziwig   Jun-08-04 02:36 PM   #182 
  - It could be that people are dressing in what they can afford.  Lars39   Jun-07-04 06:55 PM   #77 
  - I never heard of poverty-stricken people  Lydia Leftcoast   Jun-07-04 08:51 PM   #90 
  - Oh, you mean the tourist look, the trademarked Ugly American look.  Lars39   Jun-07-04 09:13 PM   #99 
  - that is nonsense  dsc   Jun-07-04 09:49 PM   #104 
  - I try to give people the benefit of the doubt on such things.  Lars39   Jun-07-04 09:53 PM   #106 
  - I don't know. In the South in the Depression my Grandma said folks could  KoKo01   Jun-07-04 10:01 PM   #107 
     - Society mores.  Lars39   Jun-07-04 10:24 PM   #110 
  - Hilarious thread  BeFree   Jun-07-04 06:58 PM   #79 
  - Who here on this thread do you think doesn't spend 24/7 worried about all  KoKo01   Jun-07-04 10:07 PM   #108 
     - Like i said, KoKo  BeFree   Jun-07-04 11:59 PM   #118 
        - "womanly"?  RememberTheCoup   Jun-08-04 08:26 AM   #137 
        - Like I said, Nudity is the best policy  BeFree   Jun-08-04 09:55 AM   #144 
           - "men, for the most part don't judge each other by the clothes they wear"  RememberTheCoup   Jun-08-04 10:23 AM   #146 
              - Nudity is even cheaper!  BeFree   Jun-08-04 10:38 AM   #148 
        - "womanly" conversation?  Pithlet   Jun-08-04 06:59 PM   #210 
  - Maybe a lot of those that were visiting were just making sure the  TankLV   Jun-07-04 07:27 PM   #81 
  - Shouldn't question be: Why do Repugs dress like they're headed  cestmoi   Jun-07-04 07:59 PM   #82 
  - Hah, my husband always said that white people dress like hell  Logansquare   Jun-07-04 08:44 PM   #87 
  - True! African Americans are the best dressed among us...Go by any  KoKo01   Jun-07-04 10:12 PM   #109 
     - So I guess...  misanthrope   Jun-08-04 08:51 AM   #139 
  - There isnt anything wrong with Tshirt and Jeans.  TexasMexican   Jun-07-04 08:48 PM   #88 
  - Not to pay your respect. It's tacky.  alcuno   Jun-07-04 08:51 PM   #91 
     - It's even MORE tacky to be disrespectful towards others for their attire..  jus_the_facts   Jun-08-04 09:50 PM   #222 
        - Sigh...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 10:45 PM   #224 
           - NO SHIT...so suddenly I DO NOT have the right to voice MY opinion?  jus_the_facts   Jun-08-04 11:47 PM   #226 
              - I'm sorry...  Zookeeper   Jun-09-04 12:12 AM   #227 
                 - LMAO.....  jus_the_facts   Jun-09-04 12:41 AM   #228 
  - Historically  hippywife   Jun-07-04 08:50 PM   #89 
  - In So. CA at this time of year, it probably was a tourist event.  Cleita   Jun-07-04 08:52 PM   #92 
  - Women at my office (not me) routinely wear clothing 2 sizes too small.  greatauntoftriplets   Jun-07-04 09:11 PM   #97 
  - Lots of folks do. It's not just how it looks, though.  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 01:50 AM   #126 
  - Bondage, I like that analogy....  greatauntoftriplets   Jun-08-04 08:57 AM   #140 
     - There's nothing more attractive than healthy behavior, imho.  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 09:35 AM   #143 
        - But,but, but....  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 12:04 PM   #164 
           - Yes, and some people enjoy sado-masochism, too.  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 12:09 PM   #165 
              - I'm not sure how that equals s/m...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 12:24 PM   #170 
                 - So, without cosmetics women are "dull, drab, and boring"??  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 01:04 PM   #171 
                    - You didn't appear to be referring only to cosmetics...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 01:31 PM   #173 
                       - "rigid"? "puritanical"? "oppressive"?  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 03:47 PM   #190 
                          - Wow! Does this qualify as a flame war?  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 05:46 PM   #200 
                             - Nawww... I don't "do" flame wars.  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 07:31 PM   #216 
                                - I was a little kid in 1963...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 07:55 PM   #219 
  - You have a point  1gobluedem   Jun-08-04 11:38 AM   #160 
  - How true...  sadiesworld   Jun-07-04 09:18 PM   #100 
  - Apparently there's always time for provincialism.  IMModerate   Jun-07-04 10:54 PM   #111 
  - Perhaps I'll kill this thread by noting...  Zookeeper   Jun-07-04 11:31 PM   #112 
  - shorts and jeans aren't disrespectful  LWolf   Jun-07-04 11:36 PM   #113 
  - I hear you, LWolf...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 12:11 AM   #119 
     - Casual and "not too much effort" I can agree with.  shimmergal   Jun-08-04 12:40 AM   #122 
     - Well, shimmergal...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 01:02 AM   #123 
     - That makes sense.  LWolf   Jun-08-04 07:57 AM   #135 
        - As far as the Reagan viewing...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 11:25 AM   #155 
           - I'm really enjoying this conversation.  LWolf   Jun-08-04 09:16 PM   #221 
              - Thank YOU, LWolf!  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 10:50 PM   #225 
  - How would Reagan have dressed to go to their funerals?  mgdecombe   Jun-07-04 11:45 PM   #114 
  - Men used to wear ties to ballparks  theboss   Jun-07-04 11:48 PM   #115 
  - The men who used to wear ties to the ballpark  fiziwig   Jun-08-04 01:43 PM   #176 
     - I don't see your point  theboss   Jun-08-04 02:05 PM   #178 
     - Hmmm....  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 02:29 PM   #180 
  - I attended the Hiroshima memorial service in August 1989  Art_from_Ark   Jun-08-04 01:54 AM   #127 
  - Yeah... things were so much better in "Pleasantville"  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 02:10 AM   #128 
  - A stranger thread I've never read  loudsue   Jun-08-04 03:12 AM   #130 
  - Dressing for a funeral  paulie5   Jun-08-04 06:04 AM   #131 
  - More Americans can't afford a suit than ever before.  stavka   Jun-08-04 07:23 AM   #133 
  - I agree...  deseo   Jun-08-04 07:28 AM   #134 
  - Back in the  FlaGranny   Jun-08-04 08:34 AM   #138 
  - Did Ted Nugent show up ...  lanparty   Jun-08-04 09:06 AM   #142 
  - Contrast it with visiting either the Vatican or St. Mark's in Venice...  IrateCitizen   Jun-08-04 10:58 AM   #151 
  - On Saturday I saw  jokerman2004   Jun-08-04 11:28 AM   #157 
  - My dad died last year. In February. In Western PA.  bunnyj   Jun-08-04 11:53 AM   #163 
  - and what if they HAD worn shorts and tank tops?  RememberTheCoup   Jun-08-04 01:58 PM   #177 
     - Yeah, shorts and tank tops at dad's viewing would have  bunnyj   Jun-08-04 04:02 PM   #191 
  - Fuck that.  Selwynn   Jun-08-04 12:11 PM   #166 
  - I once didn't hire someone for wearing the wrong shoes to the interview.  theboss   Jun-08-04 12:19 PM   #169 
     - That's pretty sad.  DrWeird   Jun-08-04 02:11 PM   #179 
     - Gender, orientation and skin color...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 02:42 PM   #184 
     - He was an attorney  theboss   Jun-08-04 03:11 PM   #186 
        - And it doesn't cost anything to brush the mud off. n/t  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 06:08 PM   #202 
     - That was one very lucky person.  fiziwig   Jun-08-04 02:41 PM   #183 
     - It was an interview.  theboss   Jun-08-04 03:13 PM   #187 
     - Just to set the record straight  fiziwig   Jun-08-04 03:37 PM   #189 
        - Outside Washington, DC  theboss   Jun-08-04 04:02 PM   #192 
     - The whole package  GoneOffShore   Jun-08-04 03:27 PM   #188 
     - I did that too...  stavka   Jun-08-04 05:01 PM   #196 
     - I wouldn't want to work for you in the first place...  Selwynn   Jun-09-04 01:04 AM   #229 
  - because we're smart and if you were gonna spend 3 & up hours driving......  ElsewheresDaughter   Jun-08-04 01:04 PM   #172 
  - So many people dress like that all the time....so trashy  XanthaS   Jun-08-04 02:47 PM   #185 
  - I guess for many, every day is Halloween!  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 04:03 PM   #194 
  - Ya know...  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 06:05 PM   #201 
  - WTF?? I guess bein' SHALLOW isn't just a puke trait these days....  jus_the_facts   Jun-08-04 04:11 PM   #195 
  - Wow! I won an award  pbl   Jun-08-04 05:12 PM   #199 
     - I didn't BOTHER because it's IRRELEVANT and not worth my TIME!  jus_the_facts   Jun-08-04 06:19 PM   #204 
        - Wow!  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 06:41 PM   #206 
        - Alrighty then....  jus_the_facts   Jun-08-04 06:52 PM   #208 
           - Your point has been explored in this thread....  Zookeeper   Jun-08-04 06:58 PM   #209 
              - Woooopiddy DOOOOOO!  jus_the_facts   Jun-08-04 07:13 PM   #212 
        - I think there are variety of things that we can discuss without  pbl   Jun-08-04 06:45 PM   #207 
           - HA....yeah I agree....AMAZING is the KEY word here....  jus_the_facts   Jun-08-04 07:07 PM   #211 
              - You're sounding a bit angry  pbl   Jun-08-04 07:16 PM   #214 
                 - Apology accepted....and please accept one from me as well.....  jus_the_facts   Jun-08-04 07:30 PM   #215 
                    - Apology accepted  pbl   Jun-08-04 08:05 PM   #220 
  - I live 15 minutes from the Ray-gun  LibDemAlways   Jun-08-04 06:20 PM   #205 
  - Shit, after Reagan, that's probably all that they could afford  JanMichael   Jun-08-04 07:14 PM   #213 
     - (Hmmm... ) My "Hawaiian" shirt cost me $85 ...  TahitiNut   Jun-08-04 07:45 PM   #217 
        - Magnum, is that you???  Misinformed01   Jun-08-04 07:50 PM   #218 
           - I would say definitely a California thing  Lindsey   Jun-09-04 01:12 AM   #230 
 

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