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Wed Jun-02-04 02:26 PM
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| 75. Complete withdrawal from VietNam: naive thinking. |
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The notion that you can fix a botch by botching it
some more is what's naive. Lots of colonial experiments
have been abandoned precipitously. Mr. Kerry's position
is political, not practical. He will get us out of Iraq
because he will have no choice.
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| -Complete withdraw from Iraq: naive thinking. |
malatesta1137 |
Jun-02-04 11:19 AM |
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I disagree 100% |
Walt Starr |
Jun-02-04 11:20 AM |
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More wisdom from Walt |
sangh0 |
Jun-02-04 12:27 PM |
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I've got a great idea! |
kiahzero |
Jun-02-04 12:55 PM |
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Bring the troops home NOW |
Walt Starr |
Jun-02-04 01:34 PM |
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There's that liberal compassion |
kiahzero |
Jun-02-04 01:44 PM |
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We cannot win with our forces there, we will only lost more American lives |
Walt Starr |
Jun-02-04 01:49 PM |
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"We cannot win" - win what? |
kiahzero |
Jun-02-04 02:07 PM |
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The war was LOST the instant we started shelling them |
Walt Starr |
Jun-02-04 02:08 PM |
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I'll ask again - Win what? |
kiahzero |
Jun-02-04 02:16 PM |
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We can't help them ... |
lanparty |
Jun-02-04 07:22 PM |
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You have two assertions to back up with evidence: |
truthspeaker |
Jun-02-04 11:23 AM |
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True, but leave Iraq without any kind of security force, |
jpgray |
Jun-02-04 11:25 AM |
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but we do not have a security force to put in there |
truthspeaker |
Jun-02-04 11:27 AM |
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It would have to be an Iraqi force--even local militia |
jpgray |
Jun-02-04 11:29 AM |
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Congo? Apples and oranges |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 12:08 PM |
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Not a direct comparison |
jpgray |
Jun-02-04 12:21 PM |
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OK, now I get what you're suggesting |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 12:27 PM |
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Yes--either way, we have to go |
jpgray |
Jun-02-04 12:34 PM |
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Wrong |
libcurious |
Jun-02-04 12:42 PM |
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Which would be fine. |
aquart |
Jun-02-04 11:34 AM |
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Yes, Iran is host to many Iraqi religious leaders as well |
jpgray |
Jun-02-04 11:36 AM |
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We could go in circles for days about this |
rucky |
Jun-02-04 11:25 AM |
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Social workers? Ridiculous. |
aquart |
Jun-02-04 11:26 AM |
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The Red Crescent?! A threat?! |
rucky |
Jun-02-04 11:29 AM |
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Sigh... |
webster_green |
Jun-02-04 11:28 AM |
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I also disagree 100% |
bloom |
Jun-02-04 11:30 AM |
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You Have No Say In Iraq's Future |
Solidarity |
Jun-02-04 11:32 AM |
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Well Halliburton ... |
lanparty |
Jun-02-04 07:28 PM |
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Yes, so that's what the television tells us. Sigh. |
info being |
Jun-02-04 11:32 AM |
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Don't get too discouraged |
troublemaker |
Jun-02-04 11:44 AM |
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The problem with your analysis in this case... |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 12:12 PM |
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Americans created this bloody mess |
malatesta1137 |
Jun-02-04 11:45 AM |
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You're being completely disingenuous here |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 12:04 PM |
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so, you don't have any evidence that Al Qaeda is in Iraq then? |
truthspeaker |
Jun-02-04 12:06 PM |
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here, brainy: |
malatesta1137 |
Jun-02-04 12:25 PM |
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ah yes, the objective MSNBC news |
truthspeaker |
Jun-02-04 12:29 PM |
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very naive the one |
malatesta1137 |
Jun-02-04 12:42 PM |
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And our military presence there is to force them out how, exactly? |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 12:30 PM |
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You're just reflecting the wilfull ignorance of the mainstream media. |
Minstrel Boy |
Jun-02-04 12:37 PM |
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www.bringthemhomenow.org |
goodhue |
Jun-02-04 11:47 AM |
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Read Rashid Khalidi's book "Resurrecting Empire". |
greatauntoftriplets |
Jun-02-04 11:51 AM |
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#1: Halliburton out now. |
H2O Man |
Jun-02-04 11:52 AM |
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Some of us were adamant in signing a petition that began: |
Marianne |
Jun-02-04 11:57 AM |
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disagree - bring the troops home now; no huge embassy |
donsu |
Jun-02-04 11:58 AM |
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The exact same thing was said about Vietnam |
Bandit |
Jun-02-04 11:58 AM |
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Power vacuums are filled by those with the guns. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 12:39 PM |
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yeah, and the biggest gang is us |
truthspeaker |
Jun-02-04 12:40 PM |
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That's goddamned right. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 12:45 PM |
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I shouldn't be ashamed that my country is occuping another illegally? |
truthspeaker |
Jun-02-04 12:47 PM |
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You should accept it, get over yourself, and move on. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 12:53 PM |
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No, it isn't OUR situation |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 12:56 PM |
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Wanna bet? |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 01:21 PM |
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Our "gang" only creates instability to drum up protection rackets |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 12:54 PM |
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I find that a very condescending statement |
Bandit |
Jun-02-04 12:44 PM |
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But we're already involved, and we can't turn back time. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 12:51 PM |
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Tell me where in the Middle East that a Strongman doesn't rule? |
Bandit |
Jun-02-04 01:05 PM |
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Actually, there is one that is working away from a "strongman" |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 01:13 PM |
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Some despots are less enlightened than others. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 01:14 PM |
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You've forgotten a major player in all this |
kiahzero |
Jun-02-04 01:31 PM |
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When are you enlisting in the army? |
apathy |
Jun-02-04 12:16 PM |
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Absolutely. Groups in Iraq have their own ideas for Iraq's future. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 12:35 PM |
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How much did the CIA pay you to say that? |
truthspeaker |
Jun-02-04 12:41 PM |
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Spare us the drama about the CIA. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 12:55 PM |
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Unbelievable... |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 12:42 PM |
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Maybe just unpalatable. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 01:05 PM |
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Unpalatable is too mild. I'd say it's more like insanity. |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 01:15 PM |
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Welcome aboard. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 01:27 PM |
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That's right -- that's why it's my duty to do what I can to stop it |
IrateCitizen |
Jun-02-04 01:32 PM |
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What I want matters very little. |
Monte Carlo |
Jun-02-04 01:45 PM |
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When did you start thinking that the US was 'stabilizing' Iraq? |
eridani |
Jun-02-04 06:08 PM |
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Nope .. |
lanparty |
Jun-02-04 07:33 PM |
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This reminds me of Monday |
Thankfully_in_Britain |
Jun-02-04 12:41 PM |
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Naive thinking the Iraqis want us there... |
JCMach1 |
Jun-02-04 12:50 PM |
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Whatever |
RetroLounge |
Jun-02-04 12:55 PM |
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I can only hope that I stay naive, far from the "realism"... |
thebigidea |
Jun-02-04 01:36 PM |
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and around and around we go |
methinks2 |
Jun-02-04 01:52 PM |
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Yikes ...someone is indeed naive ... |
welshTerrier2 |
Jun-02-04 01:53 PM |
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Catch-22 |
whosinpower |
Jun-02-04 01:54 PM |
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Complete withdrawal from VietNam: naive thinking. |
bemildred |
Jun-02-04 02:26 PM |
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America will withdraw. |
Karenina |
Jun-02-04 06:20 PM |
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Troops Will Be Pulled Out Of Iraq |
Solidarity |
Jun-02-04 06:29 PM |
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It's encouraging ... |
lanparty |
Jun-02-04 07:37 PM |
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My own opinion, which I posted once before, |
bemildred |
Jun-02-04 06:51 PM |
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"Staying in Iraq: American thinking." |
Saeba |
Jun-02-04 07:28 PM |
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why isn't the wishes of the iraqis ever taken into account? |
KG |
Jun-02-04 07:33 PM |
#83 |
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