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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #5
180. I agree
I think Jimmy Carter is as honest as a politician gets.
And any thying I hear about Chavez is that he is either a wanne be dictator or a savior. I'll wait until something objective and less polarized comes out before if I decide that I like or trust Chavez.
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  -Who's honesty and integrity do you respect more: Carter vs Chavez Feanorcurufinwe  Jun-02-04 09:46 AM   #0 
  - Why does this have to be either-or? They both have integrity.  AP   Jun-02-04 09:49 AM   #1 
  - It doesn't have to be. If you don't like choosing, don't vote. nt  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:53 AM   #3 
     - His comments are accurate though  el_gato   Jun-02-04 10:36 AM   #4 
        - Actually those comments were totally offtopic.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:40 AM   #5 
           - I was saying you can't compare them on integrity. But you can compare them  AP   Jun-02-04 10:56 AM   #11 
           - I understood your post, that;s why I said it was off-topic.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:10 AM   #17 
              - If you don't understand the subtleties, I'm not surprised you don't...  AP   Jun-02-04 02:06 PM   #35 
                 - I understand you perfectly, your attempt to insult me is not impressive.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 02:43 PM   #43 
                    - If I started talking about the wind and the sea, that would be off topic.  AP   Jun-02-04 03:21 PM   #51 
                       - I understand that you will never admit your post was off-topic.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:41 PM   #62 
                       - Even if one does post off topic, I wouldn't characterize it as "failure"  AP   Jun-02-04 03:51 PM   #67 
                          - I have no interest in you personally, nor in your opinion of me.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:15 PM   #75 
                             - Then why did are you talking about my capacity for admitting failure?  AP   Jun-02-04 04:31 PM   #77 
                                - I don't need to. You are putting on a demonstration for us.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:37 PM   #79 
                                   - Right-o.  AP   Jun-02-04 04:42 PM   #81 
                       - You do see the irony, don't you? n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:53 PM   #70 
                          - No, only you are capable of that, the rest of us are idiots.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:14 PM   #74 
                             - "Don't put words in my mouth" -- don't you say that?  AP   Jun-02-04 04:33 PM   #78 
                                - What words did I supposedly put in your mouth?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:42 PM   #82 
                                   - You say Vlad's calling everyone an idiot when he didn't.  AP   Jun-02-04 04:46 PM   #84 
                                      - No, I said  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 05:04 PM   #85 
                                      - Actually his response  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:08 PM   #89 
                                         - But you are going to have to explain it to me  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:35 PM   #104 
                                            - I wonder if I should  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:37 PM   #107 
                                            - Pretty please  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:43 PM   #112 
                                               - I would but I am too busy laughing n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:49 PM   #118 
                                               - That's not true.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:51 PM   #121 
                                            - If I may. I think it's an inside joke. n/t  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:37 PM   #108 
           - I agree  Zuni   Jun-02-04 09:54 PM   #180 
              - Choose Knowlege. Take an active part in your education.  AP   Jun-03-04 12:32 AM   #209 
                 - AP, you couldn't be more appropriate.  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 05:01 AM   #210 
  - I trust no-one unconditionally in all circumstances  htuttle   Jun-02-04 09:52 AM   #2 
  - Well lets see here  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:44 AM   #6 
  - History will have it's own judgement.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:45 AM   #7 
  - I don't doubt it  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:47 AM   #8 
     - Does that mean Chavez is honest? LOL  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:52 AM   #9 
        - Just establishing  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:54 AM   #10 
        - You are repeating a non sequitur as if it has some validity. It doesn't.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:57 AM   #12 
           - Maybe we are working at cross purposes here  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 11:02 AM   #13 
           - This thread is about Chavez's integrity vs Carter's integrity  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:07 AM   #15 
              - interesting reading your responses to this  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 03:29 PM   #55 
              - Where's the light in your response?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:42 PM   #63 
                 - I don't dislike you  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 03:52 PM   #69 
                    - In that case you aren't stating your point very well. What is it?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:13 PM   #73 
                       - no, I'm not  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 06:25 PM   # 
              - you have a good point  Zuni   Jun-02-04 10:01 PM   #181 
           - Missing the point  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:24 PM   #52 
              - Yes you are missing the point.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:45 PM   #64 
                 - Huh?  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:59 PM   #71 
                    - You are pretending that only people who agree with your views are credible  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:13 PM   #72 
        - No politician is honest...  Darranar   Jun-02-04 04:44 PM   #83 
  - Carter never attempted a coup himself either  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 02:10 PM   #36 
     - No but certain founding fathers did  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 02:18 PM   #39 
     - Oh but when it happens to him he's practically infallable to people here  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 02:22 PM   #40 
        - Maybe that's because  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 02:23 PM   #41 
           - And some of us prefer, for example, counting votes.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 02:46 PM   #44 
           - Who said anything about counting votes?  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 02:50 PM   #45 
              - There is a referendum petition challenge going on in Venezuela now  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:02 PM   #46 
                 - And I was talking about coups  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:05 PM   #47 
                    - You made a vacuous comment about 'Who said anything about counting votes?'  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:12 PM   #48 
                       - Because you responded to  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:14 PM   #49 
                       - This is about counting votes.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:17 PM   #50 
                       - Signatures are not votes...  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:35 PM   #59 
                          - "Jimmy Carter is a trasparent shill" for American Republicans.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:40 PM   #61 
                             - "in this situation"  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:51 PM   #68 
                                - You are welcome to your opinion, even one that is so obviously wrong.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:17 PM   #76 
                                   - Duh  debsianben   Jun-02-04 04:39 PM   #80 
                                      - My view is that  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 05:13 PM   #86 
                                         - You really ought to work in PR  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:12 PM   #90 
                                            - Puerto Rico is too far of a commute nt  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:14 PM   #91 
                                               - Good! We don't want you here.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:18 PM   #92 
                                               - I've never understood why some folks on DU like to insult other DUers.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:24 PM   #94 
                                               - Me too  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:25 PM   #96 
                                               - Because they are evil commie/fascist tyrant loving bastards. Just a guess.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:27 PM   #98 
                                               - I'd re-think that career in comedy if I were you.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:31 PM   #101 
                                               - Was it as bad a your attempts at journalism?  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:34 PM   #103 
                                               - Still waiting for the joke.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:44 PM   #114 
                                               - I don't think anyone could wake you up if they tried.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:48 PM   #116 
                                               - Look we arlready know you want to insult me.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:20 PM   #146 
                                               - I know you are, but what am I?  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 08:28 PM   #149 
                                               - This post  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:41 PM   #152 
                                               - DAMN YOU! Can't...help ....self......must reply...............n/t  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 08:42 PM   #153 
                                               - Damn you both! I will have the last word here!!! n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 08:43 PM   #154 
                                               - This is a riot  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 08:44 PM   #155 
                                               - Noooooooo! Must.... have.... last... word.... !!! n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 08:46 PM   #156 
                                               - Kick  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:48 PM   #159 
                                               - Glad you are enjoying it.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:47 PM   #158 
                                               - Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies... n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 08:49 PM   #160 
                                               - nt  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:50 PM   #161 
                                               - Nice try Fean,but you really dont want to go there  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 08:50 PM   #162 
                                               - lol  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:54 PM   #164 
                                               - If you decide to break the rules that your decision  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 08:56 PM   #165 
                                               - I apologize for being immature enough to respond to your flamebait.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:00 PM   #167 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-02-04 09:02 PM   #168 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-02-04 09:06 PM   #169 
                                               - Please  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:21 PM   #170 
                                               - It's simple  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:27 PM   #172 
                                               - Now I have two PM's from you  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:30 PM   #174 
                                               - So what?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:33 PM   #175 
                                               - Not harrasing PM's  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:39 PM   #176 
                                               - LOL if a PM is 'unasked for' it is harassment?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:43 PM   #177 
                                               - Yes,it is  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:45 PM   #178 
                                               - Also  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:49 PM   #179 
                                               - OK, now that I know you consider all PMs to be harassment  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:06 PM   #183 
                                               - My feelings are fine and unhurt  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:11 PM   #187 
                                               - Doesn't look like that from here.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:16 PM   #189 
                                               - That's ok  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:21 PM   #190 
                                               - Well, the reality is, you got upset because I sent you a PM  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:25 PM   #191 
                                               - I've never understood why some folks on DU like to insult other DUers.  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:32 PM   #194 
                                               - Sometimes it is just a defense mechanism.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:35 PM   #195 
                                               - Now you're getting it  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:46 PM   #198 
                                               - No, I got it months ago.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:50 PM   #201 
                                               - lol  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:04 PM   #182 
                                               - Yes,you're right  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:06 PM   #184 
                                               - How many times are you going to ask me?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:08 PM   #185 
                                               - How many times are you going to kick this thread?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-02-04 10:30 PM   #193 
                                               - Thanks for another opportunity  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:41 PM   #196 
                                               - You bet.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-02-04 10:44 PM   #197 
                                               - 200 posts!  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:47 PM   #199 
                                               - You say you are there for me  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:48 PM   #200 
                                               - kick  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:51 PM   #202 
                                               - kick  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:52 PM   #204 
                                               - I'll kick once more...  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-02-04 10:51 PM   #203 
                                               - I gotta wonder.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:53 PM   #206 
           - Actually I prefur non-authoritarian Third-Way which much of his opposition  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 03:24 PM   #53 
              - I would appreciate some links  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:32 PM   #57 
              - No it's his RECORD  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:22 PM   #93 
              - I don't see how the currency devaluating  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:24 PM   #95 
              - I've NEVER seen an article discussing this destruction of Vene.'s economy  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 05:22 AM   #211 
              - Is that why they disolved the supreme court, national assembly,  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 03:33 PM   #58 
              - Well it certainly doesn't come from the Chavista shill website that you  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:26 PM   #97 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-02-04 06:30 PM   #100 
                 - Can I be in your horde?  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:34 PM   #102 
                 - Sure. We'll rape their Corporatist Right wing villages and  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:36 PM   #105 
                    - And devaluate the currency by 80% every year n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:39 PM   #109 
                       - It's just crazy enough to work. BWAAAAAHAAHAAHAA N/T  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:42 PM   #111 
                 - How lame can a post get?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:40 PM   #110 
                 - Please tell us. How lame?  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:44 PM   #113 
                    - Your actions speak louder than my words ever could.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:47 PM   #115 
                       - Chilllll Winstooooon! n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:48 PM   #117 
                       - Does you post mean something? What? Who is Winstooooon?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:50 PM   #120 
                          - Just a thing we used to say in high school  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:51 PM   #122 
                             - Does it have a meaning or are you just babbling nonsense?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:18 PM   #144 
                                - It is both meaningless and infantile, just like me n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 08:19 PM   #145 
                       - That's nice of you. I guess I had you all wrong. Thanks. n/t  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:49 PM   #119 
                 - What is your point? The corporate media made up how much it's  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:52 PM   #123 
                    - No. I was referring to the conduct and comments by your beloved  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:55 PM   #124 
                    - I was RESPONDING to the only question you asked.  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 07:18 PM   #127 
                       - So you didn't read JudiLyn's  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 07:22 PM   #128 
                       - Oh Jeezus effing christ do you people ever adress the substance  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 07:27 PM   #129 
                          - Point is, the opposition is fighting dirty  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 07:31 PM   #131 
                          - No.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:27 PM   #148 
                       - It is as idiotic as the belief that everything a Chavez supporter  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 07:28 PM   #130 
                    - You've hit the target!  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:56 PM   #125 
                 - WHY?  debsianben   Jun-02-04 07:06 PM   #126 
              - There's a tape of a coup plotter recently saying he thinks that 10 yrs  AP   Jun-02-04 03:37 PM   #60 
              - "The wealthy" is an extremely misleading characterization for the  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:36 PM   #106 
                 - Just like the US: super-rich are pulling the strings. Some middle class  AP   Jun-02-04 07:33 PM   #132 
                 - And some of the working class  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 07:36 PM   #135 
                 - They're probabaly pissed that heads didn't roll after the coup.  AP   Jun-02-04 07:42 PM   #137 
                    - Well I would be too  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 07:44 PM   #138 
                       - If the fascists win it won't be because Chavez didn't execute a few of ...  AP   Jun-02-04 07:49 PM   #142 
                 - One thing a Venezuelan friend told me is that.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 07:41 PM   #136 
                    - People always get pissed when you take away an entitlement. Chavez is...  AP   Jun-02-04 07:45 PM   #139 
                       - YOU MAKE ME SICK! Good day to you sir. n/t  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 07:47 PM   #140 
                          - LOL.  AP   Jun-02-04 07:50 PM   #143 
                 - It seems to me  Zuni   Jun-02-04 10:12 PM   #188 
              - thanks for making your side clear, Bombtrack  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 05:57 PM   #88 
                 - No I mean Venezuelan currency  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:27 PM   #99 
                    - how does Chavez have control over that?  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 08:21 PM   #147 
     - Maybe not...  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:27 PM   #54 
        - I wonder who is having the last laugh there... n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:30 PM   #56 
  - Its a little insulting to me to have to choose - they both have integrity  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jun-02-04 11:02 AM   #14 
  - If they were to make contradictory statements, who would you believe?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:08 AM   #16 
  - Listen - if you are trying to get people to make sweeping generalizations  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jun-02-04 11:15 AM   #18 
  - Well-said  Cursive_Knives512   Jun-02-04 11:18 AM   #19 
  - Except it ascribed motives to me that I don't have.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:25 AM   #23 
  - If you don't want to answer the poll question, don't.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:22 AM   #20 
     - I didn't answer the poll. It's my opinion that polls like these serve no  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jun-02-04 11:25 AM   #22 
        - Good for you, you have excercised your right to abstain.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:29 AM   #26 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-02-04 11:31 AM   #29 
              - I'm sorry that you choose to censor yourself and not speak your mind  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:34 AM   #30 
  - It depends on the statements  dsc   Jun-02-04 11:24 AM   #21 
     - Absolutely.  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jun-02-04 11:27 AM   #24 
     - Well let's say  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:31 AM   #27 
        - again it depends on why Chavez is saying  dsc   Jun-02-04 11:37 AM   #31 
        - I get it, you just don't want to answer.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:43 AM   #32 
           - one can be wrong without lying  dsc   Jun-02-04 12:01 PM   #33 
              - Yes, it is a hypothetical question  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 12:04 PM   #34 
        - Basis of comparison?  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:48 PM   #65 
           - What, you are implying  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:51 PM   #66 
  - agreed. Carter is one of the best  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 08:29 PM   #150 
  - Uhhhh, Jimmy Carter  sgr2   Jun-02-04 11:27 AM   #25 
  - I respect Hugo Chavez as much as Jimmy Carter  0007   Jun-02-04 11:31 AM   #28 
  - Oh yeah, whoever "stands up" to the United States is a giant of a man  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 02:14 PM   #37 
     - He respects the anti-neoliberals. So do I. You don't. Fine. Let it go.  AP   Jun-02-04 07:35 PM   #133 
        - The 'anti-neoliberals' -- what a totally meaningless phrase. nt  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:57 PM   #166 
           - You really have never heard the term "neoliberal" before?  AP   Jun-03-04 12:29 AM   #208 
  - Boo!  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-02-04 02:15 PM   #38 
  - Boo  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 02:41 PM   #42 
  - Carter deserved his Peace Prize for work he did AFTER his presidency  eridani   Jun-02-04 05:54 PM   #87 
  - Carter had worldwide concerns  Zuni   Jun-02-04 10:09 PM   #186 
  - Actually in Afganistan  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:27 PM   #192 
  - Thanks for the push I needed to get off my duff and take a quick trip  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 05:44 AM   #212 
     - Ah yes, Pol Pot  Vladimir   Jun-03-04 05:48 AM   #213 
        - That would make a sensible person wonder, wouldn't it? n/t  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 06:17 AM   #215 
  - What's the context?  ibegurpard   Jun-02-04 07:36 PM   #134 
  - The context is Venezeula's recall referendum and Carter's participation  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:38 PM   #151 
  - This antiwar.com article  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:05 PM   #207 
     - Your article has two areas which are interesting.  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 06:11 AM   #214 
  - I'm ABC -  ContinentalOp   Jun-02-04 07:47 PM   #141 
  - People people people  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 08:46 PM   #157 
  - Thanks for the kick  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:52 PM   #163 
     - Very glad to help  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:22 PM   #171 
        - Cool.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:29 PM   #173 
  - Kick  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:52 PM   #205 
  - Locking.......  Moderator   Jun-03-04 06:47 AM   #216 
 

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