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Response to Reply #53
88. thanks for making your side clear, Bombtrack
"Sorry if I don't believe it's fine and dandy for everyone in Venezuela with any property whatsoever to lose 80 percent of their wealth no matter how hard you've worked for it."

You mean land reform, right?
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  -Who's honesty and integrity do you respect more: Carter vs Chavez Feanorcurufinwe  Jun-02-04 09:46 AM   #0 
  - Why does this have to be either-or? They both have integrity.  AP   Jun-02-04 09:49 AM   #1 
  - It doesn't have to be. If you don't like choosing, don't vote. nt  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:53 AM   #3 
     - His comments are accurate though  el_gato   Jun-02-04 10:36 AM   #4 
        - Actually those comments were totally offtopic.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:40 AM   #5 
           - I was saying you can't compare them on integrity. But you can compare them  AP   Jun-02-04 10:56 AM   #11 
           - I understood your post, that;s why I said it was off-topic.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:10 AM   #17 
              - If you don't understand the subtleties, I'm not surprised you don't...  AP   Jun-02-04 02:06 PM   #35 
                 - I understand you perfectly, your attempt to insult me is not impressive.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 02:43 PM   #43 
                    - If I started talking about the wind and the sea, that would be off topic.  AP   Jun-02-04 03:21 PM   #51 
                       - I understand that you will never admit your post was off-topic.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:41 PM   #62 
                       - Even if one does post off topic, I wouldn't characterize it as "failure"  AP   Jun-02-04 03:51 PM   #67 
                          - I have no interest in you personally, nor in your opinion of me.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:15 PM   #75 
                             - Then why did are you talking about my capacity for admitting failure?  AP   Jun-02-04 04:31 PM   #77 
                                - I don't need to. You are putting on a demonstration for us.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:37 PM   #79 
                                   - Right-o.  AP   Jun-02-04 04:42 PM   #81 
                       - You do see the irony, don't you? n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:53 PM   #70 
                          - No, only you are capable of that, the rest of us are idiots.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:14 PM   #74 
                             - "Don't put words in my mouth" -- don't you say that?  AP   Jun-02-04 04:33 PM   #78 
                                - What words did I supposedly put in your mouth?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:42 PM   #82 
                                   - You say Vlad's calling everyone an idiot when he didn't.  AP   Jun-02-04 04:46 PM   #84 
                                      - No, I said  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 05:04 PM   #85 
                                      - Actually his response  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:08 PM   #89 
                                         - But you are going to have to explain it to me  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:35 PM   #104 
                                            - I wonder if I should  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:37 PM   #107 
                                            - Pretty please  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:43 PM   #112 
                                               - I would but I am too busy laughing n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:49 PM   #118 
                                               - That's not true.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:51 PM   #121 
                                            - If I may. I think it's an inside joke. n/t  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:37 PM   #108 
           - I agree  Zuni   Jun-02-04 09:54 PM   #180 
              - Choose Knowlege. Take an active part in your education.  AP   Jun-03-04 12:32 AM   #209 
                 - AP, you couldn't be more appropriate.  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 05:01 AM   #210 
  - I trust no-one unconditionally in all circumstances  htuttle   Jun-02-04 09:52 AM   #2 
  - Well lets see here  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:44 AM   #6 
  - History will have it's own judgement.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:45 AM   #7 
  - I don't doubt it  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:47 AM   #8 
     - Does that mean Chavez is honest? LOL  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:52 AM   #9 
        - Just establishing  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:54 AM   #10 
        - You are repeating a non sequitur as if it has some validity. It doesn't.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:57 AM   #12 
           - Maybe we are working at cross purposes here  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 11:02 AM   #13 
           - This thread is about Chavez's integrity vs Carter's integrity  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:07 AM   #15 
              - interesting reading your responses to this  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 03:29 PM   #55 
              - Where's the light in your response?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:42 PM   #63 
                 - I don't dislike you  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 03:52 PM   #69 
                    - In that case you aren't stating your point very well. What is it?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:13 PM   #73 
                       - no, I'm not  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 06:25 PM   # 
              - you have a good point  Zuni   Jun-02-04 10:01 PM   #181 
           - Missing the point  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:24 PM   #52 
              - Yes you are missing the point.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:45 PM   #64 
                 - Huh?  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:59 PM   #71 
                    - You are pretending that only people who agree with your views are credible  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:13 PM   #72 
        - No politician is honest...  Darranar   Jun-02-04 04:44 PM   #83 
  - Carter never attempted a coup himself either  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 02:10 PM   #36 
     - No but certain founding fathers did  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 02:18 PM   #39 
     - Oh but when it happens to him he's practically infallable to people here  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 02:22 PM   #40 
        - Maybe that's because  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 02:23 PM   #41 
           - And some of us prefer, for example, counting votes.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 02:46 PM   #44 
           - Who said anything about counting votes?  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 02:50 PM   #45 
              - There is a referendum petition challenge going on in Venezuela now  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:02 PM   #46 
                 - And I was talking about coups  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:05 PM   #47 
                    - You made a vacuous comment about 'Who said anything about counting votes?'  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:12 PM   #48 
                       - Because you responded to  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:14 PM   #49 
                       - This is about counting votes.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:17 PM   #50 
                       - Signatures are not votes...  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:35 PM   #59 
                          - "Jimmy Carter is a trasparent shill" for American Republicans.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 03:40 PM   #61 
                             - "in this situation"  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:51 PM   #68 
                                - You are welcome to your opinion, even one that is so obviously wrong.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 04:17 PM   #76 
                                   - Duh  debsianben   Jun-02-04 04:39 PM   #80 
                                      - My view is that  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 05:13 PM   #86 
                                         - You really ought to work in PR  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:12 PM   #90 
                                            - Puerto Rico is too far of a commute nt  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:14 PM   #91 
                                               - Good! We don't want you here.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:18 PM   #92 
                                               - I've never understood why some folks on DU like to insult other DUers.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:24 PM   #94 
                                               - Me too  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:25 PM   #96 
                                               - Because they are evil commie/fascist tyrant loving bastards. Just a guess.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:27 PM   #98 
                                               - I'd re-think that career in comedy if I were you.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:31 PM   #101 
                                               - Was it as bad a your attempts at journalism?  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:34 PM   #103 
                                               - Still waiting for the joke.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:44 PM   #114 
                                               - I don't think anyone could wake you up if they tried.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:48 PM   #116 
                                               - Look we arlready know you want to insult me.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:20 PM   #146 
                                               - I know you are, but what am I?  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 08:28 PM   #149 
                                               - This post  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:41 PM   #152 
                                               - DAMN YOU! Can't...help ....self......must reply...............n/t  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 08:42 PM   #153 
                                               - Damn you both! I will have the last word here!!! n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 08:43 PM   #154 
                                               - This is a riot  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 08:44 PM   #155 
                                               - Noooooooo! Must.... have.... last... word.... !!! n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 08:46 PM   #156 
                                               - Kick  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:48 PM   #159 
                                               - Glad you are enjoying it.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:47 PM   #158 
                                               - Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies... n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 08:49 PM   #160 
                                               - nt  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:50 PM   #161 
                                               - Nice try Fean,but you really dont want to go there  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 08:50 PM   #162 
                                               - lol  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:54 PM   #164 
                                               - If you decide to break the rules that your decision  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 08:56 PM   #165 
                                               - I apologize for being immature enough to respond to your flamebait.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:00 PM   #167 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-02-04 09:02 PM   #168 
                                               - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-02-04 09:06 PM   #169 
                                               - Please  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:21 PM   #170 
                                               - It's simple  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:27 PM   #172 
                                               - Now I have two PM's from you  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:30 PM   #174 
                                               - So what?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:33 PM   #175 
                                               - Not harrasing PM's  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:39 PM   #176 
                                               - LOL if a PM is 'unasked for' it is harassment?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:43 PM   #177 
                                               - Yes,it is  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:45 PM   #178 
                                               - Also  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:49 PM   #179 
                                               - OK, now that I know you consider all PMs to be harassment  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:06 PM   #183 
                                               - My feelings are fine and unhurt  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:11 PM   #187 
                                               - Doesn't look like that from here.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:16 PM   #189 
                                               - That's ok  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:21 PM   #190 
                                               - Well, the reality is, you got upset because I sent you a PM  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:25 PM   #191 
                                               - I've never understood why some folks on DU like to insult other DUers.  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:32 PM   #194 
                                               - Sometimes it is just a defense mechanism.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:35 PM   #195 
                                               - Now you're getting it  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:46 PM   #198 
                                               - No, I got it months ago.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:50 PM   #201 
                                               - lol  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:04 PM   #182 
                                               - Yes,you're right  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:06 PM   #184 
                                               - How many times are you going to ask me?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:08 PM   #185 
                                               - How many times are you going to kick this thread?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-02-04 10:30 PM   #193 
                                               - Thanks for another opportunity  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:41 PM   #196 
                                               - You bet.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-02-04 10:44 PM   #197 
                                               - 200 posts!  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:47 PM   #199 
                                               - You say you are there for me  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:48 PM   #200 
                                               - kick  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:51 PM   #202 
                                               - kick  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:52 PM   #204 
                                               - I'll kick once more...  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-02-04 10:51 PM   #203 
                                               - I gotta wonder.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 10:53 PM   #206 
           - Actually I prefur non-authoritarian Third-Way which much of his opposition  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 03:24 PM   #53 
              - I would appreciate some links  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:32 PM   #57 
              - No it's his RECORD  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:22 PM   #93 
              - I don't see how the currency devaluating  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:24 PM   #95 
              - I've NEVER seen an article discussing this destruction of Vene.'s economy  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 05:22 AM   #211 
              - Is that why they disolved the supreme court, national assembly,  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 03:33 PM   #58 
              - Well it certainly doesn't come from the Chavista shill website that you  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:26 PM   #97 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-02-04 06:30 PM   #100 
                 - Can I be in your horde?  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:34 PM   #102 
                 - Sure. We'll rape their Corporatist Right wing villages and  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:36 PM   #105 
                    - And devaluate the currency by 80% every year n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:39 PM   #109 
                       - It's just crazy enough to work. BWAAAAAHAAHAAHAA N/T  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:42 PM   #111 
                 - How lame can a post get?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:40 PM   #110 
                 - Please tell us. How lame?  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:44 PM   #113 
                    - Your actions speak louder than my words ever could.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:47 PM   #115 
                       - Chilllll Winstooooon! n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:48 PM   #117 
                       - Does you post mean something? What? Who is Winstooooon?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:50 PM   #120 
                          - Just a thing we used to say in high school  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 06:51 PM   #122 
                             - Does it have a meaning or are you just babbling nonsense?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:18 PM   #144 
                                - It is both meaningless and infantile, just like me n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 08:19 PM   #145 
                       - That's nice of you. I guess I had you all wrong. Thanks. n/t  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:49 PM   #119 
                 - What is your point? The corporate media made up how much it's  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:52 PM   #123 
                    - No. I was referring to the conduct and comments by your beloved  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 06:55 PM   #124 
                    - I was RESPONDING to the only question you asked.  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 07:18 PM   #127 
                       - So you didn't read JudiLyn's  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 07:22 PM   #128 
                       - Oh Jeezus effing christ do you people ever adress the substance  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 07:27 PM   #129 
                          - Point is, the opposition is fighting dirty  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 07:31 PM   #131 
                          - No.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:27 PM   #148 
                       - It is as idiotic as the belief that everything a Chavez supporter  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 07:28 PM   #130 
                    - You've hit the target!  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 06:56 PM   #125 
                 - WHY?  debsianben   Jun-02-04 07:06 PM   #126 
              - There's a tape of a coup plotter recently saying he thinks that 10 yrs  AP   Jun-02-04 03:37 PM   #60 
              - "The wealthy" is an extremely misleading characterization for the  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:36 PM   #106 
                 - Just like the US: super-rich are pulling the strings. Some middle class  AP   Jun-02-04 07:33 PM   #132 
                 - And some of the working class  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 07:36 PM   #135 
                 - They're probabaly pissed that heads didn't roll after the coup.  AP   Jun-02-04 07:42 PM   #137 
                    - Well I would be too  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 07:44 PM   #138 
                       - If the fascists win it won't be because Chavez didn't execute a few of ...  AP   Jun-02-04 07:49 PM   #142 
                 - One thing a Venezuelan friend told me is that.  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 07:41 PM   #136 
                    - People always get pissed when you take away an entitlement. Chavez is...  AP   Jun-02-04 07:45 PM   #139 
                       - YOU MAKE ME SICK! Good day to you sir. n/t  SMIRKY_W_BINLADEN   Jun-02-04 07:47 PM   #140 
                          - LOL.  AP   Jun-02-04 07:50 PM   #143 
                 - It seems to me  Zuni   Jun-02-04 10:12 PM   #188 
              - thanks for making your side clear, Bombtrack  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 05:57 PM   #88 
                 - No I mean Venezuelan currency  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 06:27 PM   #99 
                    - how does Chavez have control over that?  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 08:21 PM   #147 
     - Maybe not...  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:27 PM   #54 
        - I wonder who is having the last laugh there... n/t  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:30 PM   #56 
  - Its a little insulting to me to have to choose - they both have integrity  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jun-02-04 11:02 AM   #14 
  - If they were to make contradictory statements, who would you believe?  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:08 AM   #16 
  - Listen - if you are trying to get people to make sweeping generalizations  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jun-02-04 11:15 AM   #18 
  - Well-said  Cursive_Knives512   Jun-02-04 11:18 AM   #19 
  - Except it ascribed motives to me that I don't have.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:25 AM   #23 
  - If you don't want to answer the poll question, don't.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:22 AM   #20 
     - I didn't answer the poll. It's my opinion that polls like these serve no  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jun-02-04 11:25 AM   #22 
        - Good for you, you have excercised your right to abstain.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:29 AM   #26 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-02-04 11:31 AM   #29 
              - I'm sorry that you choose to censor yourself and not speak your mind  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:34 AM   #30 
  - It depends on the statements  dsc   Jun-02-04 11:24 AM   #21 
     - Absolutely.  ChavezSpeakstheTruth   Jun-02-04 11:27 AM   #24 
     - Well let's say  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:31 AM   #27 
        - again it depends on why Chavez is saying  dsc   Jun-02-04 11:37 AM   #31 
        - I get it, you just don't want to answer.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:43 AM   #32 
           - one can be wrong without lying  dsc   Jun-02-04 12:01 PM   #33 
              - Yes, it is a hypothetical question  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 12:04 PM   #34 
        - Basis of comparison?  debsianben   Jun-02-04 03:48 PM   #65 
           - What, you are implying  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 03:51 PM   #66 
  - agreed. Carter is one of the best  Alerter_   Jun-02-04 08:29 PM   #150 
  - Uhhhh, Jimmy Carter  sgr2   Jun-02-04 11:27 AM   #25 
  - I respect Hugo Chavez as much as Jimmy Carter  0007   Jun-02-04 11:31 AM   #28 
  - Oh yeah, whoever "stands up" to the United States is a giant of a man  Bombtrack   Jun-02-04 02:14 PM   #37 
     - He respects the anti-neoliberals. So do I. You don't. Fine. Let it go.  AP   Jun-02-04 07:35 PM   #133 
        - The 'anti-neoliberals' -- what a totally meaningless phrase. nt  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:57 PM   #166 
           - You really have never heard the term "neoliberal" before?  AP   Jun-03-04 12:29 AM   #208 
  - Boo!  RUMMYisFROSTED   Jun-02-04 02:15 PM   #38 
  - Boo  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 02:41 PM   #42 
  - Carter deserved his Peace Prize for work he did AFTER his presidency  eridani   Jun-02-04 05:54 PM   #87 
  - Carter had worldwide concerns  Zuni   Jun-02-04 10:09 PM   #186 
  - Actually in Afganistan  Vladimir   Jun-02-04 10:27 PM   #192 
  - Thanks for the push I needed to get off my duff and take a quick trip  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 05:44 AM   #212 
     - Ah yes, Pol Pot  Vladimir   Jun-03-04 05:48 AM   #213 
        - That would make a sensible person wonder, wouldn't it? n/t  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 06:17 AM   #215 
  - What's the context?  ibegurpard   Jun-02-04 07:36 PM   #134 
  - The context is Venezeula's recall referendum and Carter's participation  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:38 PM   #151 
  - This antiwar.com article  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 11:05 PM   #207 
     - Your article has two areas which are interesting.  JudiLyn   Jun-03-04 06:11 AM   #214 
  - I'm ABC -  ContinentalOp   Jun-02-04 07:47 PM   #141 
  - People people people  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 08:46 PM   #157 
  - Thanks for the kick  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 08:52 PM   #163 
     - Very glad to help  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 09:22 PM   #171 
        - Cool.  Feanorcurufinwe   Jun-02-04 09:29 PM   #173 
  - Kick  Forkboy   Jun-02-04 10:52 PM   #205 
  - Locking.......  Moderator   Jun-03-04 06:47 AM   #216 
 

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