Reply #37: Somebody here posted the hope that the enemy would "get the snot beaten

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out of them in November." And they'd be correct. I think that's what "major electoral failure" is about.

The BEST way to yank back our country, and return it more to the correct track again, is to work our hardest to make sure that the neocons and the fundies and the radical right - all of whom have hijacked the republican party do, indeed, get the snot beaten out of them in November.

They really can't go down to just any old defeat.

First, they MUST be beaten so decisively in the presidential race that there's no way they can steal it. We must have MANY eyes watching and openly on the alert in states like Florida (the scene of the crime, and remember what criminals tend to do...) and Ohio (where the Diebold guy stated in public that he was going to do everything he could to make sure the state of Ohio was delivered to bush). We must have the BBV issue so loud and out in the forefront that everybody's either talking about it or has heard of it, so it's in EVERYBODY's awareness. SHINE A LIGHT ON THE COCKROACHES IF YOU WANNA MAKE 'EM SCATTER.

Second, they MUST be beaten so decisively that Kerry has bigtime coattails. Doesn't much matter how he gets 'em, whether it's active (he's just won a lot of people over) or passive (those who can't stomach voting for him instead of their beloved bush - by whom they now feel betrayed - just give into their discouragement and stay home on election day). That, then, will give us the House and maybe also the Senate. With Democratic majorities, we will actually have the strength in numbers to do some long-overdue repair jobs, and justice quests - because we will have the numbers to go after these crooks and indict a few dozen of them. We will be able to launch congressional hearings that REALLY mean something and will REALLY get some serious business done, rather than just putting on a nice show and then whitewashing everything.

This, in turn, will result in the stench of "LOSER" settling onto the surface of their skin and seeping into their pores. Consider what a pariah bush-the-first became, after Clinton beat him in 1992. All of a sudden, he had the stench of LOSER all over him. Nobody wanted to be seen with him. He became the very embodiment of defeat, an entitlement (to the White House and to power) denied, he became almost like an old eunuch. Because when you lose, you can't swagger around with any arrogance anymore - since you have nothing to be arrogant about. And you remind everyone else what all they lost by going along with you and being on your team. You devalue everyone around you, and therefore nobody wants to be associated with you. It's the ultimate demoralizer. How many people didn't take his calls anymore? How many people looked to steer in a different direction from the way he went, so as not to make his mistake again? Did anybody see him making all the rounds of the talk shows and the lecture circuit and keeping a high profile to try and rehabilitate himself and attempt to stay in the game and convince people he was still a player? No. Nobody wanted any part of him. By the time Bob Dole came along four years later, nobody knew nothin' 'bout any george bush. Nobody wanted to. He got sent to the cornfield because none of them wanted to be associated with a LOSER. It makes them feel like one, too.

Remember, too, that Clinton won that time, but not decisively enough to leave his enemies licking any serious wounds for any length of time. Their wounds just weren't that deep. They remained within striking distance of getting revenge two years later, which - with the rise and increasing loudness and obnoxiousness and sheer nerve of newt gingrich - is exactly what they did. THAT'S why we have to do everything we can to make sure they get the snot beaten out of them. We have to leave them as deeply and devastatingly demoralized as possible, because we want to force more than a few of them to have to rethink the way they've been doing business. As BIG A REPUDIATION AS POSSIBLE IS WHAT'S URGENTLY NEEDED. If they get the snot beaten out of them (I'm REALLY growing to love that phrase!), some of them may feel like they need to face some serious self-reexamination to determine what went wrong. It's more likely that some of them will hear the complaints from those who say the knuckledraggers and other extremists have pulled them too far to the right and thereby cost them the election. We can assist this by pointing it out, repeatedly and relentlessly ourselves, by the way.

But ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SOUNDLY AND DECISIVELY REPUDIATED. There needs to be such a bad taste left in the mouth toward anybody who harangues about the wonderful neocon philosophy of latter-day crusading and endless war and remaking the Middle East in our own image and likeness. These people, and their reprehensible world view, HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTELY, DECISIVELY, IRREFUTABLY REPUDIATED AND DISCREDITED. This will happen if they lose BIG. If they lose the House and/or Senate, along with the White House - they'll have had the whole ballgame and blown it, and everyone will know it. Plus, we will repeat THAT relentlessly, too, to further hammer it home.

The best way to save our country, long-term, is to make sure these people get the snot beaten out of them. Call it the stake-through-the-heart. Salting their fields so nothing will grow. Give 'em the same kind of treatment that the Romans gave Carthage. The bigger a defeat, and a repudiation there is, the better. The bigger and stronger and heavier stench of LOSER that sticks to them, the better.

These people need to be set back by at least a generation if our country is to recover to any credible or workable degree.

So, guys, now is NOT the time to become complacent. We have the nail positioned just where it needs to be. Now, we need to get the biggest big-ass hammer we can find and smack it home!