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| 71. I'm not sure. Who gave Chalabi highly valuable information and why? |
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Seems weird for a foreign national, and convicted felon to have access to highly sensitive, classified, information. If he did, why? What would be the point of giving it to him? I don't get it. The whole thing is too far out there to be believable. I think somebody's got to take the fall for the lack of WMDs and he's the one who sold the Neocons on their existence. They're just trying to wash the blood from their hands, now and maybe, pick a fight with Iran at the same time. I don't know.
Oh, what a tangled web they've woven...
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| -OK, weird...I'm getting clobbered by my readers, so take this poll. |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 10:13 PM |
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Gullible Neo-Cons? |
trumad |
May-25-04 10:16 PM |
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The neocons' relationship with Chalabi DATES from that period |
DrBB |
May-25-04 10:44 PM |
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The Neo-Con Godfather, Leo Strauss |
trumad |
May-25-04 10:54 PM |
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Also See This Month's Harper's |
REP |
May-25-04 11:58 PM |
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Well Said, Doctor |
The Magistrate |
May-25-04 11:08 PM |
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And also you, Mr. M |
psychopomp |
May-26-04 04:24 AM |
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My View Matches That of DrBB and The Magistrate, Will |
DoveTurnedHawk |
May-26-04 09:20 AM |
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I'm not sure |
displacedvermoter |
May-25-04 10:17 PM |
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You left out "both" |
Finnfan |
May-25-04 10:17 PM |
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I agree, it's both. They got suckered. It'll be recast as an opportunity. |
Eye and Monkey |
May-25-04 10:26 PM |
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I think it's real, and I don't see how it leads to an invasion |
BurtWorm |
May-25-04 10:17 PM |
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I agree |
Dookus |
May-25-04 10:19 PM |
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It's Real |
RobinA |
May-26-04 09:11 AM |
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Too many moving parts |
ewagner |
May-25-04 10:18 PM |
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Yep |
NV Whino |
May-25-04 10:18 PM |
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I really hadn't considered the Iranian invasion angle before.... |
AntiCoup2k |
May-25-04 10:18 PM |
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Neither. |
Merlin |
May-25-04 10:21 PM |
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Pure set up |
mmm |
May-25-04 10:22 PM |
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Did you read Borger's article at the Guardian? |
BurtWorm |
May-25-04 10:24 PM |
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I don't buy it |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 10:27 PM |
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Have you read Parry and Andrew Cockburn yet? |
BurtWorm |
May-25-04 10:29 PM |
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Borger, Hersh and Pincus are all mouthpieces for Intelligence insiders. |
Merlin |
May-25-04 10:43 PM |
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We seem to be witnessing a long-brooding civil war erupting |
BurtWorm |
May-25-04 10:49 PM |
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easy answer to your last question |
salin |
May-26-04 12:47 AM |
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It's a truly wonderful thought! |
Merlin |
May-26-04 12:52 AM |
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They Wouldn't |
RobinA |
May-26-04 09:17 AM |
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I'm not sure |
Momof1 |
May-25-04 10:23 PM |
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Not sure |
mmonk |
May-25-04 10:23 PM |
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will, don't worry, this story is gonna grow legs |
AZDemDist6 |
May-25-04 10:27 PM |
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Or....some of them believed him. For real. |
aquart |
May-25-04 10:28 PM |
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Is this Jeopardy? |
NewYorkerfromMass |
May-25-04 10:29 PM |
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Good point |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 10:30 PM |
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Too many angles with the Chalabi situation |
Chicken George |
May-25-04 10:30 PM |
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Why is he not in jail instead of talk show hopping? |
vetwife |
May-25-04 10:32 PM |
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Exactly... |
Chicken George |
May-25-04 10:45 PM |
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Will, read back up on the PNAC'ers, this is all going according to plan. |
anarchy1999 |
May-25-04 10:31 PM |
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See post 15 |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 10:31 PM |
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Sorry, you are on it. Should have known. Sorry again. |
anarchy1999 |
May-25-04 10:35 PM |
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One might wonder why Chalabi would be a free man. |
spanone |
May-25-04 10:39 PM |
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You've got to read Robert Parry's article. |
BurtWorm |
May-25-04 10:34 PM |
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One thing's for sure... |
punpirate |
May-25-04 10:33 PM |
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A brilliant post I saved from Clark's blog on this: |
robbedvoter |
May-25-04 10:33 PM |
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Yep. Iran played * like a fiddle. We've been had. |
BeFree |
May-25-04 10:53 PM |
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Well, here's a question: |
slavkomae |
May-25-04 10:36 PM |
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Because the CIA hasn't given its proof to the Justice Dept.? |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 10:37 PM |
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Come on, Will...the CIA wasn't involved in this one...it was the DIA,.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-25-04 10:40 PM |
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Um... |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 10:47 PM |
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It's true that the CIA had it's own horse in the race |
starroute |
May-26-04 01:16 AM |
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If This Was Well Planned |
RobinA |
May-26-04 09:27 AM |
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But then... |
slavkomae |
May-25-04 10:44 PM |
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There is no doubt the CIA is gaming here |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 10:53 PM |
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"I don't think the Bushies would allow this much egg on their faces... |
slavkomae |
May-25-04 11:16 PM |
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Who has the authority to arrest him? |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 11:27 PM |
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Why even bother arresting him - just leave him hanging in Iraq |
gbwarming |
May-25-04 11:36 PM |
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Wouldn't they want to know what he knows, and wouldn't they... |
slavkomae |
May-25-04 11:42 PM |
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They know what he knows. |
BurtWorm |
May-25-04 11:48 PM |
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Isn't he in Iraq? |
slavkomae |
May-25-04 11:41 PM |
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or Chalabi is just as much a dupe as Bush. eom |
NewYorkerfromMass |
May-25-04 10:45 PM |
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Humor me |
billybob537 |
May-25-04 11:02 PM |
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"If you believe that BS you should be the first one sent in." |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 11:15 PM |
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Who has the authority to arrest him? |
BurtWorm |
May-25-04 10:48 PM |
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i agree with you will |
rchsod |
May-25-04 10:39 PM |
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hope vs. fear |
VelmaD |
May-25-04 10:41 PM |
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One thing's for sure.... |
Steven_S |
May-25-04 10:42 PM |
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Could someone please help me with this? |
zydeco |
May-25-04 10:48 PM |
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*cough*Wolfowitz*coughcough*Perle*cough* |
BurtWorm |
May-25-04 10:51 PM |
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through the looking glass |
bpilgrim |
May-25-04 10:49 PM |
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This Administration is constantly trying to convince us that they |
Sperk |
May-25-04 10:49 PM |
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I admit, I was wondering if you had started shilling for the neo-cons |
Generic Other |
May-25-04 10:50 PM |
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With whose army will they wage this Iran war? |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 10:55 PM |
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good point... |
bpilgrim |
May-25-04 10:59 PM |
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The army they intend to conscript and build . . . |
beam_me_up |
May-25-04 11:20 PM |
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we're not going anywhere near Iran, we don't have the resources... |
jdolsen |
May-26-04 12:51 AM |
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doubt it |
bpilgrim |
May-26-04 01:08 AM |
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Neither. Its to give the Bush* admin cover |
Betty The Younger |
May-25-04 10:55 PM |
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welcome to DU Betty |
dudeness |
May-25-04 10:58 PM |
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Thank you Dudeness! |
Betty The Younger |
May-25-04 11:09 PM |
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welcome to DU |
bpilgrim |
May-25-04 11:01 PM |
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Thank you Bpilgrim! |
Betty The Younger |
May-25-04 11:14 PM |
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I agree with borg.. |
dudeness |
May-25-04 10:56 PM |
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At First I Suspected a Neocon Ploy |
Labor_Ready |
May-25-04 10:58 PM |
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Could another "terrorist attack" provide the "better pretense"? n/t |
beam_me_up |
May-25-04 11:08 PM |
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That's a 'Better Pretense,' Yes |
Labor_Ready |
May-25-04 11:17 PM |
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All going along to PNAC, the DLC's & the PPI's plan... |
Tinoire |
May-25-04 11:00 PM |
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Things are changing too fast to keep up. |
SnohoDem |
May-25-04 11:03 PM |
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Real deal. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
May-25-04 11:15 PM |
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I'm not sure. Who gave Chalabi highly valuable information and why? |
Kimber Scott |
May-25-04 11:20 PM |
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The neocons seem to be still behind him. |
BurtWorm |
May-25-04 11:25 PM |
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Yes, I know some of them are still backing him. |
Kimber Scott |
May-25-04 11:42 PM |
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William Luti and Douglas Feith |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 11:28 PM |
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and so i wonder what they gave him |
bpilgrim |
May-25-04 11:33 PM |
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The OSP operated out of the DoD branch that handled all the Mideast |
WilliamPitt |
May-25-04 11:40 PM |
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I can't imagine highly sensitive information would be lying around. |
Kimber Scott |
May-26-04 12:16 AM |
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how often did he visit? |
bpilgrim |
May-26-04 12:33 AM |
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Dig it |
WilliamPitt |
May-26-04 12:35 AM |
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why would the neoCONs pick him knowing his ties? |
bpilgrim |
May-26-04 01:01 AM |
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Chalabi said on TV the other day he's had an ongoing relationship |
Kimber Scott |
May-25-04 11:45 PM |
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The person he met with recently - reportedly the head of Iranian Intel |
salin |
May-26-04 12:01 AM |
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Since they shared an office, is this how he got the US information? |
Kimber Scott |
May-26-04 12:11 AM |
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It isn't clear to me - that is one bit of speculatin (via |
salin |
May-26-04 12:15 AM |
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I told my husband last year, "Wait. They're going to figure out this |
Kimber Scott |
May-26-04 12:28 AM |
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I think the lack of arrests (and the siezure of documents and computers) |
salin |
May-26-04 12:49 AM |
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Someone thought Chalabi was pal enough to be privvy to secrets. |
BurtWorm |
May-26-04 12:18 AM |
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I missed one of those... |
salin |
May-26-04 12:51 AM |
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Check out Cockburn at the Guardian tomorrow, too. |
BurtWorm |
May-26-04 12:52 AM |
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Not sure, but look at the cast of characters and their options |
bumbler |
May-25-04 11:43 PM |
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A lot of it smells very fishy |
wtmusic |
May-25-04 11:43 PM |
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Real - and very convoluted - take a read at Laura Rozen's |
salin |
May-25-04 11:50 PM |
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It's Brier Rabbit. |
kaitykaity |
May-25-04 11:55 PM |
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One major question is how Israel fits into the Chalabi saga |
starroute |
May-26-04 12:02 AM |
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Robert Parry at consortiumnews.com connects some of those dots. |
BurtWorm |
May-26-04 12:06 AM |
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I've been wondering about that |
starroute |
May-26-04 12:12 AM |
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Iran is becoming more nationalistic and less Islam-minded |
starroute |
May-26-04 12:55 AM |
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This story is the CIA and State taking down the neo-cons, and it is true |
Stephanie |
May-26-04 12:31 AM |
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Yep, the Neocons may be crafty, but someone played them back... |
Pachamama |
May-26-04 03:24 AM |
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I believe it to be just another smokescreen for Prezdint Monkeynuts. |
MUAD_DIB |
May-26-04 01:02 AM |
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Sensitive Information |
CHIMO |
May-26-04 02:02 AM |
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The weird have turned pro. And suicidal. |
BareKnuckledLiberal |
May-26-04 02:11 AM |
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pitt taken in by... |
JSJ |
May-26-04 03:16 AM |
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don't know who/what to believe |
radfringe |
May-26-04 03:56 AM |
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why a poll? |
Fear |
May-26-04 03:58 AM |
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I'm positive that it is NOT to distance Chalabi from Bush |
OKNancy |
May-26-04 04:48 AM |
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Don't know |
ibegurpard |
May-26-04 04:57 AM |
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I think it is more about rewriting history and distancing the WH from Iran |
althecat |
May-26-04 04:57 AM |
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I think it is more about rewriting history and distancing the WH from Iran |
althecat |
May-26-04 04:57 AM |
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It's about Bush administration infighting |
eridani |
May-26-04 05:18 AM |
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CIA |
Disturbed |
May-26-04 05:33 AM |
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Slings and Arrows |
Jacobin |
May-26-04 06:40 AM |
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Chill, Will. Think Earthquakes. |
TomNickell |
May-26-04 07:25 AM |
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Scott Ritter on Chalabi |
cal04 |
May-26-04 07:27 AM |
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When I heard about the leak of info to Iran, |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-26-04 07:32 AM |
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I think it's just another in a long line of "blame him, not us" |
leesa |
May-26-04 08:00 AM |
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"CIA Has Rock Solid Evidence" |
grl2watch |
May-26-04 08:21 AM |
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Invading Iran would be practically and politically insane... |
skryabushka |
May-26-04 08:49 AM |
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Don't falter Pitt. You are right. They are wrong. |
troublemaker |
May-26-04 09:33 AM |
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Not Sure BUT |
Beetwasher |
May-26-04 09:34 AM |
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Neither. It's to shift blame for the WMD problem "He Tricked Us" |
Delano |
May-26-04 09:38 AM |
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I think that if it were an invade-Iran ploy... |
JHB |
May-26-04 09:40 AM |
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Irony? |
dutchdemocrat |
May-26-04 09:44 AM |
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I think that when the truth is known (whenever that may be) |
rustydog |
May-26-04 09:45 AM |
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Cite "Against all Enemies" the almost war with IRAN |
gasperc |
May-26-04 09:49 AM |
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