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Response to Reply #143
159. this goes along with the "DaVinci Code" theories
Edited on Mon May-24-04 04:47 PM by Alerter_
and older theories from "Holy Blood, Holy Grail". I think it's pure speculation - I do not subscribe to any of these theories - but a lot of it involves a crusade to return the King of Jerusalem to his throne and a rebuilding of the Jewish Temple. It's a very interesting mix of non-orthodox Judaism and non-Catholic Christianity. The historical existence of these theories are not in doubt, we have plenty of historical record.

Again, I don't believe it, but with the obvious religious angles to the current wars, both in Iraq and Israel/Palenstine, I wouldn't be surprised if there are groups taking this stuff seriously.

But again - I think this tatoo is just a run-of-the-mill gangsta tatoo from an Israeli or Israeli-identified person.

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  - possible reference  Must_B_Free   May-24-04 01:09 PM   #56 
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     - Nah I have seen American soldiers with foreign flaggs on  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:18 PM   #11 
  - Interesting. Is that a known insignia?  DrBB   May-24-04 12:13 PM   #4 
  - I hope someone can decode this  grasswire   May-24-04 12:15 PM   #7 
  - Really? Why?  aquart   May-24-04 12:17 PM   #10 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-24-04 01:45 PM   #82 
     - Why, obviously grasswire is anti-Semitic!  Zhade   May-24-04 09:52 PM   #171 
  - I'm not sure  plurality   May-24-04 12:21 PM   #15 
  - Jewish suicide squad.  ArkDem   May-24-04 01:13 PM   #62 
  - Here it is  drdarwin   May-24-04 12:14 PM   #5 
  - what does the red text mean?  arcane1   May-24-04 12:19 PM   #12 
     - Wolf's in Spanish  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:21 PM   #16 
        - I'm not really making anything out of it..  arcane1   May-24-04 12:26 PM   #18 
        - You are dealing with a home boy  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:29 PM   #21 
           - b and v have an almost identical pronunciation in Spanish, and  Lisa0825   May-24-04 02:17 PM   #112 
              - Yep thanks  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 03:05 PM   #149 
        - the last letter isn't an s  plurality   May-24-04 12:28 PM   #20 
        - It is not hebrew  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:31 PM   #23 
        - I don't want it to be anything  plurality   May-24-04 12:34 PM   #25 
           - Look at the blow up  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:42 PM   #31 
              - it could be a z, still doubt s  plurality   May-24-04 12:50 PM   #36 
                 - Look at some wonderful  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:53 PM   #40 
        - Here's a blow up of the tatto  hexola   May-24-04 12:34 PM   # 
           - Thanks LOVOS  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:37 PM   #29 
           - Does that look photoshopped or what?  graham67   May-24-04 12:45 PM   #34 
           - Not likely photoshopped...  hexola   May-24-04 12:50 PM   #35 
           - if you didn't say it then you don't sound silly  Cheswick   May-24-04 01:09 PM   #55 
           - yeah that's a good one.  plurality   May-24-04 12:52 PM   #39 
              - That's the worst photoshopping I've seen in a while.  John_H   May-24-04 01:40 PM   #75 
           - Looks like a skull with the legs forming the teeth.  alfredo   May-24-04 04:27 PM   #163 
        - I have to go along with LOVOS ...  hexola   May-24-04 12:31 PM   #22 
           - look like "LOVOL" (with the last "L" a mirror image)  Alerter_   May-24-04 04:10 PM   #161 
              - Examine the enlargement  hexola   May-24-04 09:57 PM   #172 
  - hey folks  StaggerLee   May-24-04 12:15 PM   #6 
  - AP source info  JetJaguar   May-24-04 11:37 PM   #177 
  - hmmm...star of david...scorpion...  ret5hd   May-24-04 12:17 PM   #9 
  - I enlarged it a bit and thought it perhaps said <OVO>  hexola   May-24-04 12:19 PM   #13 
  - Sorry that ain't Hebrew  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:19 PM   #14 
  - but why would gangs incorporate the Israeli flag in their insignia?  plurality   May-24-04 12:23 PM   #17 
     - For the same reason they have incorporated  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:27 PM   #19 
        - Yep...  graham67   May-24-04 12:34 PM   #26 
        - That I believe - but this is the entire flag...  hexola   May-24-04 01:16 PM   #64 
        - so I do a search on Lovos, Lovos Gang, Ovos, and Ovos Gang  salin   May-24-04 12:35 PM   #27 
        - wrong search parameters  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:51 PM   #37 
           - thanks, I'd be interested in reading more about the Lovos gang  arcane1   May-24-04 12:54 PM   #41 
           - Try Lobos, or los lobos  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:56 PM   #42 
              - you don't have any info on them?  arcane1   May-24-04 12:58 PM   #44 
              - From years in EMS yes they are the same gang  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:02 PM   #47 
                 - any links?  arcane1   May-24-04 01:05 PM   #49 
                    - Here is one  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:06 PM   #51 
                       - Nice, any references to "Lovos" (nt)  hexola   May-24-04 01:09 PM   #54 
                       - Only if you go into Police Intelligence  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:13 PM   #61 
                       - why is this a jewell?  arcane1   May-24-04 01:12 PM   #59 
                       - I guess I can't help there  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:16 PM   #63 
                          - the "lobos" in that article was unrelated to gang names  arcane1   May-24-04 01:22 PM   #66 
                             - Consult the cops  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:25 PM   #68 
                                - you made the claim  arcane1   May-24-04 01:26 PM   #70 
                                   - Here you go  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:35 PM   #72 
                                      - Can you direct us to a link about LOVOS?  hexola   May-24-04 01:41 PM   #76 
                                      - I gave you the links I could find,  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:44 PM   #81 
                                      - with no references to LOVOS...you have nothing...(nt)  hexola   May-24-04 01:49 PM   #86 
                                      - And you will not do the basic research,  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:51 PM   #88 
                                      - your links seem bogus and have nothing to do with the subject at hand  bhunt70   May-24-04 02:06 PM   #104 
                                      - Unfortunately I am not  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 03:23 PM   #153 
                                      - please show me where I said I want to believe it's Mossad  arcane1   May-24-04 01:47 PM   # 
                                      - Well sorry, I gave yuou links to gang  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:53 PM   #91 
                                      - you provided links with no relevant information whatsoever  arcane1   May-24-04 02:03 PM   #101 
                                      - Here is one  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:12 PM   #108 
                                      - And still not a single reference to LOVOS!!!  hexola   May-24-04 02:18 PM   #113 
                                      - don't you get it? Supporting this user's claims is OUR job  arcane1   May-24-04 02:20 PM   #117 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   May-24-04 02:23 PM   #119 
                                      - yes, I said all of that, yeah right  arcane1   May-24-04 02:28 PM   #125 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   May-24-04 02:38 PM   #132 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   May-24-04 02:41 PM   #136 
                                      - No, I beleive that those who were in charge ordered  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:58 PM   #146 
                                      - Try LOMOS  Virginian   May-24-04 10:39 PM   #174 
                                      - Whoa...nice take...LOMOS...  hexola   May-24-04 10:45 PM   #175 
                                      - irrelevant, no reference to lobos or lovos in this link either  arcane1   May-24-04 02:19 PM   #116 
                       - the only reference to lobos here was Los Lobos  Cheswick   May-24-04 01:16 PM   #65 
                          - SPANISH TRASLATION : "LOVOS"  hexola   May-24-04 02:08 PM   #105 
                             - IT IS MISPELLED ON PURPOSE  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:14 PM   #109 
                                - LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (nt)  hexola   May-24-04 02:18 PM   #115 
                                - GO AKS YOUR LOCAL POLICE INTELLIGENCE UNIT  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:24 PM   #120 
                                - GO AKS YOUR LOCAL POLICE INTELLIGENCE UNIT  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:24 PM   #121 
                                - repost from above: ba nd v sound almost identical in Spanish  Lisa0825   May-24-04 02:28 PM   #126 
                                   - I agree and suspect that same thing...but  hexola   May-24-04 02:33 PM   #129 
                                      - Don't ask me since you don't beleive me  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:45 PM   #137 
              - Oh here is a jewel  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:58 PM   #45 
           - *wink*  salin   May-24-04 12:57 PM   #43 
              - Oh agree with you  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:01 PM   #46 
                 - have to agree  salin   May-24-04 01:05 PM   #50 
                 - Yep  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:11 PM   #57 
                    - bullshit claim  bhunt70   May-24-04 02:09 PM   #106 
                       - Not according to the COB and others on board that  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:25 PM   #124 
                 - I think you're the one who's strechting here  plurality   May-24-04 01:08 PM   #53 
                    - And I think you still want this to be Mossad  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:22 PM   #67 
                       - I don't need it be a goddamned thing, I think you need it to be a gang  plurality   May-24-04 01:28 PM   #71 
                       - THis particular marking is a gang marking  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:42 PM   #77 
                          - You havent presented a shred of evidence to support that idea!  hexola   May-24-04 01:43 PM   #80 
                          - Whatever  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:47 PM   #83 
                          - the PUBLIC SO Cal Database  arcane1   May-24-04 01:53 PM   #92 
                             - Go ask your local poilice unit  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:20 PM   #118 
                                - NOBODY would be THAT STUPID to put a tattoo...  arcane1   May-24-04 02:31 PM   #127 
                                   - The isreali would nkow the back yard  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:47 PM   #141 
                                      - I have made no such assumption, they came from your posts  arcane1   May-24-04 03:21 PM   #152 
                                      - And I have not seen that list in years  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 03:27 PM   #154 
                                      - please show me where I gave any opinion on who this is  arcane1   May-24-04 03:39 PM   #156 
                          - don't you know, we're supposed to believe he's the gang expert  plurality   May-24-04 01:53 PM   #90 
                             - And I'm perfectly willing to believe it...just provide a shred of proof...  hexola   May-24-04 01:56 PM   #96 
                                - Ok silly me  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:15 PM   #111 
                                   - a marking that means instant death???  arcane1   May-24-04 02:25 PM   #123 
                                      - Free clue  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:33 PM   #130 
                                         - did I blame the Jews? Please paste the text for me  arcane1   May-24-04 02:35 PM   #131 
                                         - You are in less than overt ways  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:40 PM   #134 
                                         - calling me an anti-semite, you're getting desperate  arcane1   May-24-04 02:45 PM   #138 
                                         - Nope I am aware of what the Israelis are capable of doingq  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:50 PM   #142 
                                         - You're the one making that argument...it might be an anti-semetic tattoo  hexola   May-24-04 02:39 PM   #133 
                                         - well, its unjewish to get a tattoo in the first place.  Must_B_Free   May-24-04 02:41 PM   #135 
                                         - Un-Christian too isn't it  hexola   May-24-04 02:46 PM   #140 
                                         - Leviticus is the OLD Testtament  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:55 PM   #145 
                                         - You read what you chose to read  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 02:52 PM   #144 
                          - I'm done, you have proved NOTHING  plurality   May-24-04 01:51 PM   #89 
                             - Go to your local police unit  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 01:54 PM   #95 
                       - "...I do understand why the Iraqis NEED to believe..."  Zhade   May-24-04 10:12 PM   #173 
        - I dont see how you can be so sure.  bhunt70   May-24-04 01:54 PM   #93 
  - Lovoj means "Lovable" in Lithuanian....  Junkdrawer   May-24-04 12:32 PM   #24 
     - "Lovos" seems to be a conjugation of "love"  Alerter_   May-24-04 02:24 PM   #122 
     - Now THAT makes sense  HFishbine   May-24-04 04:41 PM   #164 
  - ENLARGEMENT HERE  hexola   May-24-04 12:35 PM   #28 
  - So how do we know that is authentic? - eom  patrice   May-24-04 12:40 PM   #30 
  - Authentic - in what way?  hexola   May-24-04 12:52 PM   #38 
  - Does this give some cred to the theory that Mossad  patrice   May-24-04 12:43 PM   #32 
  - No Mossad woudl not make a beginers mistake  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 12:44 PM   #33 
  - "Scorpion" Bible refereces/Star Chart  hexola   May-24-04 01:07 PM   #52 
  - Scorpion Pass (bible)  hexola   May-24-04 01:26 PM   #69 
  - heres some refs  Must_B_Free   May-24-04 01:35 PM   #73 
     - Another clue  Must_B_Free   May-24-04 01:43 PM   #79 
        - no, if you had clicked on "answers here"  ret5hd   May-24-04 01:48 PM   #85 
        - cool!  Must_B_Free   May-24-04 02:14 PM   #110 
        - I think in Hebrew it is 'akrav'--based on the 105th's Hebrew name (nt)  jpgray   May-24-04 02:04 PM   #102 
  - The torturers were fascinated with scorpions, according to their victims  meluseth   May-24-04 03:16 PM   #151 
     - Well that is an old technique used in the middle east  nadinbrzezinski   May-24-04 03:30 PM   #155 
  - Israeli Agents Believed Involved in Abu Ghraib  plurality   May-24-04 01:11 PM   #58 
  - ah yes, more of those lovely "civilian contractors"  maggrwaggr   May-24-04 01:57 PM   #97 
  - Tattoo owners: How old do you think that tattoo is...?  hexola   May-24-04 01:12 PM   #60 
  - The only 'scorpion' related Israeli unit, I think, is in the IAF  jpgray   May-24-04 01:42 PM   #78 
  - Oh that's just a coincidence! (nt)  hexola   May-24-04 01:47 PM   #84 
     - As I said, pretty tenuous (nt)  jpgray   May-24-04 01:58 PM   #98 
  - Here we go!  Must_B_Free   May-24-04 01:54 PM   #94 
  - Not a gang symbol--it's some rapture crap  Snazzy   May-24-04 01:58 PM   #99 
  - Lovos -- latin spelling of spanish word wolf and link to St. James  Snazzy   May-24-04 02:52 PM   #143 
     - this goes along with the "DaVinci Code" theories  Alerter_   May-24-04 04:07 PM   #159 
  - Has any suggested it may be the result of doodling in an Eng Lit or  higher class   May-24-04 02:01 PM   #100 
  - isnt anywhere close to an S so why is everyone saying lovos  seabeyond   May-24-04 02:05 PM   #103 
  - You looked at the enlargement? (nt)  hexola   May-24-04 02:09 PM   #107 
     - my bad  seabeyond   May-24-04 02:18 PM   #114 
  - Israel's fingerprints are all over US Iraq operations  Must_B_Free   May-24-04 02:33 PM   #128 
  - another meaning of scorpion which fits a prison  GreatCaesarsGhost   May-24-04 02:46 PM   #139 
  - We know why Counterpunch is running it.  geek tragedy   May-24-04 03:00 PM   #147 
  - really, where's that article, I'd like to see it.  plurality   May-24-04 03:05 PM   #148 
  - Here you go:  geek tragedy   May-24-04 03:15 PM   #150 
     - let me see  plurality   May-24-04 03:41 PM   #157 
        - He said that  geek tragedy   May-24-04 03:56 PM   #158 
           - several things  plurality   May-24-04 04:09 PM   #160 
              - Cockburn writes extensively  geek tragedy   May-24-04 04:41 PM   #165 
  - oh give it a rest  Alerter_   May-24-04 04:15 PM   #162 
     - Oh please.  geek tragedy   May-24-04 04:46 PM   #167 
  - Omigod, a star of David! Head for the hills, the Joooooos are coming!!!!  Jim Sagle   May-24-04 04:59 PM   #168 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-24-04 11:16 PM   #176 
     - Another reason it might not be in the papers is that nobody gives a fuck.  Jim Sagle   May-24-04 11:57 PM   #180 
  - What the hell does Lovol/Lovos mean?  FDRrocks   May-24-04 11:40 PM   #178 
  - see mid page  JetJaguar   May-24-04 11:47 PM   #179 
  - Locking.  Moderator   May-25-04 12:22 AM   #181 
 

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