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Tue May-25-04 08:47 AM
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| 7. FDR felt that you made democracy strong by creating a wealthy middle class |
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so his message was, "you keep working (because that's how you create wealth) and I'll keep doing things to help you keep the wealth you create." This was even more of an imperative during war time as peace time, if you're going to hold back the fascists.
Bush feels that the job of the middle class is to go into debt and keep shifting wealth up the ladder. So his message isn't "work, get educated, do better while I look after your interests." His message is just, "keep spending, don't save, don't pay dow too much principle, take on credit card debt, and get a nothing-down ARM mortgage."
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| -Isn't it kinda late for "Fireside Chats"? |
trof |
May-24-04 11:24 AM |
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What Bush does is the OPPOSITE of fireside chats. |
AP |
May-24-04 11:34 AM |
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Good point AP. |
truthbetold |
May-24-04 11:50 AM |
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was I right or wrong? |
AP |
May-25-04 08:35 AM |
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Of course the other big difference |
bryant69 |
May-25-04 08:40 AM |
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FDR felt that you made democracy strong by creating a wealthy middle class |
AP |
May-25-04 08:47 AM |
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Republicans freaked people out over Hitler? |
JHB |
May-25-04 08:46 AM |
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Newsreals. Radio. Corporate media LOVED Hitler. He gave those crazy |
AP |
May-25-04 08:50 AM |
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Again, any SOURCES? |
JHB |
May-25-04 09:23 AM |
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Yeah. A media studies professor I heard talk about this about a year and |
AP |
May-25-04 09:29 AM |
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You know I have my masters in history |
bryant69 |
May-25-04 09:43 AM |
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Wall St plotted a military coup against FDR. Smedley Butler was asked ... |
AP |
May-25-04 10:04 AM |
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I guess where I would disagree with you |
bryant69 |
May-25-04 10:08 AM |
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That's how it is today. But it is the case that Republicans at the top of |
AP |
May-25-04 10:13 AM |
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I guess it's hard to put oneself back in that time |
bryant69 |
May-25-04 10:23 AM |
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From the 1890s to 1930s Republicans knew their masters: business. |
AP |
May-25-04 10:35 AM |
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So is this a fair statement? |
bryant69 |
May-25-04 10:38 AM |
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If you think what we have today is fascism (and I do), then you look |
AP |
May-25-04 11:01 AM |
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I know that. That's not the part I'm questioning. |
JHB |
May-25-04 10:20 AM |
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I'm not really sure where we're disagreeing. |
AP |
May-25-04 10:29 AM |
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"Nothing to fear..." was an anecdote to domestic fascism. |
AP |
May-25-04 08:53 AM |
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As an American citizen and sole surviving son of a US Marine that fought |
bobthedrummer |
May-25-04 11:26 AM |
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Conflagration, anyone? |
Village Idiot |
May-24-04 11:48 AM |
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you are a humanitarian do-gooder insurgent |
mopaul |
May-25-04 08:48 AM |
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'Oh we're having fireside chats |
Ironpost |
May-25-04 08:51 AM |
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Yeah. While Rome's burning, Bush talks to us like we're retarded. |
AP |
May-25-04 08:55 AM |
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Pleasant surprise when one of mine rises from the ashes. |
trof |
May-25-04 09:34 AM |
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mortimer |
mopaul |
May-25-04 09:43 AM |
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Damn! It IS Mortimer. |
trof |
May-25-04 09:52 AM |
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Free Campaign time on TV! |
Hubert Flottz |
May-25-04 09:50 AM |
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The thing is, FDR didn't do that many Fireside Chats. |
elperromagico |
May-25-04 09:39 AM |
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bush's speeches will be shown to students in speech class |
mopaul |
May-25-04 09:44 AM |
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His first was in 33, but he really poured it on after '39, I beleive. |
AP |
May-25-04 10:07 AM |
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He had delivered 14 by 1939. n/t |
elperromagico |
May-25-04 10:09 AM |
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So, 13 in first 6 years, 20 in last 6 years. |
AP |
May-25-04 10:17 AM |
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No, more like 17 in the last 6 years. |
elperromagico |
May-25-04 02:08 PM |
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I had the Bush speech on... |
IMModerate |
May-25-04 10:20 AM |
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Remember, GDub said he's running the WH like a business. |
Kurovski |
May-25-04 11:32 AM |
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The Stepford Prez does it again. 6 speeches gonna save his ass? |
opihimoimoi |
May-25-04 02:16 PM |
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