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Sat May-22-04 06:20 PM
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| 60. It doesn't seem to be a 'non issue' to many, many voters... |
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...not just the 'insanos' on this board.
- It MATTERS why we're in Iraq and how we got there. It matters that many of our representatives voted for this illegal slaughter and still say it was the 'right decision'.
- Don't underestimate the anti-Iraq war feelings in this country.
- And it's been said before: what kind of argument is it that Democrats were 'fooled' by the village idiot? Americans know by now they weren't deceived...but complicit.
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| -“I was wrong. I apologize. Now let’s move on.” - A Speech for John Kerry |
Q |
May-22-04 09:02 AM |
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He's already said he was wrong and apologized. He doesn't need... |
wyldwolf |
May-22-04 09:14 AM |
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When? Where? |
HFishbine |
May-23-04 10:37 AM |
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Here. There. Got link |
wyldwolf |
May-23-04 02:39 PM |
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I haven't seen him apologize. It looks as if he's avoided that. |
genius |
May-23-04 03:07 PM |
#110 |
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here it is again |
wyldwolf |
May-23-04 03:10 PM |
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Why should kerry apologize for being LIED TO? BUSH should apologize and |
radwriter0555 |
May-24-04 10:57 AM |
#121 |
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A lot of people had the same position as John Kerry |
emulatorloo |
May-22-04 10:12 AM |
#2 |
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fallacy ad populum |
Marianne |
May-22-04 11:50 AM |
#27 |
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exactly, wipe the slate clean! |
Carolina |
May-22-04 02:38 PM |
#42 |
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kick |
Tellurian |
May-22-04 03:39 PM |
#45 |
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I disagree with Epstein's premise |
Cocoa |
May-22-04 10:22 AM |
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Epstein is VAIN and STUPID. He doesn't UNDERSTAND that Kerry's vote |
blm |
May-22-04 10:28 AM |
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that would be a good argument` |
bpilgrim |
May-22-04 10:37 AM |
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Semantics. |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 10:51 AM |
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As a Senator, you're SUPPOSED to trust a president to implement |
blm |
May-22-04 10:56 AM |
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blm...that is a bit disingenuous |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-22-04 11:15 AM |
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So did Biden-Lugar, yet look at all the devoted Dean supporters |
blm |
May-22-04 05:48 PM |
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Didn't say he was...just real silent on an issue that is |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-23-04 03:27 AM |
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You should just change your nic to Biden-Luger |
Forkboy |
May-23-04 03:28 AM |
#85 |
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If the same old weren't singing the same old, then |
blm |
May-23-04 03:09 PM |
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lighten up Gunga Din |
Forkboy |
May-24-04 11:00 AM |
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same here.... |
blm |
May-24-04 01:09 PM |
#123 |
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As a Senator, you are SUPPOSED to use common sense. |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 11:35 AM |
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Kerry didn't vote for the war though. |
JHBowden |
May-22-04 11:37 AM |
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Again...the argument that it was only for "last resort" |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 11:46 AM |
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Consequence or Right? |
JHBowden |
May-22-04 11:52 AM |
#28 |
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Framing the debate your way... |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 12:07 PM |
#35 |
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Bread and Butter philosophy, my friend. |
JHBowden |
May-22-04 07:08 PM |
#68 |
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Please explain something for me. |
Nlighten1 |
May-23-04 07:51 AM |
#88 |
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then those who supported afghanistan war should apologize also |
JI7 |
May-22-04 11:57 AM |
#31 |
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Kerry was just plain covering his |
Carolina |
May-22-04 03:49 PM |
#47 |
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How was Kerry supposed to justify all of that publically? |
Monte Carlo |
May-22-04 03:55 PM |
#48 |
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How? |
Carolina |
May-22-04 11:01 PM |
#76 |
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Those 23 Dems were not all knowing. |
Monte Carlo |
May-23-04 10:58 AM |
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No, Kerry didn't launch a pre-emptive war |
Carolina |
May-23-04 11:09 AM |
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Well, then riddle me this... |
Tellurian |
May-22-04 04:10 PM |
#50 |
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he's being pilloried |
Carolina |
May-22-04 11:12 PM |
#77 |
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And... |
Tellurian |
May-23-04 10:00 AM |
#89 |
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No, your statements are dubious and intellectually dishonest |
Carolina |
May-23-04 10:34 AM |
#91 |
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Al Gore wasn't doomed because of the press.. |
Tellurian |
May-23-04 01:01 PM |
#102 |
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I really sick of your crap |
Carolina |
May-23-04 02:06 PM |
#103 |
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No,No,NO |
Ardee |
May-23-04 03:10 PM |
#112 |
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Except that it let Bush launch the war... |
Darranar |
May-22-04 11:53 AM |
#29 |
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Which he could have done WITHOUT a resolution. |
blm |
May-22-04 05:36 PM |
#54 |
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This thread will bring out the venom. |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 10:37 AM |
#5 |
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Does that mean denying them a vote? Then Congress is solid Republican |
jpgray |
May-22-04 10:57 AM |
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95 to 3 says you are wrong. |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 11:31 AM |
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How do you purge these people? |
jpgray |
May-22-04 11:35 AM |
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There are no easy answers but... |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 11:39 AM |
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Your work is pretty much worthless |
JHBowden |
May-22-04 11:40 AM |
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And who's fault will it be if Bush does? |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 11:43 AM |
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You have no idea how to get Democrats elected. |
JHBowden |
May-22-04 11:49 AM |
#26 |
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yup, look at where Barbara Boxer got elected |
JI7 |
May-22-04 11:55 AM |
#30 |
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"Public pledges of ideological purity " |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 11:59 AM |
#33 |
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The Illinois GOP destroys itself for this reason. |
JHBowden |
May-22-04 12:05 PM |
#34 |
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"they will be replaced by Republicans" |
JI7 |
May-22-04 11:45 AM |
#24 |
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I agree 100% |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-22-04 11:16 AM |
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Again, if you 'vote them out,' Republicans will fill that vacuum |
jpgray |
May-22-04 11:19 AM |
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Does it matter if Republicans fill the vacuum? |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 02:23 PM |
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YOU aren't the one going in front of the American people |
blm |
May-22-04 05:33 PM |
#53 |
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I never trusted numbnuts. NEVER!!!! |
greatauntoftriplets |
May-22-04 06:08 PM |
#59 |
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Neither did I. But, Kerry is in a position that NOONE else is in. |
blm |
May-22-04 06:33 PM |
#64 |
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Bold times...demand bold actions blm. |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-23-04 01:05 AM |
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YOU don't want Kerry to win....FINE. Go enjoy your life. |
blm |
May-23-04 03:16 PM |
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What does that have to do with the fact his IWR vote was.... |
greatauntoftriplets |
May-23-04 06:34 AM |
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I don't buy your assessment. Kerry consistently believed that Saddam |
blm |
May-23-04 03:13 PM |
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Epstein to Kerry -- Pander to me, even if you lose the election |
jpgray |
May-22-04 10:47 AM |
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Bullshit. Can I have a president who was smart enough not to have been |
Tinoire |
May-22-04 10:58 AM |
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What a surprise! Kerry gives convoluted pol-like speeches! |
jpgray |
May-22-04 11:06 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-22-04 05:17 PM |
#52 |
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So Jp... kerry & Political Expediency |
Tinoire |
May-22-04 05:53 PM |
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Kerry ALREADY APOLOGIZED FOR TRUSTING BUSH to use war as a last resort. |
blm |
May-22-04 06:57 PM |
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Kucinich has NOTHING to do with this thread. Unlike Kerry he did not shill |
Tinoire |
May-22-04 07:08 PM |
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The standards are different aren't they? |
blm |
May-23-04 03:40 PM |
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Tinoire, THANK YOU! |
rhite5 |
May-22-04 07:18 PM |
#69 |
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This is about who would be the better president, not who is pure |
jpgray |
May-22-04 09:00 PM |
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It isn't about idealogical purity either... |
Nlighten1 |
May-23-04 10:29 AM |
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Are you saying "get rid" of Kerry? |
Sparkly |
May-23-04 10:51 AM |
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If he is a Bush enabler... |
Nlighten1 |
May-23-04 11:05 AM |
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But Kerry was instrumental in uncovering Iran-Contra, wasn't he? |
Sparkly |
May-23-04 11:11 AM |
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Maybe not at this point and time... |
Nlighten1 |
May-23-04 11:33 AM |
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That deserves a toast |
nolabels |
May-23-04 02:10 PM |
#104 |
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well done-- |
Marianne |
May-22-04 12:11 PM |
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I do not forget those moments either! |
Tinoire |
May-22-04 06:23 PM |
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Thank you, Tinoire |
Carolina |
May-22-04 11:39 PM |
#79 |
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Tinoire: |
Q |
May-22-04 12:12 PM |
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Exactly. |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 02:27 PM |
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Q. I agree with you. I am just VERY angry. |
Tinoire |
May-22-04 06:24 PM |
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I wake up angry, go to bed tired and wonder through the day |
nolabels |
May-23-04 02:33 PM |
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Excellent post Tinoire |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 02:25 PM |
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Bush is just one of the 7 heads of the Hydra |
Tinoire |
May-22-04 06:26 PM |
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Maybe... |
Nlighten1 |
May-22-04 08:04 PM |
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Geez...and all those who said Kucinich was nuancing abortion and aligns |
blm |
May-22-04 05:43 PM |
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What the hell does that have to do with anything? |
Tinoire |
May-22-04 06:45 PM |
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Because Kucinich is yopur standard so that is the proper standard |
blm |
May-23-04 03:29 PM |
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Touche, Tinoire |
Carolina |
May-22-04 11:29 PM |
#78 |
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The insanos will never accept an apology. |
JHBowden |
May-22-04 11:11 AM |
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That is not an apology. That's an excuse. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
May-23-04 08:44 PM |
#119 |
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Don't hate the playa, hate the game. |
Monte Carlo |
May-22-04 11:58 AM |
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How about a Bush apology for deceiving Congress, and the World? |
EndElectoral |
May-22-04 02:27 PM |
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Apologize? Nah, he'll get the troops kinda out in only 4 years. |
bandera |
May-22-04 02:53 PM |
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Hey, that's peanuts as far as military occupations go. |
Monte Carlo |
May-22-04 03:43 PM |
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Are peanuts the same as collateral damage? |
bandera |
May-22-04 04:02 PM |
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That seems to be our situation. |
Monte Carlo |
May-22-04 05:04 PM |
#51 |
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What's so "realistic" about staying there and killing people? |
bandera |
May-23-04 12:08 AM |
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Because we don't know what will happen to Iraq. |
Monte Carlo |
May-23-04 10:48 AM |
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Why are we talking about the past, when it's our future that is at stake? |
Tellurian |
May-22-04 03:24 PM |
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This is a non-issue.....Jeeeez |
9215 |
May-22-04 05:57 PM |
#58 |
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It doesn't seem to be a 'non issue' to many, many voters... |
Q |
May-22-04 06:20 PM |
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If dwelling on why we're there would have one iota of impetus to get us |
Tellurian |
May-22-04 07:24 PM |
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My 'sensibilities'? |
Q |
May-22-04 07:59 PM |
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Your statement doesn't wash with mine, Q- |
Tellurian |
May-22-04 08:19 PM |
#73 |
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The quoted article says Kerry should apologize... |
Q |
May-22-04 11:47 PM |
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IMO this is the key: |
9215 |
May-22-04 09:54 PM |
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LOL!!! Yeaaagrrhhgghhhereeehhhaahh!!!!!! |
John_H |
May-23-04 12:12 AM |
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geez |
Forkboy |
May-23-04 03:33 AM |
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Bad advice. Period. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-23-04 10:49 AM |
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Kerry can't credibly say, "I should have known," because he did know. |
HFishbine |
May-23-04 10:54 AM |
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I'll take Kerry's word over "Common Dreams" any day |
wyldwolf |
May-23-04 02:52 PM |
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Thanks for posting the info... |
Tellurian |
May-23-04 03:04 PM |
#108 |
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Well |
HFishbine |
May-24-04 10:49 AM |
#120 |
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It's a good point. |
9215 |
May-23-04 06:45 PM |
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Good speech. It will win him votes and the election. |
genius |
May-23-04 03:05 PM |
#109 |
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Kerry needs to tell the TRUTH- there are still too many lies in that |
BullGooseLoony |
May-23-04 07:02 PM |
#118 |
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