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Fri May-21-04 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #28 |
| 58. I remember this! Clintoned WANTED a PNAC war |
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and I remember the "tour" to drum up support. Kerry wants to keep us in Iraq for four more years.
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| -Question for the 'Kerry = Bush-lite' folks |
WilliamPitt |
May-21-04 01:58 AM |
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the most conservative person talked about as having a position |
JI7 |
May-21-04 02:04 AM |
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I seem to remember James Baker being mentioned at one point |
ibegurpard |
May-21-04 03:19 AM |
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Yes |
HFishbine |
May-21-04 07:37 AM |
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Bush lite means "Me too!" |
niceypoo |
May-21-04 09:06 AM |
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That is what I am saying. |
Cascadian |
May-23-04 09:17 AM |
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It's entirely possible |
laconicsax |
May-21-04 02:08 AM |
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So my baseless prediction is bad, but yours is OK? |
WilliamPitt |
May-21-04 02:10 AM |
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nader said gore would have gone into iraq |
JI7 |
May-21-04 02:12 AM |
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Nader's an idiot |
Stephanie |
May-21-04 02:13 AM |
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correct |
Skittles |
May-21-04 04:54 AM |
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Nader did nothing but... |
Nlighten1 |
May-21-04 08:50 AM |
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HEAR HEAR! eom |
silverpatronus |
May-21-04 10:02 AM |
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Bravo nlighten |
Ardee |
May-23-04 08:27 PM |
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And Clinton did start. Sent Albright & Berger out on a TOUR to drum up |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 07:22 AM |
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I remember this! Clintoned WANTED a PNAC war |
Alerter_ |
May-21-04 09:41 AM |
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Yugoslavia was step one of the PNAC wars |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 09:48 AM |
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More than four... |
Darranar |
May-23-04 09:08 AM |
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gore said he would not have |
goodhue |
May-21-04 10:47 AM |
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not alone, not without a plan, not without a credible reason |
gasperc |
May-21-04 11:42 AM |
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And Gore said he wouldn't have attacked Iraq |
texasblueeyes |
May-22-04 11:05 AM |
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Once again, Nader failed to listen to what Gore actually said |
AlGore2004dotORG |
May-26-04 10:28 AM |
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Torture... |
The_Enlightenment |
May-21-04 02:13 AM |
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Don't be stupid |
Stephanie |
May-21-04 02:17 AM |
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You're kidding right? What about the School of the Americas |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 07:08 AM |
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Problems on several counts |
kiahzero |
May-21-04 07:25 AM |
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But ur point is what? That we just teach torture & know nothing about it? |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 08:24 AM |
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I'm well aware of what US Forces did in Latin America |
kiahzero |
May-21-04 08:37 AM |
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You didn't tell me anything. You regurgitated white-washing propaganda |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 09:43 AM |
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hey lets start another SOA thread for the apologists! |
tinanator |
May-23-04 09:01 AM |
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The US has never condoned torture? |
Darranar |
May-23-04 09:14 AM |
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OK, let me rephrase that (a little) |
Why |
May-21-04 11:09 AM |
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I am so horrified I can't stop crying |
Stephanie |
May-21-04 02:12 AM |
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It's no longer ours either |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 07:23 AM |
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I am crying too because I have come face-to-face with who we are |
keithyboy |
May-21-04 10:13 AM |
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Who can tell Will? |
freeforall |
May-21-04 02:14 AM |
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Those things are happening under Plan Colombia |
IndianaGreen |
May-21-04 02:15 AM |
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Thank you Indy. These apologetics are a little weak. |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 07:13 AM |
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A *LITTLE* WEAK?! |
redqueen |
May-21-04 07:07 PM |
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Kind? Are you being sarcastic? I feel like a total bitch |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 09:27 AM |
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absolutely true: US foreign policy contains a common thread |
EdGy |
May-22-04 08:35 AM |
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In a word, yes. |
JackDragna |
May-21-04 02:20 AM |
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Oh please |
Stephanie |
May-21-04 02:41 AM |
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Look at some of the posts above. |
JackDragna |
May-21-04 02:51 AM |
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Johnson was in office |
Djinn |
May-21-04 03:01 AM |
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My Lai happened on LBJ's watch as well. |
greatauntoftriplets |
May-21-04 06:51 AM |
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I knew Bush was full of shit and dangerous and his followers delusional |
Cheswick |
May-21-04 08:53 AM |
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That's a major crock, and you should know better. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-21-04 09:37 AM |
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Wow! It's a major crock! |
JackDragna |
May-21-04 10:56 PM |
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Yeah. |
Paragon |
May-21-04 03:03 AM |
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NO but, if it did |
mr_du04 |
May-21-04 03:04 AM |
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snorf! |
KG |
May-21-04 05:07 AM |
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No. Not if he *knew* it was happening. |
Blue-Jay |
May-21-04 05:26 AM |
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So anything this side of Hitler is ok? |
Don Claybrook |
May-21-04 05:41 AM |
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How about a candidate who doesn't chase windmills? |
Why |
May-21-04 11:30 AM |
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Why are you talking about Nader? |
Don Claybrook |
May-22-04 07:00 AM |
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Actually, it does. |
Why |
May-22-04 11:23 AM |
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Maybe because they're something to sell there |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 09:30 AM |
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Ham sandwich or bust! |
Forkboy |
May-21-04 05:59 AM |
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Absolutely. |
durutti |
May-21-04 06:35 AM |
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If Gore was Pres. we wouldn't even be in Iraq right now. |
Killarney |
May-21-04 06:47 AM |
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YES, YES, YES, YES, YES |
DemVet |
May-21-04 07:26 AM |
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bull |
Cheswick |
May-21-04 08:47 AM |
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Simplistic... |
DemVet |
May-21-04 10:42 AM |
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nonsense bub |
Cheswick |
May-23-04 06:10 PM |
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How does someone inheriting a military... |
tjwash |
May-21-04 10:43 AM |
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It sure as hell happened under Senator Kerry |
HFishbine |
May-21-04 07:30 AM |
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How many Democrats voted AGAINST going to Iraq? Not too... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-21-04 09:38 AM |
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Nope |
HFishbine |
May-21-04 09:54 AM |
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Nope. Not too damn many as you say. |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 10:49 AM |
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23 or roughly half of them |
Carolina |
May-23-04 10:52 AM |
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look at the ones in the congress |
Cheswick |
May-23-04 06:14 PM |
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Actually, two-thirds of the House voted against IWR |
Larkspur |
May-24-04 12:34 PM |
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yup. |
jonnyblitz |
May-21-04 07:36 AM |
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Here they come, the same ol' people. |
John_H |
May-21-04 07:36 AM |
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That should tell you something |
HFishbine |
May-21-04 07:48 AM |
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it'll also be good to see the |
Djinn |
May-23-04 06:27 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-21-04 08:09 AM |
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ug |
Nlighten1 |
May-21-04 08:47 AM |
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Thanks & thanks for reading that & commenting |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 09:26 AM |
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I wonder why your post was deleted? |
Nlighten1 |
May-21-04 01:34 PM |
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Amazing. It didn't insult anyone. Shows you how much the truth |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 09:56 AM |
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Quite possible. |
PsychoDad |
May-21-04 08:16 AM |
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How can anybody think Kerry is PNAC? |
Sparkly |
May-21-04 09:08 AM |
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Have you read of the DLC's collaboration with PNAC? Of PPI? |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 09:37 AM |
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PNAC/PPI are not Coke/Pepsi |
Sparkly |
May-21-04 10:52 AM |
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_Probably_ not, but |
GreenPartyVoter |
May-21-04 08:27 AM |
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I think Kerry voted for this to happen because he wanted to be President |
Cheswick |
May-21-04 08:45 AM |
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What?! No Senators voted for *this* to happen! |
Sparkly |
May-21-04 09:05 AM |
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most of them voted for this war knowing it was crap |
Cheswick |
May-21-04 09:35 AM |
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He didn't vote for torture pictures cuz he wanted to be president? |
Sparkly |
May-21-04 09:47 AM |
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" I absolutely do not believe Kerry or others voted for the IWR .... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-21-04 11:01 AM |
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Why? |
Sparkly |
May-21-04 07:08 PM |
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Same reason he voted for every aspect of corporate globalization |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 09:47 AM |
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And many of those aspects of corporate globalization... |
Darranar |
May-23-04 11:22 AM |
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That's how I view it. I found Kerry curiously silent during the sugar |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 11:31 AM |
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The DLC may be less evil than the RNC... |
Darranar |
May-23-04 11:41 AM |
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Well written. That's my position too. n/t |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 11:47 AM |
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well then neither of you is smart enough to be president |
Cheswick |
May-23-04 06:12 PM |
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Yes, they did vote for this to happen |
Radical Activist |
May-21-04 10:19 AM |
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They voted to defend the US |
Sparkly |
May-21-04 10:48 AM |
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Defend from who? |
Radical Activist |
May-21-04 10:47 PM |
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"without cause" |
Sparkly |
May-23-04 08:55 PM |
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If anyone knew what that vote would do it was Kerry! |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 09:54 AM |
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DEFEND the US? |
Cheswick |
May-23-04 06:27 PM |
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Yes, I know |
Sparkly |
May-23-04 08:58 PM |
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If you sign somebody's |
darboy |
May-23-04 07:43 PM |
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Well said. n/t |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 10:50 AM |
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yes, exactly |
Cheswick |
May-23-04 06:25 PM |
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I expect more from you WilliamPitt than this. . . |
beam_me_up |
May-21-04 09:21 AM |
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Can I just add "Ditto"? Thank you. |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 09:28 AM |
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Amen! |
Paulie |
May-21-04 10:01 AM |
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I dont |
Forkboy |
May-23-04 04:48 AM |
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Never mind that my friend... |
Nlighten1 |
May-23-04 09:31 AM |
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Right before these pictures broke wide open |
CWebster |
May-21-04 09:35 AM |
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I thought Kerry was referring to part of his statement where he... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
May-21-04 09:45 AM |
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his own words: |
CWebster |
May-21-04 10:03 AM |
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There it is in black and white: |
beam_me_up |
May-21-04 10:16 AM |
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Damn Beam_me_up |
Tinoire |
May-21-04 10:51 AM |
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Kerry: "we must stay the course" in Iraq |
Radical Activist |
May-21-04 10:15 AM |
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Is there a reason to believe he wouldn't? |
leesa |
May-21-04 10:20 AM |
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Here's my take on the Bush Administration....Joke for the Day! |
Tight_rope |
May-21-04 10:37 AM |
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NO! A THOUSAND TIMES NONO NO!!!!!!!!! |
tom_paine |
May-21-04 10:50 AM |
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Over the course of the 4 years he's proposing? Hell, yes. |
bandera |
May-21-04 10:54 AM |
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Maybe, maybe not |
Vladimir |
May-21-04 11:00 AM |
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Yeah, I'm still voting for him |
dave29 |
May-21-04 11:26 AM |
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Well, actually... |
the_real_38 |
May-21-04 11:42 AM |
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War crimes are not the sole property of the Republican party... |
markomalley |
May-21-04 07:02 PM |
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Thread turned out to be a magnet for the loony, uninformed tinfoiled crowd |
robbedvoter |
May-21-04 11:18 PM |
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Kerry is as much a facist as anyone else in Congress who voted for the |
AudreyT |
May-22-04 08:23 AM |
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I guess if I need tinfoil to say Kerry is a "politician" then... |
markomalley |
May-22-04 10:59 AM |
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right on |
tinanator |
May-23-04 03:51 AM |
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Too bad you missed Tinoire's earlier post... |
Nlighten1 |
May-23-04 09:27 AM |
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"loony, uninformed tinfoil crowd"? |
Darranar |
May-23-04 11:33 AM |
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Hey Will, let me add to that list if you will (no pun intended). |
Rebellious Republican |
May-22-04 07:25 AM |
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yup |
AudreyT |
May-22-04 08:05 AM |
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I dont think it would have happened under President Gore |
tinanator |
May-22-04 08:21 AM |
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aw heck no, of course not |
tinanator |
May-22-04 08:46 AM |
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You're too damned astute my friend |
Tinoire |
May-22-04 11:05 AM |
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Absolutely |
Astarho |
May-22-04 11:20 AM |
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Absolutely. |
eurolefty |
May-23-04 04:39 AM |
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Yes. n/t |
Darranar |
May-23-04 09:06 AM |
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Well. Since my earlier post was deleted for killing your argument dead |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 10:12 AM |
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no real wonder actually |
tinanator |
May-23-04 10:26 AM |
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LMAO. Thanks n/t |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 11:25 AM |
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What was in your post? |
GeronimoSkull |
May-23-04 11:08 AM |
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I have no idea why it was deleted |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 11:25 AM |
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The lesser of two evils is still |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-23-04 11:42 AM |
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Hi and damned typo! |
Tinoire |
May-23-04 11:51 AM |
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No. |
LWolf |
May-23-04 10:14 AM |
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no, but it was predictable that BushCo |
Carolina |
May-23-04 10:44 AM |
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One administration versus an entire country. |
Gregorian |
May-23-04 11:30 AM |
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Deleted message |
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May-23-04 03:43 PM |
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Maybe it's time you looked at |
Djinn |
May-23-04 06:44 PM |
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I'm not a Kerry = Bush lite folk, but the answer is yes.... |
Violet_Crumble |
May-24-04 06:14 AM |
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does anyone else hear that sound when they open this thread? |
tinanator |
May-24-04 09:03 AM |
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If Kerry is following the liberal-hawks, like Biden and Holbrooke |
Larkspur |
May-24-04 12:40 PM |
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Makes one wonder why Kerry voted for those things to happen |
JVS |
May-25-04 11:21 AM |
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Why no reponses from you Will? |
Forkboy |
May-25-04 11:43 AM |
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kick |
Forkboy |
May-26-04 09:58 AM |
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wow, great, effective post! thanks WilliamPitt. n/t |
Paradise |
May-26-04 10:16 AM |
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the entire fucking WAR is the problem, not just Abu Ghraib |
scrotim |
May-26-04 10:35 AM |
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I'm not a Kerry=Bushie, but I object to the premis of this thread |
AlGore2004dotORG |
May-26-04 10:53 AM |
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THANK YOU! Wartime atrocities occur under Democrats too! |
bigbillhaywood |
May-26-04 01:30 PM |
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That post has all the integrity of a Willie Horton ad |
GeronimoSkull |
May-26-04 01:38 PM |
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You are correct on both counts |
Forkboy |
May-26-04 01:54 PM |
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