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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-20-04 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #4
14. you also have a point
maybe godard is looking for a more allegorical interpretation of current events -- but that is his style... moore's style is his own, so be it

i would have to see godard's latest to really fully comment on this -- but the news clip surprised me considering the godard stuff i'm familiar with -- since a lot of it jabs at the establishment -- on a symbolic level
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  -Jean-Luc Godard chides Moore sundog  May-20-04 08:55 AM   #0 
  - Sounds like Jealousy..  KissMyAsscroft   May-20-04 08:56 AM   #1 
  - Godard jealous of Michael Moore?  markses   May-20-04 08:59 AM   #3 
     - Yes. He's jealous. Even legendary auteurs get it sometimes.  Screaming Lord Byron   May-20-04 09:03 AM   #6 
     - You've got a point  sundog   May-20-04 09:10 AM   #9 
     - He's jealous because outside of film buffs  RummyTheDummy   May-20-04 08:28 PM   #43 
        - You may believe that  markses   May-20-04 08:50 PM   #49 
           - I stand by my statement  RummyTheDummy   May-20-04 08:55 PM   #50 
  - Godard's film is being screened "outside of the competition"  Bridget Burke   May-20-04 08:57 AM   #2 
  - I know I'll get flamed by the Moore cheerleaders....  vi5   May-20-04 08:59 AM   #4 
  - I agree  markses   May-20-04 09:10 AM   #10 
  - "rhetorical acts with particular effects"  Bridget Burke   May-20-04 09:34 AM   #17 
  - Moore's smart enough to know he's using rhetorical techniques ...  Lisa   May-20-04 06:05 PM   #27 
     - Appealing to emotion  markses   May-20-04 06:32 PM   #31 
        - how about if the argument is meant to be based on logic?  Lisa   May-20-04 07:07 PM   #32 
           - Well, since we were discussing  markses   May-20-04 07:23 PM   #37 
              - okay, so that's it ...  Lisa   May-20-04 07:36 PM   #39 
  - you also have a point  sundog   May-20-04 09:30 AM   #14 
  - Allegory is wasted upon American movie-goers  gottaB   May-20-04 07:36 PM   #38 
  - Totally agree. & to think Godard would be jealous of Moore is to not know  Tinoire   May-20-04 09:31 AM   #15 
  - Wasn't he on Star Trek--The Next Generation?  RummyTheDummy   May-20-04 08:31 PM   #44 
  - That's what I saw in Mike Malloy  DS1   May-20-04 09:38 AM   #18 
  - Good points, vi5  alarcoeg   May-20-04 06:30 PM   #30 
  - Unfortunately, filmmakers like Moore have more impact than Godard  Snellius   May-20-04 08:18 PM   #41 
  - Ahh yes  RummyTheDummy   May-20-04 08:44 PM   #47 
  - Hmmmmm  RummyTheDummy   May-20-04 08:41 PM   #46 
  - I wish he would elaborate  Cocoa   May-20-04 09:01 AM   #5 
  - Probably by throwing red meat to the RW base.  RUMMYisFROSTED   May-20-04 09:04 AM   #7 
     - that's very abstract  Cocoa   May-20-04 09:12 AM   #11 
        - Well, it is Godard. (abstract)  RUMMYisFROSTED   May-20-04 09:34 AM   #16 
  - I don't think so  Corgigal   May-20-04 09:04 AM   #8 
  - Okay here is the part where Fox has to quote someone named Jean-Luc  underpants   May-20-04 09:13 AM   #12 
  - yes  sundog   May-20-04 09:23 AM   #13 
     - They will refer to him as  tishaLA   May-20-04 09:39 AM   #19 
        - i'm getting  sundog   May-20-04 09:40 AM   #21 
        - or Jon Luc Picard - of the Enterprise  SpiralHawk   May-20-04 07:15 PM   #35 
  - on other hand, by slamming Moore, Godard has done what?  DS1   May-20-04 09:40 AM   #20 
  - i don't think it's calculated  sundog   May-20-04 09:45 AM   #24 
     - but catch what? As underpants noted, he's French, so he can't be right  DS1   May-20-04 09:52 AM   #26 
  - Watch Bowling for Columbine - Watch Weekend  soleft   May-20-04 09:41 AM   #22 
  - Then watch 'Sympathy for the Devil'  Screaming Lord Byron   May-20-04 09:47 AM   #25 
     - That was a stinker.  RandomKoolzip   May-20-04 06:22 PM   #29 
  - this has to be filtered through Godard's theoretical perspective  56kid   May-20-04 09:41 AM   #23 
  - What the fuck????  Egalitarian Zetetic   May-20-04 06:10 PM   #28 
  - "although he admitted that he had not seen it"  Selwynn   May-20-04 07:08 PM   #33 
  - Godard needs to see the movie first. Just because Moore is a fat American  AP   May-20-04 07:10 PM   #34 
  - The reviews I have read note that Moore does not do as much  demgrrrll   May-20-04 07:22 PM   #36 
  - Moore doesn't appear on screen as much. But, the whole thing is  AP   May-20-04 11:18 PM   #51 
     - If he runs a scene without comment then it is up to the viewer to decide  demgrrrll   May-20-04 11:39 PM   #54 
        - Even if he narrates a scene, it's still upt to the viewer what opinion...  AP   May-20-04 11:55 PM   #55 
  - But Godard also participated in  tishaLA   May-20-04 08:37 PM   #45 
     - I'm just guessing, but I'm just so sure that he's saying that you can't...  AP   May-20-04 11:27 PM   #52 
  - As An Art Critic, I Am Appalled That He Hasn't Seen The Film  cryingshame   May-20-04 07:55 PM   #40 
  - The typical Heathers in this thread are dissing Moore  trumad   May-20-04 08:26 PM   #42 
  - It's possible that he tried to make that clear, but that the press...  AP   May-20-04 11:29 PM   #53 
  - Godard is a walking, talking example of why the French should never  John_H   May-20-04 08:50 PM   #48 
  - "Just spell my name right. Eisner hates me too. I'll be here all week."JLG  TacticalPeak   May-21-04 12:25 AM   #56 

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