Reply #1: I couldn't agree more, but the real question for me is this...

[Mikimouse]

Are we, as a people and a society, really culturally mature enough to submit to an international review of our actions? I would argue tha we are still at the 'petulant child' stage, where we have a vague understanding that we have done something very wrong, but will rationalize it any way we can, largely to avoid having to review our own individual actions. This topic has come up time and time again, in various venues, ranging from the loss of international credibility, to increasing gas prices, and more often than not, the messenger gets shot on sight. Reality bites, but as we often say in the addiction treatment field, 'pain is a rgeat motivator'. We are never going to get anywhere until we own the pain we have caused.