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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-03 09:59 AM
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45. E. St. Louis Reputation
I grew up in Edwardsville, another part of the St. Louis metro area which has transformed from small town in the 70's when I was growing up to suburban bedroom community these days.

I was taught as a young child that E. St. Louis was unwelcome to white people - the population at that time was about 90% black. It was acknolwedged that a primary reason for this was incessant poverty and the crime that went along with it. Traveling to E. St. Louis for high school sports events wasn't consider a particularly safe activity. E. St. Louis had the most successful football and track programs in the state for many many years - Jackie Joyner and her family are products of E. St. Louis track and field - to her credit Jackie has built a large sports/community center in E. St. Louis. The constant fear in a number of towns (Alton as a good example) that had growing black populations was ending up as "another E. St. Louis."

To me, one of the most depressing components is the rife corruption in E. St. Louis one period, lack of city government money for garbage collection led to literally huge piles of garbage all around the city.

I work in a public library in the state of Illinois and as in many other areas, E. St. Louis has received significant state money to improve libraries. A new central library was recently built, but questions about management linger.

It is a very depressing situation...from what I've heard through the years, E. St. Louis was once a beautiful city in the first part of the 20th century but it is now decades that there has been little of those corners of America that is far too easy for most to ignore.
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  -E. St. Louis jiacinto  Aug-11-03 12:57 AM   #0 
  - Don't Know  sistersofmercy   Aug-11-03 01:08 AM   #1 
  - What would they built  jiacinto   Aug-11-03 01:11 AM   #2 
     - No  sistersofmercy   Aug-11-03 01:23 AM   #3 
        - Ok  jiacinto   Aug-11-03 01:28 AM   #4 
           - Hey By the Way  sistersofmercy   Aug-11-03 01:44 AM   #5 
              - I like feedback too  jiacinto   Aug-11-03 12:11 PM   #6 
  - Collinsville is about 10 or 12 miles from ESL.  GOPisEvil   Aug-11-03 12:16 PM   #7 
  - hey fellow st. louisan  sistersofmercy   Aug-12-03 12:55 AM   #8 
  - I don't live there, but my family does...  GOPisEvil   Aug-12-03 12:47 PM   #20 
  - Is this the same pedestrian bridge they'd closed some years ago?  playahata1   Aug-13-03 02:31 PM   #60 
  - What happened in the 1960s  jiacinto   Aug-12-03 12:35 PM   #15 
  - Thousands...  Randi_Listener   Aug-12-03 12:58 AM   #9 
  - I never been to St. Louis  quinnox   Aug-12-03 12:58 AM   #10 
  - Stop In Sometime  sistersofmercy   Aug-12-03 01:39 AM   #13 
     - Thanks, I will  quinnox   Aug-12-03 02:23 AM   #14 
  - Why are you asking about ESL and Collinsville?  Eloriel   Aug-12-03 12:58 AM   #11 
  - Why is Colinsville nice and  jiacinto   Aug-12-03 12:36 PM   #17 
     - Carlos, I asked you why you were interested in  Eloriel   Aug-13-03 12:42 AM   #38 
  - Why do you ask? If  salin   Aug-12-03 01:03 AM   #12 
  - I am curious about that town  jiacinto   Aug-12-03 12:36 PM   #16 
  - I live in Ladue in St. Louis County...  Syn_Dem   Aug-12-03 12:40 PM   #18 
  - This is what I know  jiacinto   Aug-12-03 12:43 PM   #19 
  - True  sistersofmercy   Aug-12-03 11:41 PM   #32 
     - One question  jiacinto   Aug-13-03 09:34 AM   #43 
  - Hey Ladue  sistersofmercy   Aug-12-03 11:38 PM   #31 
  - Ladue huh? are you sure you are not repuklikan? n/t  8643   Aug-13-03 07:20 AM   #40 
     - Ladue has a large Dem contingent.  GumboYaYa   Aug-13-03 09:35 AM   #44 
  - Geography  SaintLouisBlues   Aug-12-03 12:54 PM   #21 
  - Ok  jiacinto   Aug-12-03 12:56 PM   #22 
  - White Flight  SaintLouisBlues   Aug-12-03 01:06 PM   #23 
  - Good way to put it...  sistersofmercy   Aug-12-03 11:45 PM   #33 
  - Hey fellow St. Louisians.  GumboYaYa   Aug-12-03 01:39 PM   #24 
  - Northside  SaintLouisBlues   Aug-12-03 01:50 PM   #26 
  - Hey, welcome to DU.  GumboYaYa   Aug-12-03 02:07 PM   #29 
  - I agree  sistersofmercy   Aug-12-03 11:50 PM   #34 
  - Great Wilco Song  zekeson   Aug-12-03 01:42 PM   #25 
  - Buckminster Fuller once proposed replacing ESL with a dome  KamaAina   Aug-12-03 01:51 PM   #27 
  - More E. St. Louis thoughts...  GOPisEvil   Aug-12-03 02:01 PM   #28 
  - Hey parts of St louis are no picnic...  sistersofmercy   Aug-13-03 12:02 AM   #35 
     - Was it that bad?  jiacinto   Aug-13-03 12:40 AM   #37 
  - kick  jiacinto   Aug-12-03 11:28 PM   #30 
  - from what i've sounds like many urban areas  noiretblu   Aug-13-03 12:23 AM   #36 
  - Exactly  SaintLouisBlues   Aug-13-03 06:40 AM   #39 
     - it's amazing, saintlouisblues  noiretblu   Aug-13-03 10:45 AM   #47 
        - Hey - if anyone needs a guide through ESL, let me know.  GOPisEvil   Aug-13-03 10:50 AM   #49 
        - a friend in college was from east st. louis  noiretblu   Aug-13-03 11:01 AM   #51 
        - I was more afraid of the smell in my grandparents' house.  GOPisEvil   Aug-13-03 11:07 AM   #52 
           - LOL...seriously, i feel more afraid in Portland than i do in Oakland  noiretblu   Aug-13-03 11:15 AM   #53 
        - Officer is Mayor again!  SaintLouisBlues   Aug-13-03 11:26 AM   #55 
           - LOL!!! He is????  GOPisEvil   Aug-13-03 11:27 AM   #56 
        - Good point, noiretblu  SaintLouisBlues   Aug-13-03 11:19 AM   #54 
  - East St. Louis, et al.  The_Golden_Child   Aug-13-03 09:29 AM   #41 
  - Ok  jiacinto   Aug-13-03 09:33 AM   #42 
  - Almost its entire history?  SaintLouisBlues   Aug-13-03 10:33 AM   #46 
  - Sorry for the confusion...  The_Golden_Child   Aug-13-03 10:48 AM   #48 
  - Bob Shannon is a strange bird...  The_Golden_Child   Aug-13-03 10:53 AM   #50 
  - E. St. Louis Reputation  helleborient   Aug-13-03 09:59 AM   #45 
  - Yeah I fully understand  jiacinto   Aug-13-03 02:17 PM   #58 
  - Wow, I thought this thread wouldve died a long time ago  Syn_Dem   Aug-13-03 02:12 PM   #57 
  - A Key Website  jiacinto   Aug-13-03 02:18 PM   #59 
     - kick  jiacinto   Aug-14-03 01:06 AM   #61 

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