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Thu May-13-04 12:53 PM
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Edited on Thu May-13-04 12:56 PM by jokerman2004
I appreciate where you're coming from, I do, but your understanding of the Law of Thelema: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" is woefully unexamined and (ironically) literalist -- even fundamentalist in nature.
The "will" spoken of in Crowley's Thelemic law is the inherent and unique divine will of each sovereign created being. The belief is that through magickal discipline (which is a western parallel to eastern yogic discipline), one may gradually come to a knowledge of their own true will, and then live in accordance with that will.
If all beings lived in accordance with their inherent will, none would interfere with the orbit of another's life. It very much suggests a condition of non-interference which is almost Buddhist in character. You are misinformed and unread on this point at the very least.
I say this respectfully Bob, and encourage you to attempt a more scholarly approach to the occult material you refer to as a basis for your arguments.
The correct and complete wording of the occult philosophy of will follows:
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the law, love under will...So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do that, and no other shall say nay. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect."
Liber Al vel Legis
(sorry about my typos and spelling mistakes, spellchecker craps out my posting for some reason on this computer.)
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| -Videos exist of satanic ritual abuse committed by US military and mercs. |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 08:14 AM |
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Got links |
seventhson |
May-13-04 08:17 AM |
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No, If I were a spy I'd work HUMINT not SIGINT. |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 08:22 AM |
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911, Offit Airforce Base, Warren Buffet, Bush, Sex Torture |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 10:16 AM |
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Here's a thread you should see, Alerter, from last September, |
Minstrel Boy |
May-13-04 10:33 AM |
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You beat me to it... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-13-04 11:24 AM |
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Also see Paul Bonacci |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-13-04 11:30 AM |
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Michael Jackson just busted, now has NATION OF ISLAM |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 03:26 PM |
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why HUMINT not SIGINT? |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 11:26 AM |
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If I were a spy-I'm not, just an American citizen that uses open source |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 11:31 AM |
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Virtual Govern't by Alex Constantine |
shooga |
May-13-04 03:23 PM |
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I afraid the Mercs are. You can't send them in with no laws applying and |
MSgt213 |
May-13-04 08:19 AM |
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Is this a joke? |
Ripley |
May-13-04 08:19 AM |
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Absolutely no joke, law enforcement is being prevented from making arrests |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 08:25 AM |
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Okay. |
Ripley |
May-13-04 08:32 AM |
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"Why are the Dems such lily-livered appeasers!" |
redqueen |
May-13-04 11:31 AM |
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Has Justice Souter been seen in public since he was attacked? |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 01:42 PM |
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Either put up or .... you know.... |
Selwynn |
May-13-04 09:13 AM |
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Call a Senator or two or decent law enforcement-don't take my word |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 11:01 AM |
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Michael Jackson got away with it for so long - now the NATION OF ISLAM |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 09:28 AM |
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Isn't this standard operating procedure? |
Minstrel Boy |
May-13-04 08:53 AM |
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sounds crazy, except ... |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 08:59 AM |
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"Crazy" is part of the "process"-just like "no sense makes sense" |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 09:12 AM |
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Aquino is cultist who happened to be in the military at one time |
jokerman2004 |
May-13-04 09:04 AM |
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It's a bit more than that, Col. Michael Aquino contributed a lot to the |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 09:48 AM |
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Don't get me wrong |
jokerman2004 |
May-13-04 11:23 AM |
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Yes, things like the reversal of Abe Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 11:56 AM |
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Bob |
jokerman2004 |
May-13-04 12:53 PM |
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jokerman2004, I'm a Christian with a half-Jewish nephew whom I love. |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 01:10 PM |
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Good for you Bob |
jokerman2004 |
May-13-04 01:38 PM |
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"hard science behind it all" |
Alerter_ |
May-14-04 09:14 PM |
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This explains the government-supplied Black Mass transit |
jmowreader |
May-13-04 11:39 AM |
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Thanks for sharing your experiences and serving our nation. |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 12:09 PM |
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Satanic my eye! |
jokerman2004 |
May-13-04 09:00 AM |
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Wonder if that's where |
Karenina |
May-13-04 09:08 AM |
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Well said and absolutely right! |
Dhalgren |
May-14-04 10:06 AM |
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My point in starting this thread is that law enforcement has been |
bobthedrummer |
May-14-04 10:19 AM |
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Um could you clarify that |
Az |
May-13-04 09:34 AM |
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simulated rites? Why not |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 09:37 AM |
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The boogeyman of American culture is known to law enforcement |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 10:45 AM |
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But, they were just Following the Leader |
SpiralHawk |
May-13-04 09:37 AM |
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But Remember...so did |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-13-04 11:28 AM |
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the $10,000 question |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 03:54 PM |
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Don't start this idiocy again |
TrogL |
May-13-04 11:11 AM |
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Oh my goodness-"idiocy" and now you refer to CIA shrinks "theories" |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 11:21 AM |
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Retrieved memories are bullshit |
kiahzero |
May-14-04 11:03 PM |
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Responsible members of all professions signed away their ethics |
bobthedrummer |
May-16-04 09:42 PM |
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Did jebbush ever find all those missing kids in FL? |
flatbroker |
May-13-04 11:27 AM |
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No |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-13-04 11:29 AM |
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lots of kids missing from foster homes all around Florida |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 11:46 AM |
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Get real.... |
the_real_38 |
May-13-04 11:29 AM |
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And in Washington state...comes this |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-13-04 11:43 AM |
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## Support Democratic Underground! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
May-13-04 11:46 AM |
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There is little that I won't consider as being possible with this regime. |
demgrrrll |
May-13-04 12:08 PM |
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I believe the Pentagon just showed some of that evidence to our Senators |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 12:26 PM |
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I believe you. It seems like there have been rumblings about this |
demgrrrll |
May-13-04 12:54 PM |
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I got a book called "The New Satanists" by Linda Blood. |
Joanne98 |
May-13-04 12:24 PM |
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That doesn't make you Jesus |
seemslikeadream |
May-13-04 01:03 PM |
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Of course not, but it helps to believe that one didn't commit "THE |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 02:05 PM |
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Thanks for posting those lyrics, that link |
redqueen |
May-13-04 02:52 PM |
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The words are way more effective when she is at the piano |
seemslikeadream |
May-13-04 03:51 PM |
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The gift that keeps on giving, isn't it? |
redqueen |
May-13-04 03:52 PM |
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Beyond shame, sister. |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 04:04 PM |
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14 pairs of Gypsy twins |
seemslikeadream |
May-14-04 12:52 PM |
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"Tommorrow, the Stars!", can kiss my John Kerry ass! |
bobthedrummer |
May-14-04 12:59 PM |
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Old symbols preserved like ants in amber |
seemslikeadream |
May-14-04 04:27 PM |
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The Passing of the Great Race |
seemslikeadream |
May-14-04 08:47 PM |
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Hitler's debt to America |
seemslikeadream |
May-14-04 09:04 PM |
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The evidence shown to our Senators should be released |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 01:30 PM |
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show the evidence to the State Governors and Legislature |
Alerter_ |
May-14-04 11:20 PM |
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No link? |
rinsd |
May-13-04 01:55 PM |
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Here's one... |
Aries |
May-13-04 02:20 PM |
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Thank you Aries. |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 02:22 PM |
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De nada, Bob |
Aries |
May-13-04 02:34 PM |
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Okay...but how does this relate to now? |
rinsd |
May-13-04 02:49 PM |
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See 20 above. |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-13-04 02:51 PM |
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I don't think you're understating the situation, Andy. |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 03:08 PM |
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I think I do... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
May-13-04 03:10 PM |
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"Now" we are seeing the continuation of a pattern |
Aries |
May-13-04 03:12 PM |
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As I clearly stated I've heard rumors of SRA perpetrated on video |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 03:36 PM |
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"National security" covers a multitude of sins. |
Minstrel Boy |
May-13-04 03:57 PM |
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kick |
Alerter_ |
May-14-04 07:21 AM |
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So are you suggesting |
jokerman2004 |
May-14-04 11:36 AM |
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the "real Satanic underground" |
Alerter_ |
May-14-04 12:28 PM |
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Oh look. |
kiahzero |
May-14-04 11:12 PM |
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If I read with any understanding |
drfemoe |
May-14-04 11:37 PM |
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Who decides this |
LibertyorDeath |
May-15-04 03:08 AM |
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For background, here's an impressive six-part series by |
Minstrel Boy |
May-13-04 02:40 PM |
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Too many professionals are aware of these crimes now. There is a lot |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 02:49 PM |
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This man is a capital-F Fucktard |
kiahzero |
May-14-04 11:20 PM |
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Tell ya what, just check out LBN-thousands of US Nazi cases reopened. |
bobthedrummer |
May-14-04 12:10 PM |
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There is no such thing as Satanism in the traditional sense. |
BBradley |
May-13-04 02:28 PM |
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But there was a Church of Satan followed by the Temple of Set |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 02:32 PM |
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The people must see this on demand-it cannot be "classified" any longer |
bobthedrummer |
May-13-04 04:24 PM |
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how can we get law enforcement to do something? |
Alerter_ |
May-13-04 05:21 PM |
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cheney |
friendofbenn |
May-14-04 08:33 AM |
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Jeezuz F. Gump |
jokerman2004 |
May-14-04 09:00 AM |
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"Satanism" |
Alerter_ |
May-14-04 09:31 AM |
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"most people understand that the "Satanism" part is theater" |
beam_me_up |
May-14-04 11:19 AM |
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the NSA specifically? |
Alerter_ |
May-14-04 04:36 PM |
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That's the truth, I've stated that fact and am coming from that |
bobthedrummer |
May-14-04 09:06 PM |
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Right on |
jokerman2004 |
May-15-04 12:00 AM |
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Some Serious NAZI Shit, there, Bob. |
Octafish |
May-14-04 09:14 AM |
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Yep |
jokerman2004 |
May-14-04 09:18 AM |
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The point is that the US Government is ACTING like NAZIs. |
Octafish |
May-14-04 09:27 AM |
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I agree |
jokerman2004 |
May-14-04 09:32 AM |
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Here's another one: "Unholy Alliance" by Peter Levenda |
Minstrel Boy |
May-14-04 09:48 AM |
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This is a good one |
jokerman2004 |
May-14-04 10:35 AM |
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I was born and raised in Milwaukee there is some Nazi support there |
bobthedrummer |
May-14-04 11:44 AM |
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Isn't that clever? |
drfemoe |
May-14-04 10:18 PM |
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Where have we seen this before? What were the results? |
bobthedrummer |
May-14-04 10:49 PM |
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Since the dawn of time |
drfemoe |
May-14-04 11:09 PM |
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Occultism, sex, and mind control are all connected |
starroute |
May-14-04 11:16 AM |
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Ok -- One more time |
jokerman2004 |
May-14-04 12:46 PM |
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The whole secrecy fetish fits in here as well |
starroute |
May-14-04 03:19 PM |
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Defend our Constitution - show the Torture to the State Governors |
Alerter_ |
May-14-04 08:42 PM |
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hey ~ thanks for the clarity |
drfemoe |
May-14-04 11:24 PM |
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The government did ownup to STARGATE, once again DIA and MI |
bobthedrummer |
May-14-04 09:29 PM |
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thanks, I guess, for bringing this up again - esp the NE stuff |
bobbieinok |
May-14-04 01:05 PM |
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I guess I 'll thank you for participating then. |
bobthedrummer |
May-14-04 01:34 PM |
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"satanic ritual abuse" |
slutticus |
May-14-04 03:26 PM |
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Hard to believe anyone would abuse a satanic ritual. |
ArkDem |
May-14-04 04:49 PM |
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have you seen this story,bob I just came across it. |
seemslikeadream |
May-14-04 05:02 PM |
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I think this article is DISINFORMATION |
Alerter_ |
May-14-04 09:30 PM |
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What does MK ULTRA stand for? |
suegeo |
May-14-04 07:09 PM |
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MK is a prefix to denote that the program was under the auspicies of |
Minstrel Boy |
May-14-04 08:54 PM |
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Allen Dulles is linked to so much really evil crap |
starroute |
May-14-04 11:00 PM |
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Question |
undergroundpanther |
May-15-04 12:39 AM |
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"child sex ring" "Omaha" "blackmail the business community" |
Alerter_ |
May-14-04 11:51 PM |
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The truth cannot be supressed by National Security-it is broke now. |
bobthedrummer |
May-16-04 03:06 PM |
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A kick for the uncorrupted law enforcement community that never gives up! |
bobthedrummer |
May-17-04 03:17 PM |
#130 |