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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-04 10:06 PM
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23. I hate to say it ...
Edited on Tue May-11-04 10:10 PM by BattyDem
but I honestly think the military/CIA/government did it. :tinfoilhat:

I really try to avoid putting the tinfoil hat on, but sometimes it can't be avoided. Too many things about this just don't add up. I watched my local news tonight (Fox ... which I normally don't watch, but it came on right after 24) and they said he was an engineer who went to Iraq to look for work and because he wanted to help rebuild the country.

Tell me something ...
Why did the US let him into Iraq in the first place? Is it possible that a person can just go to Iraq on their own and expect to find work and/or help with the rebuilding? That doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't you have to be a part of one of the private contracting firms or some sort of humanitarian organization? European countries can't get rebuilding contracts, why would this guy think he could?

According to the news, he was captured by the Iraqis, but they turned him over to the US. Then the US interrogated him for a few days before letting him go. (I know other reports said he was held by the US for a few weeks, but this report said a few days.) Then ... somehow ... he ended up in the hands of Al Qaida/Islamic extremists. WTF?

Again I ask, why did the US let a lone civilian into Iraq in the first place?

A few more questions ...

- Why did the Iraqi police arrest him?

- Why did they turn him over to the US for interrogation?

- Why did the US interrogate him and not allow him to speak to a lawyer, his family, etc.? Was he suspected of a crime?

- Why did the US simply release him into a war zone without providing him safe transport out of Iraq?

- Why was he in an orange jumpsuit? The news said the "extremists" put him in the jumpsuit because the prisoners at Abu Ghraib were forced to wear those jumpsuits. In all the Abu Ghraib photos I saw, there weren't any orange jumpsuits. Gitmo had them, not Abu Ghraib. Am I wrong? Even if there were jumpsuits, why would the "extremists" bother to put one on him? They never did anything like that before.

- Why has this video surfaced one day after the "Iraqi being threatened with dogs" photo was on the cover of all the US newspapers? His body was found on Saturday, wasn't it? According to the reports from the Red Cross or Amnesty International, the Abu Ghraib abuse has been going on for quite a while and the Iraqis knew ... even if the US public didn't. Why would they wait until now to retalliate by killing Berg?

If any of my information or assumptions are wrong, please enlighten me.

You what bothers me the most? The fact that I have no trouble believing that our government did this ... and that makes me sad, scared and angry! What have we become?

Whatever the truth is, I am so sorry for this man and his family. Nobody deserves to die that way. :(

edited for spelling (note to self: use the damn spellchecker!!!)

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  -Who physically killed Nick Berg? JohnLocke  May-11-04 09:07 PM   #0 
  - Don't know. nt  Wonk   May-11-04 09:08 PM   #1 
  - A fine looking dog.  JohnLocke   May-11-04 09:09 PM   #3 
     - Yes, my current avatar is Buddy, the beagle I just inherited yesterday.  Wonk   May-11-04 09:16 PM   #12 
        - Hi, Buddy.  Eye and Monkey   May-11-04 09:18 PM   #14 
  - Other  freetobegay   May-11-04 09:09 PM   #2 
  - Don't know  Mel   May-11-04 09:10 PM   #4 
  - directly, insurgents in Iraq...  arcos   May-11-04 09:10 PM   #5 
  - Too soon to say  ewagner   May-11-04 09:11 PM   #6 
  - Good advice  JimWar   May-11-04 09:21 PM   #18 
  - Other countries have drilled armies too  muriel_volestrangler   May-12-04 04:58 AM   #30 
  - I wouldn't put it past our military - but we'll never know  goddess40   May-12-04 03:57 PM   #44 
  - Mabus  seventhson   May-11-04 09:12 PM   #7 
  - Other  Walt Starr   May-11-04 09:13 PM   #8 
  - both  Independent429   May-11-04 09:13 PM   #9 
  - Terrorists killed Berg  WorstPresidentEver   May-11-04 09:13 PM   #10 
  - Need more evidence  Az   May-11-04 09:16 PM   #11 
  - for the first time in memory  leftofthedial   May-11-04 09:17 PM   #13 
  - At least five people who've seen it say they regret it  carolinayellowdog   May-11-04 09:25 PM   #19 
  - There's a lengthy "tirade" from the "leader" -- you can stop it  Eloriel   May-14-04 04:28 PM   #58 
  - George W. Bush  bushwakker   May-11-04 09:18 PM   #15 
  - That is what I said: Mabus  seventhson   May-11-04 09:26 PM   #20 
     - I'm really angry tonight  bushwakker   May-11-04 09:29 PM   #21 
  - Parents blame Bush for son's execution  Scurrilous   May-11-04 09:18 PM   #16 
  - Probably another of smirky's re-selection stunts.....  webster_green   May-11-04 09:21 PM   #17 
  - Kick (nt).  JohnLocke   May-11-04 09:52 PM   #22 
  - Kick (nt).  JohnLocke   May-12-04 04:11 PM   #45 
  - I hate to say it ...  BattyDem   May-11-04 10:06 PM   #23 
  - Never before did wear the tinfoil hat, but I'm 100% in agreement with you  Enraged_Ape   May-12-04 07:14 AM   #34 
  - The timing, rhetoric, and rationale for this beheading video ...  TahitiNut   May-12-04 08:28 AM   #36 
  - Probably the best interpretation yet...  nothingshocksmeanymore   May-12-04 04:56 PM   #48 
  - you are on the right track  phoebe   May-14-04 04:00 PM   #57 
  - My observation is about the same concerning the two terrorist  0007   May-16-04 02:13 PM   #62 
  - Thanks, Batty Dem.  LibDemAlways   May-12-04 08:50 AM   # 
  - no one deserved to die this way  tx.lib   May-12-04 03:42 PM   #42 
  - Why are the executioners WHITE and FAT?  bushgottago   May-13-04 08:06 AM   #50 
  - Only about a 3rd said American intel...  Waverley_Hills_Hiker   May-11-04 10:08 PM   #24 
  - True ... but  BattyDem   May-11-04 10:12 PM   #25 
  - And we are better than Saddam Hussein, too.  troublemaker   May-11-04 10:25 PM   #26 
  - Time for the October Surprise  seventhson   May-11-04 11:22 PM   #27 
  - I voted don't know.  Pithlet   May-11-04 11:25 PM   #28 
  - Unsure  knight_of_the_star   May-11-04 11:32 PM   #29 
  - nick berg.  KG   May-12-04 05:14 AM   #31 
  - I can't disagree with that.  OpSomBlood   May-12-04 07:24 AM   #35 
  - Physically killed the guy--Islamic Terrorists--moral responsibility--Bush  bklyncowgirl   May-12-04 06:07 AM   #32 
  - I just viewed the video  Cheesy   May-15-04 02:09 AM   #59 
     - Hi Cheesy!!  newyawker99   May-16-04 01:45 PM   #61 
  - these results surprise me  leftyandproud   May-12-04 07:01 AM   #33 
  - ## Support Democratic Underground! ##  DU GrovelBot   May-12-04 08:50 AM   #37 
  - I would go with "A bunch of sick assholes who hid their faces"  ComerPerro   May-12-04 08:56 AM   #38 
  - Kick (there's a dupe)  Wonk   May-12-04 03:16 PM   #39 
  - Kick n/t  Cuban_Liberal   May-12-04 03:19 PM   #40 
  - kick  Wonk   May-12-04 03:30 PM   #41 
  - Three-way tie...  JohnLocke   May-12-04 03:55 PM   #43 
  - Unsure at this time  bigwillq   May-12-04 04:12 PM   #46 
  - it probably was Al-Zarqawi  evil_orange_cat   May-12-04 04:46 PM   #47 
  - But voice doesn't match him  bushgottago   May-13-04 08:07 AM   #51 
  - Kick (nt).  JohnLocke   May-13-04 08:01 AM   #49 
  - i want to hear from people who believe the gov't did it...  EV1Ltimm   May-13-04 08:21 AM   #52 
  - I don't necesarilly believe it but it sure took the heat off the abuse  spanone   May-14-04 03:40 PM   #56 
  - Who would know?  Aussie_Hillbilly   May-13-04 08:29 AM   #53 
  - It was the people in the black helicopters.  Cuban_Liberal   May-13-04 08:33 AM   #54 
  - LOL (nt).  JohnLocke   May-16-04 12:46 PM   #60 
  - I'm agnostic.  BurtWorm   May-14-04 03:34 PM   #55 

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