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Mon Aug-11-03 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 117. you are fogetting Ecstacy |
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MDMA is basically an LSD knock-off chemically and is a pretty powerful hallucinogen and is of course the current drug of choice. To the point where they recently categorized MDMA in the same way as crack cocaine in terms of sentencing. Having never done MDMA I can't really speak to its effects but I'm told they are pretty similar to LSD, with less of the visual aspect while enhacing the auditory and tactile aspects.
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| -Would the cultural revolution have happened without hallucinogens? |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 01:49 PM |
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No. You are totally correct. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-10-03 01:53 PM |
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in a way.. |
SuffragetteSal |
Aug-10-03 01:59 PM |
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The civil rights movement |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 01:59 PM |
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Is anyone who takes drugs(eg,LSD) self-indulgent? |
edward |
Aug-10-03 02:12 PM |
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If you're not taking drugs |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:33 PM |
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So you could not bear to sit at a dinner table if someone has a glass of w |
edward |
Aug-10-03 02:37 PM |
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don't forget cigarettes |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:47 PM |
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Yes, so how is it a cultural revolution? |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:48 PM |
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Do you consider spirituality to be self indulgent and recreational? |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:38 PM |
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Well since food is a necessity |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:46 PM |
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who said food is a drug? |
edward |
Aug-10-03 02:50 PM |
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You are trying to rationalize drug use |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:55 PM |
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Rationalizing? |
edward |
Aug-10-03 02:59 PM |
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Now you're just |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:04 PM |
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Insults. No thanks. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:07 PM |
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No one is insulting you |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:10 PM |
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Right. And that is not what the person who started this thread was talking |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:15 PM |
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The premise was that |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:21 PM |
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You're just putting words in my mouth. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:24 PM |
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Well perhaps you make |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:26 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-10-03 03:34 PM |
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I have made no insults |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:36 PM |
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Prove to me that drugs can not be used for spirituality. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:51 PM |
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Prove to me that drugs CAN be used for spirituality. |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:57 PM |
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I did not take hallucinogens for the damn hallucinations. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:03 PM |
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Then if you didn't take them for medical purposes |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:08 PM |
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Than you would conclude that religion and spirituality are self indugent? |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:12 PM |
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LOL I said drugs were self-indulgent |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:17 PM |
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Let's be clear here, You are the one that started labeling people |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:20 PM |
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Yes, lets be clear |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:25 PM |
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Real spirituality, or hallucinated delusions of spirituality? |
ForrestGump |
Aug-10-03 03:05 PM |
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Once again, |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:06 PM |
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We also know |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:12 PM |
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Spoken like someone who has no experience with it. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:16 PM |
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Well good, now that YOU are saved |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:19 PM |
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Why do you assume that i don't? |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:24 PM |
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Perhaps you do personally |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:28 PM |
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Give me abreak. Now you have implied it twice. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:32 PM |
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I have implied nothing |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:35 PM |
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Word up Liberal Guerilla. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:37 PM |
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Word. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:38 PM |
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Actually I haven't insulted anyone |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:43 PM |
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The cultural revolution happened in China, not in America |
JVS |
Aug-10-03 02:01 PM |
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Are you saying |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:03 PM |
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Your culture |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:08 PM |
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My culture? |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:21 PM |
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You're the one |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:30 PM |
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Fighting for civil rights |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:33 PM |
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Those struggles were evolutionary in nature not revolutionary |
JVS |
Aug-10-03 02:42 PM |
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I believe you did that already |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:47 PM |
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you... |
deseo |
Aug-10-03 04:36 PM |
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I see no evidence that America experienced any revolution |
JVS |
Aug-10-03 02:20 PM |
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Why keep referring to China? |
edward |
Aug-10-03 02:29 PM |
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Because the thread is about the cultural revolution |
JVS |
Aug-10-03 02:40 PM |
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How many such 'revolutions' do we need, though? |
ForrestGump |
Aug-10-03 03:07 PM |
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Agree. They began in the 40's. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:23 PM |
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That's been a popular sentiment |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:29 PM |
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Your under the belief that a revolution has to be permanent. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:43 PM |
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If it 'ended' |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:57 PM |
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yes sir and no sir |
SuffragetteSal |
Aug-10-03 02:14 PM |
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Really? |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:42 PM |
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That cultural revolution(the 60's) ended in 1980. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 02:48 PM |
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A 'revolution' that produces no change |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:49 PM |
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Are you willfully ignoring all the evidence? |
edward |
Aug-10-03 02:53 PM |
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There is no evidence |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:58 PM |
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are sure we live in the same country? |
G_j |
Aug-10-03 03:29 PM |
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No we don't |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:33 PM |
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I agree with some of what you say. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:56 PM |
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Yes, a bunch of baby-boomers |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:00 PM |
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He(she?) is denying it. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:02 PM |
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Denying a revolution took place? |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:30 PM |
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Isn't it so nice you can be so darn critical |
SuffragetteSal |
Aug-10-03 02:52 PM |
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I said there was no |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:03 PM |
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If you think American culture did not change in the 60's you were not |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:12 PM |
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Obviously, you never had to sit at the back of the bus |
SuffragetteSal |
Aug-10-03 03:14 PM |
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I said at the beginning |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 03:42 PM |
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Agree, but there are plenty of radical youth today |
plurality |
Aug-10-03 02:03 PM |
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Finally a topic I care deeply about! |
edward |
Aug-10-03 02:07 PM |
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I always thought |
HootieMcBoob |
Aug-10-03 02:08 PM |
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reminds me of a tale I'd heard in Hunter S. Thompson book |
plurality |
Aug-10-03 02:13 PM |
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Gracie Slick. |
Mari333 |
Aug-10-03 02:26 PM |
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it reminds me of the movie "Wild in the Streets" |
2cents |
Aug-10-03 02:38 PM |
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There is no evidence anywhere |
Caution |
Aug-10-03 02:17 PM |
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Some points you made i agree with. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:29 PM |
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Timothy Leary |
G_j |
Aug-10-03 02:55 PM |
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you are fogetting Ecstacy |
Caution |
Aug-11-03 06:55 AM |
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You had to live through the 50's |
Mari333 |
Aug-10-03 02:25 PM |
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Would you mind elaborating on that? |
JVS |
Aug-10-03 02:30 PM |
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I feel that we are living through the 50's now. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:30 PM |
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There will be a backlash. History repeats itself, thing go in cycles, |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-10-03 02:36 PM |
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Maybe. But I wonder if this country was ever as right wing as it is today. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 02:41 PM |
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I wonder if this country was ever as right wing as it is today |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 04:09 PM |
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Good point about pentagon. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 04:17 PM |
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Nixon started the war on drugs |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 04:23 PM |
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Nixon thought that the hippies had been infiltrated by communists. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 04:31 PM |
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Will there be a backlash. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 02:41 PM |
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I DID live through |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:51 PM |
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As one who lived through it: |
kcwayne |
Aug-10-03 02:45 PM |
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Being anti-draft |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 02:52 PM |
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I agree with you on most of what you say in this thread |
roughsatori |
Aug-10-03 03:16 PM |
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Confused about your post. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:33 PM |
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I was talking about advertising co-opting the culture |
roughsatori |
Aug-10-03 03:42 PM |
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Relax. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:54 PM |
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Now you tell me to "relax" |
roughsatori |
Aug-10-03 04:17 PM |
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Yes, I am a fascist. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 04:19 PM |
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Did you post a reply to me by mistake? |
roughsatori |
Aug-10-03 04:28 PM |
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You know what I meant. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 04:37 PM |
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Great post KCWAYNE. |
Liberal_Guerilla |
Aug-10-03 03:00 PM |
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yes |
FreeperSlayer |
Aug-10-03 03:05 PM |
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It wasn't the getting high as much as the trip |
Snellius |
Aug-10-03 03:25 PM |
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Didn't the African American movement start in the 1950s? |
HypnoToad |
Aug-10-03 03:39 PM |
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The hippies were not really a majority. |
edward |
Aug-10-03 03:49 PM |
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It was the BEATLES! |
spooked |
Aug-10-03 03:41 PM |
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For the same reason |
Maple |
Aug-10-03 04:02 PM |
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The Revolution of the Beatles made them rich |
roughsatori |
Aug-10-03 04:25 PM |
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They helped to make the same revolution everyone else went through |
Terwilliger |
Aug-10-03 04:39 PM |
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Hmmm |
Terwilliger |
Aug-10-03 04:34 PM |
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