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Sun Apr-25-04 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #43 |
| 47. I don't think I'm right in the middle, I think I'm in the left of center |
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I consider people like John Breaux, or Lincoln Chafee, or Jesse Ventura, to be real centrists. I'm just not confinded to party mindedness. I see that polarization just leads to so much PROGRESS not getting done. I can go issue by issue with you if you want. I'm solidly on the left on issues like gun control, seperation of church and state, I think that the estate tax should not only be protected at what it was at the beginning of the Clinton administration it should be increased beyond that.
I pretty consistently agree with the Sierra Club and League of conservation voters.
But alot of the anti-moderate people seem to be obsessed with a regurgition of propaganda dealing mostly with foreign policy, that would barely fit the views of even the most left of left elected democrats in this country, including being more out there than the most partisan members of the progressive caucus. I blame the counterpunches and whatreallyhappened.com's of the net and some of the more motivated Stalinist-type organizations such as internationalanswer for this radicalization/stupification of much of the left.
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| -Christopher Hitchens is such an asshole, a lying pompous fuck... |
Zinfandel |
Apr-25-04 02:05 PM |
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I'm thinking his, um, "robust" alcohol use may have clouded his thinking. |
terrya |
Apr-25-04 02:09 PM |
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Would you say the same thing, when he was the # 1 Clinton hater & attacker |
Zinfandel |
Apr-25-04 02:16 PM |
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Hitchens cares about one thing... |
durutti |
Apr-25-04 08:58 PM |
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It amazes me how easily "liberals" adopt the same personal attacks that |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 02:17 PM |
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He quit working for the Nation magazine in a well publicized split.. |
terrya |
Apr-25-04 02:26 PM |
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yeah, he's basically a good egg |
thebigidea |
Apr-25-04 02:30 PM |
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Hitchens hates the religious. He wrote a book bashing Mother Theresa |
Joanne98 |
Apr-25-04 03:07 PM |
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He has all but endorsed Bush |
ludwigb |
Apr-25-04 03:02 PM |
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Bombtrack, I agree. In his opposition to religion inspired |
Veggie Meathead |
Apr-25-04 07:44 PM |
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He started as a Clinton hater - still had a following around here |
robbedvoter |
Apr-25-04 02:19 PM |
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Scheer always "kicks ass"! KKKristipher "Hitler" Hitchens..... |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Apr-25-04 02:12 PM |
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How, when did he lie. |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 02:13 PM |
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Hitchens is scum. He hated Clinton because he was.... |
PROGRESSIVE1 |
Apr-25-04 02:16 PM |
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He hated Clinton because of alot of reasons |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 02:24 PM |
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I saw Hitchens on Canadian TV, bleary-eyed with a glass of liquor he kept |
glarius |
Apr-25-04 02:39 PM |
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did you even watch the debate? He called his opponents FOOLS! |
thebigidea |
Apr-25-04 02:42 PM |
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Your belief that anyone who believes in a foreign policy towards |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 02:55 PM |
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...who believes in a NEOCONSERVATIVE foreign policy, mind you |
thebigidea |
Apr-25-04 02:58 PM |
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The neocon policy in Afghanistan |
fujiyama |
Apr-25-04 08:57 PM |
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He probably hated Clinton so much because |
smirkymonkey |
Apr-26-04 12:14 AM |
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Kosovo was a criminal action |
Vladimir |
Apr-26-04 07:45 AM |
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yes, nothing more respectable than chanting "pathetic" |
thebigidea |
Apr-25-04 02:17 PM |
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Pay fucking attention...Do you have a pulse? |
Zinfandel |
Apr-25-04 02:19 PM |
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That's rather rude! Now you can go off on me but as for |
k in IA |
Apr-25-04 02:26 PM |
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What about Henry Kissenger? Are you on his side? |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 02:29 PM |
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No, I'm not on Kissenger's side. I don't know where your "once |
k in IA |
Apr-25-04 02:35 PM |
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two words: minty breath. |
thebigidea |
Apr-25-04 02:36 PM |
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He's a really good, smart, writer. And I don't just read people I agree |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 02:47 PM |
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I've always liked him and his work... |
Michael Harrington |
Apr-26-04 02:41 AM |
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If Hitchens truly despises |
fujiyama |
Apr-25-04 09:02 PM |
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wow, what a considerate open minded and helpful response |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 02:26 PM |
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Define "you people" ? |
k in IA |
Apr-25-04 02:27 PM |
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You People?? |
uhhuh |
Apr-25-04 02:32 PM |
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The extreme contingent here. Sorry I don't want to piss off people who |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 02:40 PM |
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what a confusing argument... not liking Hitchens is anti-moderate? |
thebigidea |
Apr-25-04 02:43 PM |
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No, why don't you read what I was responding to |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 02:49 PM |
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because nothing says intelligent debate quite like "you people," huh? |
thebigidea |
Apr-25-04 02:50 PM |
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I'm not part of the "extreme contingent" - probably a fiscal |
k in IA |
Apr-25-04 02:51 PM |
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I agree with you that he goes overboard in his critisms of war-opponents |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 03:02 PM |
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Well said |
ludwigb |
Apr-25-04 03:05 PM |
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But people like Scheer and Michael Moore aren't mean spirited |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 03:14 PM |
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Please say "some people" instead of "you people" otherwise |
k in IA |
Apr-25-04 03:21 PM |
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point taken |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 03:51 PM |
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I think all people on all sides weaken their arguments and credibility |
k in IA |
Apr-25-04 03:31 PM |
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pardon us if we don't think Neoconservatism is fine and dandy |
thebigidea |
Apr-25-04 04:08 PM |
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when did he lie.... |
dennis4868 |
Apr-25-04 03:05 PM |
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You know like horowitz he is an ex trotskyist |
Christ was Socialist |
Apr-25-04 02:33 PM |
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i second that!!! hitchens is a lying, pompous, f**king a**hole!!! n/t |
Paradise |
Apr-25-04 02:38 PM |
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me too.... |
scarface2004 |
Apr-25-04 10:23 PM |
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True enough, but what do you think of him personally? |
rock |
Apr-25-04 02:48 PM |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again |
Parrcrow |
Apr-25-04 03:20 PM |
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When will this be on again? |
JHBowden |
Apr-25-04 03:27 PM |
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I think you all are missing "Bombtrack" real mission, and the predicament |
Zinfandel |
Apr-25-04 03:42 PM |
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That's pretty extreme. |
JHBowden |
Apr-25-04 03:51 PM |
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I'm sorry, as I stated I do generalize... |
Zinfandel |
Apr-25-04 03:59 PM |
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why not? because they are your family, is mel gibson's dad |
Christ was Socialist |
Apr-25-04 04:06 PM |
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I don't think I'm right in the middle, I think I'm in the left of center |
Bombtrack |
Apr-25-04 04:01 PM |
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That sounds like the black and white world of Shrub. Either with me |
k in IA |
Apr-25-04 04:03 PM |
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Yes, indeed, there are no gray areas in my life...and I'm a bigot, but |
Zinfandel |
Apr-25-04 04:12 PM |
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Ever since I've been aware of him... |
brook |
Apr-25-04 09:51 PM |
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Ask Sidney Blumenthal about ole Hitch. Remember when |
demgrrrll |
Apr-26-04 01:08 AM |
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AUDIO CLIP of a Scheer response and his closing from the debate |
krkaufman |
Apr-26-04 02:59 AM |
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I watched it on repeat yesterday. I am listening to it again. Thanks. n/t |
LittleApple81 |
Apr-26-04 08:30 AM |
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Hitchens will do anything to suck up to the Religious Right |
AngryAmish |
Apr-26-04 08:12 AM |
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