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Muddleoftheroad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-04 04:49 PM
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Why do they have to do these things? Perhaps they have disliked HIS public position more.

Why do they have to rank abortion, death penalty, Iraq and other things the same?

Again, many organizations are reluctant to fight a large group, so they pick one or a few individuals as targets because of their public stature. Ask Marth Stewart about that.
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  -Withholding communion from politicians who support death penalty? cheezus  Apr-23-04 03:54 PM   #0 
  - Just as wrong and possibly bad for the church as the threat against Kerry  kiahzero   Apr-23-04 03:55 PM   #1 
  - let's hope so.  sus   Apr-23-04 03:56 PM   #4 
     - Why?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:07 PM   #14 
        - Yes, absolutely...  w13rd0   Apr-23-04 04:12 PM   #15 
           - There is EVERY reason they should be tax exempt  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:16 PM   #18 
              - Their Enforcement Of Their OWN Positions Is Entirely Arbitrary  cryingshame   Apr-23-04 04:25 PM   #29 
              - On church dogma I thought the pope was infallible  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:27 PM   #31 
                 - Arbitrary In That Only Kerry Has Been Singled Out For Being Pro-Abortion  cryingshame   Apr-23-04 04:43 PM   #42 
                    - Why?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:49 PM   # 
                       - Any Church's Tax Exempt Status Is NOT Inviolate  cryingshame   Apr-23-04 08:59 PM   #52 
                          - They have crossed no constitutional line  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 10:31 PM   #59 
              - right. so why is there a law exempting them from taxes?  cheezus   Apr-23-04 04:38 PM   #39 
              - The reverse  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:39 PM   #40 
                 - oh, so I can claim to be a church  cheezus   Apr-23-04 04:46 PM   #43 
                    - It's not quite that easy  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:50 PM   #47 
              - They should lose their tax exempt status.  LawStudentMom   Apr-23-04 10:13 PM   #57 
  - "anyone who doesn't accept jesus won't be saved"  stopthegop   Apr-23-04 03:55 PM   #2 
  - To wit, the only religions with that concept are:  kiahzero   Apr-23-04 03:58 PM   #6 
  - yeah, but the fundies actually BELIEVE it  cheezus   Apr-23-04 04:06 PM   #12 
     - only if they belive the words of Jesus from the Bible. eom  stopthegop   Apr-23-04 04:13 PM   #16 
  - Death penalty is a guy thing. Abortion is a gal thing.  Cleita   Apr-23-04 03:56 PM   #3 
  - the catholics are consistant on this tho  cheezus   Apr-23-04 04:07 PM   #13 
     - Catholics have no problem killing a lot of things.  Cleita   Apr-23-04 08:41 PM   #51 
  - I propose the elimination of tax exempt status for any religious  lastknowngood   Apr-23-04 03:58 PM   #5 
  - Just for them saying this about Kerry...  GainesT1958   Apr-23-04 04:03 PM   #9 
  - Everything is political  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:06 PM   #11 
  - I think that Kerry needs to take several issues head-on.  LawStudentMom   Apr-23-04 03:58 PM   #7 
  - O'Connor did this in 1984...  GainesT1958   Apr-23-04 04:00 PM   #8 
  - Congress shall make NO law  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:05 PM   #10 
  - We're thankful you are here to give us...  w13rd0   Apr-23-04 04:15 PM   #17 
  - It is not politics to expect public figures in the church to obey  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:18 PM   #20 
     - Not when the "principles" are applied unfairly for clearly partisan...  w13rd0   Apr-23-04 04:22 PM   # 
     - "Get the fuck out" of where?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:24 PM   #27 
     - It IS Politics When The Church Singles Out A DEMOCRAT To Punish  cryingshame   Apr-23-04 09:03 PM   #53 
     - It becomes politics when they pick and choose  Pithlet   Apr-23-04 09:15 PM   #56 
        - They pick and choose issues as is their right  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 10:55 PM   #63 
  - Churches weren't..  girl gone mad   Apr-23-04 04:17 PM   #19 
  - They are now  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:18 PM   #21 
     - nobody is targeting the church. tax exempt status is a civil issue  cheezus   Apr-23-04 04:42 PM   #41 
        - No, it's a constitutional issue  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:51 PM   #48 
  - That is side-stepping the issue..which is hypocrasy  wuushew   Apr-23-04 04:18 PM   #22 
  - There is no law against hypocrisy  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:20 PM   #24 
  - Fine  kiahzero   Apr-23-04 04:19 PM   #23 
     - Good luck on that one  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:22 PM   #25 
        - The leadership of the Methodist church, of which....  w13rd0   Apr-23-04 04:26 PM   #30 
        - Hell, I'm not even Catholic  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:28 PM   #33 
        - There's little point in arguing that the law should be followed?  kiahzero   Apr-23-04 04:35 PM   #37 
           - It's a religious decision  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:38 PM   #38 
              - Well, There Are Republican Public Figures Who Also Represent  cryingshame   Apr-23-04 09:06 PM   #54 
                 - No, they singled out one person  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 10:49 PM   #60 
  - Didn't the Pope condemn the war in Iraq?  Supormom   Apr-23-04 04:23 PM   #26 
  - A bunch  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:25 PM   #28 
  - Muddleoftheroad -- take a Constitutional Law class!  LawStudentMom   Apr-23-04 10:21 PM   #58 
     - LOL  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 10:54 PM   #62 
  - Isn't that vile puke Santorum the dog-fucker...  w13rd0   Apr-23-04 04:27 PM   #32 
     - Isn't that up to the church, not you?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:29 PM   #34 
     - done with your reasoned commentary for the week are we?eom  stopthegop   Apr-23-04 04:48 PM   #45 
  - This is the same Catholic Church that forced Fr. Drinan out of Congress  KamaAina   Apr-23-04 04:31 PM   #35 
  - Is abortion politics or belief?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:33 PM   #36 
     - If it were a matter of belief rather than politics...  KamaAina   Apr-23-04 04:47 PM   #44 
        - Are you the pope? A cardinal perhaps?  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 04:53 PM   #49 
           - I'm not even Catholic any longer. This helps to explain why.  KamaAina   Apr-23-04 06:17 PM   #50 
           - Well, There Are Well Known Pro-Abortion Republican Politicians  cryingshame   Apr-23-04 09:09 PM   #55 
              - Those well known pro-Choice politicians  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-23-04 10:51 PM   #61 
  - I like the idea  Lefty48197   Apr-23-04 04:49 PM   #46 

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