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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 08:02 PM
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12. Absolutely, there are plenty of models to go by, quinnox
We don't even have to reinvent the wheel. :)

Have you, by any chance, read Dennis Kucinich's proposal on Universal single payer health care? He covers this pretty well. I wrote a Resolution for my caucus that opened people's eyes. Most US citizens really don't realize what it is we're paying for, and what the rest of the world does.

For instance, the US pays more for health care than any other nation, yet ranks 37th (WHO) in health standards. Now, that's pretty pathetic. That's what for-profit health "care" does.

I really think that if people were actually shown the facts, and what we COULD have, they would rise up and fight for it. We've been sold a billl of goods. To our own detriment.

Kanary
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  -National Health Care - Copays/Deductibles vs 100% covered familydoctor  Apr-15-04 07:10 PM   #0 
  - I suppose that if we, as a nation, can go....  Radicalliberal   Apr-15-04 07:22 PM   #1 
  - I hafta vote for copays....  deseo   Apr-15-04 07:27 PM   #2 
  - If your doc sees it all the time now...  davekriss   Apr-15-04 08:04 PM   #14 
  - Nice try...  deseo   Apr-15-04 08:50 PM   #23 
     - Have a link?  davekriss   Apr-15-04 08:55 PM   #25 
        - Yeah, just link to my office....  familydoctor   Apr-15-04 09:05 PM   #26 
           - Compelling argument  davekriss   Apr-15-04 09:10 PM   #30 
              - doctors are as much to blame (with the help of lawyers....)  familydoctor   Apr-15-04 10:33 PM   #38 
  - I think doctors encourage this.  Cleita   Apr-15-04 09:06 PM   #27 
     - deleted by familydoctor...  familydoctor   Apr-15-04 10:37 PM   #40 
     - There are many good and accurate observations in your post.  familydoctor   Apr-16-04 08:11 AM   #44 
  - 100% coverage  BattyDem   Apr-15-04 07:37 PM   #3 
  - Bump  familydoctor   Apr-15-04 07:37 PM   #4 
  - Full coverage with caveats  quinnox   Apr-15-04 07:41 PM   #5 
  - Actually, quinnox, there may not be need for more taxes  Kanary   Apr-15-04 07:48 PM   #6 
  - Maybe so  quinnox   Apr-15-04 07:53 PM   #8 
     - Absolutely, there are plenty of models to go by, quinnox  Kanary   Apr-15-04 08:02 PM   #12 
        - No, I haven't but  quinnox   Apr-15-04 08:06 PM   #16 
           - Insurance is "socialism", too  Kanary   Apr-15-04 08:13 PM   #18 
  - sometimes plastic surgery is i think nesscary in case of  corporatewhore   Apr-15-04 07:57 PM   #10 
  - That's true, in those cases  quinnox   Apr-15-04 08:02 PM   #13 
  - You're absolutely correct!  Kanary   Apr-15-04 08:05 PM   #15 
  - Not necessarily  davekriss   Apr-15-04 08:18 PM   #20 
     - The key word is "collectively", davekriss  Kanary   Apr-15-04 09:55 PM   #35 
  - I said 100%.....  Tripper11   Apr-15-04 07:50 PM   #7 
  - i went to the docs today i showed them my military id they let me in  corporatewhore   Apr-15-04 07:54 PM   #9 
  - As much as I would like to see 100% coverage all the time  bleedingheart   Apr-15-04 07:59 PM   #11 
  - Why would other countries not have the problem, then?  Kanary   Apr-15-04 08:11 PM   #17 
  - Actually, Japan applies a form of copayment by the patient...  familydoctor   Apr-15-04 09:07 PM   #28 
  - Abuse is in the eye of the not-beholder  politicat   Apr-15-04 08:31 PM   #21 
     - I think you hit the target, politicat!  Kanary   Apr-15-04 08:48 PM   #22 
  - Actually, familydoctor  Kanary   Apr-15-04 08:17 PM   #19 
  - Yeah, it's the bane of my life....  familydoctor   Apr-15-04 09:08 PM   #29 
     - I understand that. But... wouldn't getting rid of the whole copay system  Kanary   Apr-15-04 09:30 PM   #32 
        - Yes and no....  familydoctor   Apr-15-04 10:29 PM   #37 
           - They will turn any workable system into garbage.  Cleita   Apr-15-04 10:35 PM   #39 
  - More money wasted in processing copays than they recover  eridani   Apr-15-04 08:53 PM   #24 
  - I would rather we had our health card that we showed to get  Cleita   Apr-15-04 09:27 PM   #31 
  - 100% covered  GreenArrow   Apr-15-04 09:30 PM   #33 
  - can reasons for co-payment and 100% cover  Djinn   Apr-15-04 09:43 PM   #34 
  - I think it's an empirical question.  Jackpine Radical   Apr-15-04 10:20 PM   #36 
  - In a perfect world,  SoCalDem   Apr-15-04 10:38 PM   #41 
  - Kick  Cleita   Apr-15-04 11:59 PM   #42 
  - Leaning toward co-pays, but. . .  shimmergal   Apr-16-04 12:52 AM   #43 
 

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