derby378
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Thu Apr-15-04 05:08 PM
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I view the Alamo is a memorial not just for the Texan and Tejano dead, but for the Mexican dead. Three Mexican soldiers died for every one Alamo defender - it was a very brutal battle.
Texans view the Alamo in roughly the same way Australians view Gallipoli - "we" got our butts kicked, but it was seen as a grueling stand against an overwhelming force.
A monument to racism? Please. I know about Texas' desire to legalize slavery helped motivate its push for independence, but this is too much.
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| -SF Chronicle: F*ck the Alamo, a racist symbol like the Confederate flag |
KleverKittie |
Apr-15-04 04:55 PM |
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I was just there |
WoodrowFan |
Apr-15-04 05:00 PM |
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Current Alamo doesn't do a good job of |
Yupster |
Apr-15-04 08:10 PM |
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I saw that |
WoodrowFan |
Apr-16-04 03:30 PM |
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I'm a true Texan |
Florida_Geek |
Apr-15-04 05:03 PM |
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are YOU the one who started with the Condi thing there? |
buycitgo |
Apr-15-04 05:13 PM |
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that was me, |
Florida_Geek |
Apr-15-04 05:29 PM |
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I'm a true Texan too, and I don't |
leftistagitator |
Apr-15-04 05:14 PM |
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Interesting |
EstimatedProphet |
Apr-15-04 05:22 PM |
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Santa Anna was a bastard |
leftistagitator |
Apr-15-04 05:29 PM |
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You can't be that ignorant of your own history. |
Goldust |
Apr-16-04 04:10 PM |
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Yeah, we were all about brotherhood with the Tejano people |
leftistagitator |
Apr-16-04 04:27 PM |
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Santa Anna was a corrupt and inept politician |
Sandpiper |
Apr-15-04 05:43 PM |
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I don't know if "largely" is applicable |
Maestro |
Apr-15-04 06:17 PM |
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No, it was abolished first in Mexico in 1829 |
Sandpiper |
Apr-15-04 06:27 PM |
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Interesting but I still thought it was earlier |
Maestro |
Apr-15-04 11:59 PM |
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Padre Hidalgo abolished slavery in 1810. |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-15-04 06:46 PM |
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Should have looked here first |
Maestro |
Apr-16-04 12:01 AM |
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Slavery was abolished in Mexico long before 1810 |
augie38 |
Apr-16-04 05:31 PM |
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Not quite |
leftistagitator |
Apr-16-04 07:35 PM |
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well of course-- it's easier on the consience |
SemperEadem |
Apr-16-04 05:39 PM |
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You're exactly right |
Lindacooks |
Apr-16-04 04:17 PM |
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The bravery of those who fought at the Alamo |
9215 |
Apr-16-04 03:22 PM |
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Agreed. Got the Rebel Flag Removed |
UTUSN |
Apr-15-04 05:07 PM |
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Them's fightin' words |
derby378 |
Apr-15-04 05:08 PM |
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Actually |
atreides1 |
Apr-15-04 05:54 PM |
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History defined as absolute.... |
rlpincus |
Apr-15-04 05:16 PM |
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Shrubito is not a Texan |
texastoast |
Apr-15-04 06:40 PM |
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Actually |
Maestro |
Apr-15-04 05:26 PM |
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Thanks.... |
No2W2004 |
Apr-15-04 06:38 PM |
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No problem |
Maestro |
Apr-16-04 12:08 AM |
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San Antonio was tri-lingual for a long time. |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-15-04 06:51 PM |
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Yeah, he can sure butcher that Spanish |
Maestro |
Apr-16-04 12:06 AM |
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This Review Has A Better Grasp Of The Film |
FreedomReload |
Apr-15-04 05:47 PM |
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thanks...the similarities to iraq are noteworthy |
noiretblu |
Apr-15-04 06:03 PM |
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Hey Rlpincus |
SilasSoule |
Apr-15-04 06:02 PM |
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*gasp* you can't diss the Alamo! |
slinkerwink |
Apr-15-04 06:22 PM |
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Alamo is like The Passion. |
DrWeird |
Apr-15-04 06:25 PM |
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Hmm |
texastoast |
Apr-15-04 06:38 PM |
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I've never heard that one before. |
TexasMexican |
Apr-15-04 07:11 PM |
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What are you smokin? |
Maestro |
Apr-16-04 12:10 AM |
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The Alamo = A Mexican Victory |
TexasMexican |
Apr-15-04 07:04 PM |
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La Reconquista |
Maestro |
Apr-16-04 12:10 AM |
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Right You Are! |
texastoast |
Apr-16-04 02:12 PM |
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BTW I hear the fake Alamo seems more authentic than the real one. |
TexasMexican |
Apr-15-04 07:06 PM |
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Why go see a movie where the good guys lose? |
AskAlice |
Apr-16-04 12:10 AM |
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Because |
Maestro |
Apr-16-04 12:13 AM |
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Yup, San Jacinto. |
Shakespeare |
Apr-16-04 03:50 PM |
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Phew thanks. |
Maestro |
Apr-16-04 04:30 PM |
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Nope, it makes no sense |
NickB79 |
Apr-16-04 03:36 PM |
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didn't Ozzy pee on the Alamo ? |
proud patriot |
Apr-16-04 12:11 AM |
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Yeah |
Maestro |
Apr-16-04 12:18 AM |
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I thought.... |
DoNotRefill |
Apr-16-04 12:14 AM |
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No that is not wrong. |
Maestro |
Apr-16-04 12:16 AM |
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Mexicans HATE Santa Anna |
Goldust |
Apr-16-04 04:07 PM |
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sounds a lot like IRAQ, from the ugly american perspective, of course |
noiretblu |
Apr-16-04 04:19 PM |
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The bravery of the defenders of the Alamo |
9215 |
Apr-16-04 05:11 PM |
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And the "private" joke after the election, was meeting in the Alamo Room. |
Tellurian |
Apr-16-04 05:29 PM |
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