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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:44 PM
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50. The BEST way to distinguish ourselves from the dittoheads....
Th1onein wrote: "Bullshit. I think that we first have to ask, "Even if it IS true, does it matter?" Otherwise, we are wasting our time."

Uh? The question is WHETHER it's true. You have in past posts supported the claim it is. Please focus.

"And this has a LOT to do with the attitude that we have to show "proof" for everything, even when the proof is evident for everyone to see."

I prefer my opinions to be based in fact. If you choose a different standard... please just come right out and say so. If something were REALLY self-evident... I would not be asking for proof of someone's claims.

"Condi's assessment of the Aug. 6 PDB and your call for "proof" are prime examples of this attitude."

I think you're trying to borrow credibility from the PDB issue because you can't demonstrate any on the matter of whether Bush had an earpiece.

"Why bother ourselves getting the "proof" no one but you is demanding, when the issue might be moot, to begin with?"

Is having a SOLID basis for an opinion now a crime at DU?

"And, by the way, your inference that anyone doesn't agree with you is a leftist dittohead is also typical of right-wing tactics; vis a vis if your not for the war in Iraq, then you're not a patriot."

Irrationality knows no political boundaries. The Right has no monopoly on it nor is the Left immune.

My point here and in other threads is that if the Left is to distinguish itself from the mindless dittoheads of the Right... then the BEST way to do so is to ensure our beliefs have a solid base in rationality and fact. Unfortunately this inherently desirable quality is not self-evident to all.




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  -BUSH'S EARPIECE: Looking for proof ulTRAX  Apr-14-04 12:23 PM   #0 
  - It definitely was there.  Another Bill C.   Apr-14-04 12:25 PM   #1 
  - your source.... video or photo?  ulTRAX   Apr-14-04 12:39 PM   #9 
  - CSPAN  toska   Apr-14-04 02:06 PM   #12 
  - That was his gum. He likes to recycle. : )  MUAD_DIB   Apr-15-04 11:06 AM   #37 
  - you didn't see it so it must be there?  WorstPresidentEver   Apr-15-04 10:05 AM   #24 
  - I think he's got a USB port on the back of his neck.  parasim   Apr-14-04 12:28 PM   #2 
  - Wasn't Rove sitting out front?  Snow   Apr-14-04 12:29 PM   #3 
  - I'm betting it's Karen Hughes  Stephanie   Apr-14-04 02:08 PM   #13 
  - cheney was in the back of the room with a joystick controller  leftofthedial   Apr-14-04 02:26 PM   #17 
  - Why doesn't a journalist do their job and officially ask the WH or Junior?  dArKeR   Apr-14-04 12:31 PM   #4 
  - That'll be the day  nym102   Apr-14-04 12:35 PM   #7 
  - google bush earpiece DU  rainy   Apr-14-04 12:32 PM   #5 
  - and this is proof of what?????????  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 09:56 AM   #22 
  - "I'm sure something will pop into my head....."  BlueEyedSon   Apr-14-04 12:34 PM   #6 
  - that line was all the proof my mind needed.  stinkeefresh   Apr-14-04 12:40 PM   #10 
  - the earpiece is simply routine for ANY on-camera speaker  librechik   Apr-14-04 12:36 PM   #8 
  - An Absurd Asinuation: President Bush's Earpiece  BlueEyedSon   Apr-14-04 12:42 PM   #11 
  - If that wasn't an earpiece  BrotherBuzz   Apr-14-04 02:17 PM   #14 
  - It was not an earpiece... ever heard of hypersonic technology??  arcos   Apr-14-04 02:25 PM   #15 
  - Maybe he got visited by the tooth-fairy? - (NOT kidding)  ConcernedCanuk   Apr-15-04 11:07 AM   #38 
  - AGREE! It would be totally undetectable  kittykitty   Apr-15-04 06:03 PM   #68 
  - Except you wouldn't want the sound of ice cubes clinking near Chimp-boy  bif   Apr-15-04 12:36 PM   #48 
  - The reason why I reacted so negatively...  Selwynn   Apr-14-04 02:26 PM   #16 
  - conclusions should be based on evidnece  ulTRAX   Apr-14-04 06:45 PM   #18 
  - It's probably similar to this one  SoCalDem   Apr-15-04 04:38 AM   #19 
  - just because there are small earpieces doesn't mean.....  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 09:45 AM   #20 
     - Next tiime he invites me to lunch, I'll ask him...Ok??  SoCalDem   Apr-15-04 09:51 AM   #21 
     - I think you're wrong.  Th1onein   Apr-15-04 10:19 AM   #28 
        - what I'm asking is simply SHOW EVIDENCE!!!  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 10:37 AM   #31 
           - Bullshit.  Th1onein   Apr-15-04 10:53 AM   #33 
              - The BEST way to distinguish ourselves from the dittoheads....  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 12:44 PM   #50 
                 - YOU ARE MISSING THE ENTIRE POINT  Th1onein   Apr-15-04 04:09 PM   #63 
  - 12 Posts and Not One Shred of Evidence?  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 10:02 AM   #23 
  - Who ARE you?? The ear-police??  SoCalDem   Apr-15-04 10:07 AM   #25 
  - did it EVER occur to you that I may just want some proof?  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 10:18 AM   #27 
  - proof??  SoCalDem   Apr-15-04 10:45 AM   #32 
  - I haven't watched the press conferences...conference...lately  Wendigo   Apr-15-04 12:01 PM   #44 
  - So what?  Screaming Lord Byron   Apr-15-04 10:16 AM   #26 
  - a suspicion is one thing.... in which case.....  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 10:28 AM   #29 
     - I'm still not sure why you're bothered by this.  Screaming Lord Byron   Apr-15-04 10:36 AM   #30 
  - Cool yer heels ULtrax ...  Trajan   Apr-15-04 11:19 AM   #41 
     - cool YOUR heels traJAN  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 12:51 PM   #51 
        - Nonsense ...  Trajan   Apr-15-04 12:58 PM   #52 
           - I have no idea WTF you're talking about  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 02:20 PM   #57 
              - You might want to check  PaDUer   Apr-15-04 03:00 PM   #61 
  - Proof that he uses them . . .  TeeYiYi   Apr-15-04 10:58 AM   #34 
  - not relevant  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 11:10 AM   #40 
     - C'mon, man.  leanings   Apr-15-04 12:12 PM   #45 
        - if true......  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 12:31 PM   #47 
  - Like father like son . . .  TeeYiYi   Apr-15-04 11:01 AM   #35 
  - What's REALLY in junior's ear . . .  TeeYiYi   Apr-15-04 11:04 AM   #36 
  - soft playing cult like chant  seabeyond   Apr-15-04 11:09 AM   #39 
  - What is that thing?  ramblin_dave   Apr-15-04 11:24 AM   #42 
  - April 5th 2004...NC "earpiece"  ElsewheresDaughter   Apr-15-04 11:48 AM   #43 
  - thanks for that  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 12:28 PM   #46 
  - Ear Detail  go fish   Apr-15-04 01:52 PM   #54 
     - try again  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 02:21 PM   #58 
  - I've been seeing Blah3 used as a reference here lately.  americanstranger   Apr-15-04 12:40 PM   #49 
  - WHOOP! There it is!! WHOOP! There it is!!  VolcanoJen   Apr-15-04 06:47 PM   #73 
  - Here's an actual pic of Bush's earpiece.  elvisbear   Apr-15-04 01:05 PM   #53 
  - someone already posted that pic  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 02:23 PM   #59 
  - Well, it could be a hearing aid, y'know  Love Bug   Apr-15-04 01:56 PM   #55 
  - Come on gals and guys,  FlaGranny   Apr-15-04 02:07 PM   #56 
  - He sounded too retarded to have someone actually  Ilsa   Apr-15-04 02:36 PM   #60 
  - Bush used the word "stovepipe"  HamdenRice   Apr-15-04 03:15 PM   #62 
  - Congrats on your first post, Hamden! And WELCOME to DU!!  VolcanoJen   Apr-15-04 06:49 PM   #74 
  - I watched and it certainly looked like he had an earpiece in left ear.  spanone   Apr-15-04 04:15 PM   #64 
  - There was NO Earpiece  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 05:34 PM   #65 
  - OK, nsow are we done with this red hot issue?  thebaghwan   Apr-15-04 05:46 PM   #67 
     - feel free to also harass this "earpiece" thread.........  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 06:04 PM   #69 
  - No 'proof', but here's an opinion from a film director . . .  webtrainer   Apr-15-04 05:46 PM   #66 
     - that's circumstantial evidence at best...  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 06:07 PM   #70 
        - Who peed in your Wheaties this morning?  Caliphoto   Apr-15-04 06:19 PM   #71 
           - have a problem with elevating the debate to deal with facts?  ulTRAX   Apr-15-04 06:45 PM   #72 
 

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