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Thu Apr-08-04 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #167 |
| 169. What? Like Prenatal And Post-Natal Care |
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for those women who would otherwise be unable to provide? Or trojan-horse legislation leading the way to a total ban on abortions?
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| -Pro Choice / Pro Life and the loss of the Democratic majority. |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 08:22 PM |
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I am pro-choice |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 08:25 PM |
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Your post contradicts itself |
kiahzero |
Apr-07-04 08:30 PM |
#3 |
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I'm assuming that |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 08:33 PM |
#5 |
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There's no logical way to demonstrate that |
kiahzero |
Apr-07-04 08:48 PM |
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Sigh. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 08:53 PM |
#9 |
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I answered that question |
kiahzero |
Apr-07-04 09:03 PM |
#11 |
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OK. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 09:43 PM |
#14 |
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Right |
kiahzero |
Apr-07-04 09:51 PM |
#19 |
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You don't spend a lot of time looking at the opposing view |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:45 PM |
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Document, Please |
REP |
Apr-07-04 10:14 PM |
#24 |
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My nephew and nieces were born at age 23 weeks |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 10:16 PM |
#25 |
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No |
REP |
Apr-07-04 10:23 PM |
#28 |
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hardly |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 10:26 PM |
#30 |
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In Other Words, You Can't Back Your Assertion |
REP |
Apr-07-04 10:28 PM |
#32 |
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what more wouild you like |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 10:31 PM |
#34 |
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See my #35 for a citation (Guiness book) |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 10:33 PM |
#37 |
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hey, my daughters bday is 2/2/91... small world... nt |
zwade |
Apr-07-04 11:04 PM |
#47 |
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cool. but I do feel sorry for you |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 11:08 PM |
#48 |
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ha ha! it is rough :) .. my hair is mostly gone... |
zwade |
Apr-07-04 11:16 PM |
#51 |
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Oh yes |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 11:20 PM |
#52 |
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Ok... will this do? |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 10:33 PM |
#35 |
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Several cases of well before 24 weeks have been linked to |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 10:43 PM |
#40 |
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Ding! Ding! Give the ladie a Kewpie doll! |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 10:50 PM |
#43 |
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Here is one small example |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 11:24 PM |
#54 |
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I actually know.... |
Heyo |
Apr-08-04 03:58 PM |
#108 |
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Right. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 10:19 PM |
#26 |
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No They Haven't |
REP |
Apr-07-04 10:24 PM |
#29 |
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Link |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 10:29 PM |
#33 |
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Oh wonder what the person will say now |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 10:33 PM |
#36 |
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Another one |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 10:35 PM |
#38 |
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A correction on your math |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 10:47 PM |
#41 |
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Thanks for clarifying. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 10:53 PM |
#45 |
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No, it's really not |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 08:21 AM |
#79 |
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You think that a preemie in an incubator in the NICU |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 08:24 AM |
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LOL! |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 10:44 AM |
#83 |
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I am still astounded by that post. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 11:33 AM |
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It's part of the "slippery slope" we open ourselves up for |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 12:15 PM |
#87 |
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Do I need to edit my post, since reading comprehension is an issue? |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 05:58 PM |
#156 |
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No. You just need to pay more attention to what you are responding to. |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 07:22 PM |
#166 |
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Nice, but wrong. |
kiahzero |
Apr-09-04 08:08 AM |
#178 |
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Whoops. I was joking. |
Frodo |
Apr-09-04 09:06 AM |
#179 |
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Here we go |
kiahzero |
Apr-09-04 09:22 AM |
#181 |
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Alright, let's try this again. |
Frodo |
Apr-09-04 10:46 AM |
#187 |
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Good Points |
outinforce |
Apr-09-04 11:19 AM |
#188 |
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Good catch |
kiahzero |
Apr-09-04 04:37 PM |
#191 |
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Depends: |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:01 PM |
#109 |
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LOL |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 04:08 PM |
#110 |
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Your conditions for life are what are laughable |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:17 PM |
#115 |
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If they were truly dead, it wouldn't be qualified as *brain* death |
redqueen |
Apr-08-04 04:24 PM |
#118 |
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Death is not death? |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:41 PM |
#130 |
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Yes, a variety of death |
redqueen |
Apr-08-04 04:46 PM |
#133 |
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To me, medically dead is medically dead. |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:48 PM |
#134 |
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other than the fact that you are defining brain death and not death |
dsc |
Apr-08-04 04:56 PM |
#139 |
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I've had difficulty finding information on such cases |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 05:44 PM |
#151 |
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Here are several broad categories |
dsc |
Apr-08-04 08:49 PM |
#171 |
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*sigh* |
redqueen |
Apr-08-04 04:56 PM |
#140 |
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The key here is "to ME" |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 07:26 PM |
#168 |
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Those are not conditions for life. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 04:25 PM |
#120 |
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It's mind-boggling |
redqueen |
Apr-08-04 04:29 PM |
#121 |
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Medically, yes |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:39 PM |
#127 |
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I Do Have A Problem Here |
outinforce |
Apr-08-04 04:31 PM |
#123 |
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I do not define "life" as such. |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:37 PM |
#125 |
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How So? |
outinforce |
Apr-08-04 04:24 PM |
#117 |
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Good question |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:43 PM |
#131 |
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I Think It Clears Up THAT Question |
outinforce |
Apr-08-04 04:56 PM |
#141 |
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Speaking of a definition of life drawn from medicine |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 05:05 PM |
#144 |
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Direct Question. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 04:38 PM |
#126 |
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I fail to see a distinction between a womb and an incubator |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:46 PM |
#132 |
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You didn't answer my question. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 04:49 PM |
#135 |
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You misread my post |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:55 PM |
#138 |
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I didn't think you answered earlier either |
redqueen |
Apr-08-04 04:59 PM |
#143 |
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What do you mean? |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 05:19 PM |
#147 |
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Referring to your response |
redqueen |
Apr-08-04 05:27 PM |
#149 |
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Yes. |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 05:42 PM |
#150 |
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I'd be happy to |
redqueen |
Apr-08-04 05:54 PM |
#154 |
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Go ahead and PM me when you get a chance |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 05:55 PM |
#155 |
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A few more questions |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 09:48 PM |
#172 |
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you complain that I call you a eugenecist, which I didn't, |
dsc |
Apr-08-04 04:53 PM |
#137 |
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Once again |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:58 PM |
#142 |
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The whole premise of permitting abortion |
dsc |
Apr-08-04 05:08 PM |
#145 |
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That is not my premise |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 05:20 PM |
#148 |
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I will give you kudos for intellectual honesty |
dsc |
Apr-09-04 09:40 AM |
#183 |
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I guess you get points for consistency |
dsc |
Apr-08-04 10:50 AM |
#84 |
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IQ is completely irrelavant to the discussion at hand |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:10 PM |
#111 |
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You do realize that |
dsc |
Apr-08-04 04:25 PM |
#119 |
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That's an attitude I thought I only saw |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-08-04 12:19 PM |
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Ad hominem attacks and assertions, oh my! |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 03:52 PM |
#106 |
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If it is alive , how come it is not born naturally at five months instead |
Marianne |
Apr-08-04 06:23 PM |
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The "logic" of your argument is not compelling. |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 10:23 PM |
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I think you misread me. |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 08:18 AM |
#78 |
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Your Proof Demonstrates No Such Thing. |
outinforce |
Apr-08-04 01:03 PM |
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there is no "being" inside the mother. |
Marianne |
Apr-08-04 06:13 PM |
#160 |
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Please clarify. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 10:02 PM |
#173 |
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I Think I Detect a Flaw In Your Logic |
outinforce |
Apr-08-04 12:55 PM |
#100 |
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You may assert that, if and only if, |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 03:43 PM |
#103 |
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Life and Death |
outinforce |
Apr-08-04 04:14 PM |
#113 |
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It is a possibility, but it is an essential one |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 04:31 PM |
#124 |
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Exactly, I Think |
outinforce |
Apr-08-04 04:49 PM |
#136 |
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that was a wonderful presentation- |
Marianne |
Apr-08-04 06:07 PM |
#159 |
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If the right was truely 'pro-life' roe would be overturned |
goddess40 |
Apr-08-04 02:14 PM |
#102 |
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You are mistaken about the Supreme Court |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 03:50 PM |
#105 |
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5 gave bush the white house isn't that proof enough? |
goddess40 |
Apr-08-04 05:46 PM |
#152 |
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Not really. |
kiahzero |
Apr-08-04 05:51 PM |
#153 |
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Why is it.. |
Heyo |
Apr-08-04 03:54 PM |
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The right wing has defined a medical procedure as baby-killing. |
Cleita |
Apr-07-04 08:33 PM |
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I agree. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 08:34 PM |
#6 |
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Would It Not Be Just As Accurate |
outinforce |
Apr-09-04 09:53 AM |
#185 |
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I think there are a lot more Pro-Choice Repugs then Pro-life Dems. |
fearnobush |
Apr-07-04 08:26 PM |
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Sorry. Not even close to true. |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 09:53 PM |
#20 |
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Pro life Democrats just can't get elected |
Warpy |
Apr-07-04 08:44 PM |
#7 |
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Yeah those conservative bastards Dennis Kucinich |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 09:02 PM |
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The utter disrespect towards pro lifers on this board |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 09:30 PM |
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That's very interesting information. Thank you. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 09:39 PM |
#13 |
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You are welcome |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 09:46 PM |
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That's for sure. It's really depressing to feel ostracized.. |
lostnfound |
Apr-07-04 11:15 PM |
#50 |
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poll after poll show most Americans lean pro-choice |
rumguy |
Apr-07-04 09:48 PM |
#17 |
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But are not 100% for abortion in all cases |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:51 PM |
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see post 12 |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 09:55 PM |
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Ok, so we'll use those numbers. |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 10:03 PM |
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But the party doesn't "lean" pro-choice. |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 10:01 PM |
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it's a reaction to the extremism of the right |
rumguy |
Apr-07-04 10:26 PM |
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Yep -it's the gun argument in reverse... and they're winning this one. |
Frodo |
Apr-07-04 10:39 PM |
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You make excellent points here. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 10:51 PM |
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This thread hits close to home for me. |
Just Me Here |
Apr-07-04 10:48 PM |
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Damnit, Sam, why the hell didn't you return my call yesterday? |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 10:59 PM |
#46 |
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Hmmm... |
Just Me Here |
Apr-07-04 11:24 PM |
#53 |
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I vote for Democrats despite being pro life |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 11:11 PM |
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Bush Republicans claim to be pro-life |
DaveSZ |
Apr-07-04 11:36 PM |
#55 |
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. |
DaveSZ |
Apr-07-04 11:42 PM |
#56 |
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I agree with the basic concept of this thread though |
DaveSZ |
Apr-07-04 11:45 PM |
#58 |
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those would be some of the other issues I meant |
dsc |
Apr-07-04 11:46 PM |
#59 |
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I'm with dsc here |
BigThama |
Apr-07-04 11:44 PM |
#57 |
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Couple of things. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-07-04 11:53 PM |
#60 |
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On that first point... |
BigThama |
Apr-08-04 08:09 AM |
#74 |
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Yes, we got over 60 posts before any did any name-calling! |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 08:21 AM |
#80 |
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Ugh. |
BigThama |
Apr-08-04 10:15 AM |
#82 |
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But isn't the product of a rape still an innocent baby? |
kitkatrose |
Apr-08-04 12:51 PM |
#98 |
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On the subject of avoiding unwanted pregnancies... |
Nobody |
Apr-08-04 10:15 PM |
#174 |
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Very sensible comments. This entire thread has been great. |
lostnfound |
Apr-09-04 08:05 AM |
#177 |
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Even Though You Don't Say This. |
outinforce |
Apr-09-04 01:21 PM |
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My problem with Pro Life is the narrow focus |
Sunny_Sunshine |
Apr-08-04 11:51 AM |
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And don't forget the Death Penalty! |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 12:19 PM |
#90 |
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I'm O-Neg, as well. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 12:39 PM |
#94 |
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I think pro-lifers have hijacked the term. |
dawn |
Apr-08-04 12:42 PM |
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I am pro-life. |
chair094 |
Apr-08-04 05:14 PM |
#146 |
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Barking up the wrong tree... |
Just Me Here |
Apr-09-04 12:16 AM |
#175 |
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Well, what about the kids we kill in foreign wars? |
dawn |
Apr-08-04 12:19 PM |
#88 |
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True, but does that make their argument wrong? |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 12:51 PM |
#99 |
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I'm sorry. |
Just Me Here |
Apr-09-04 12:19 AM |
#176 |
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Please Allow Me.... |
outinforce |
Apr-08-04 03:49 PM |
#104 |
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I'm in that Jimmy Carter school of thought myself. |
MrSlayer |
Apr-07-04 11:55 PM |
#61 |
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No simple reason the "majority" is allegedly lost |
ZombyWoof |
Apr-08-04 12:36 AM |
#62 |
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Bravo! |
Susang |
Apr-08-04 12:57 AM |
#63 |
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and another thing |
ZombyWoof |
Apr-08-04 01:02 AM |
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Single defining issue? |
mulethree |
Apr-08-04 01:53 AM |
#65 |
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A couple responses |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 05:47 AM |
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The short answer |
Lexingtonian |
Apr-08-04 06:28 AM |
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The problem with that theory is that... |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 07:39 AM |
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So there are that many people are so stupid |
JNelson6563 |
Apr-08-04 07:11 AM |
#68 |
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Just compare it to the number of people who... |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 07:42 AM |
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dumb |
gpandas |
Apr-08-04 04:16 PM |
#114 |
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Give an inch... |
LeahMira |
Apr-08-04 07:32 AM |
#69 |
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The slippery slope argument |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-08-04 08:02 AM |
#73 |
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I don't see anyone here arguing to take away an inch. |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 08:12 AM |
#76 |
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The Pro-Life movement is an arm of the GOP |
markus |
Apr-08-04 07:58 AM |
#72 |
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No it's not. |
BigThama |
Apr-08-04 08:12 AM |
#75 |
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Well... Yes and No. |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 08:17 AM |
#77 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-08-04 12:22 PM |
#91 |
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I'm probably going to be flamed, but...(long) |
dawn |
Apr-08-04 12:32 PM |
#92 |
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great post! (eom) |
apnu |
Apr-08-04 12:36 PM |
#93 |
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I am not advocating that Democrats abandon pro-choice |
southerngirlwriter |
Apr-08-04 12:43 PM |
#96 |
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Thank you |
skippysmom |
Apr-08-04 12:47 PM |
#97 |
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Democrats cannot allow themselves to be sucked in by wedge issues |
bigbillhaywood |
Apr-08-04 04:13 PM |
#112 |
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a sensible approach...play to your strengths |
noiretblu |
Apr-08-04 06:01 PM |
#157 |
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Thanks, it's been a while since anyone on DU accused my ideas of being |
bigbillhaywood |
Apr-08-04 06:05 PM |
#158 |
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Yes |
redqueen |
Apr-08-04 04:22 PM |
#116 |
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The Democratic party... |
Q |
Apr-08-04 04:30 PM |
#122 |
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Except she didn't say to throw the issue away |
redqueen |
Apr-08-04 04:40 PM |
#128 |
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There's a difference between 'differing views'... |
Q |
Apr-08-04 06:30 PM |
#162 |
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Ummmmmm No. Not even close. |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 06:45 PM |
#163 |
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my only concern |
ulysses |
Apr-08-04 04:40 PM |
#129 |
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Hmmm. Then how do you explain...? |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 06:48 PM |
#164 |
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The One Thing Common Among Pro-Lifers |
voted4wellstone |
Apr-08-04 06:48 PM |
#165 |
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Riiiight. |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 07:25 PM |
#167 |
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What? Like Prenatal And Post-Natal Care |
voted4wellstone |
Apr-08-04 08:32 PM |
#169 |
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No. And I think you know it. |
Frodo |
Apr-08-04 08:41 PM |
#170 |
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I wish the dems could drop the abortion issue. I really don't |
okieinpain |
Apr-09-04 09:13 AM |
#180 |
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"think about how easy it is to say you're for the unborn" |
outinforce |
Apr-09-04 09:28 AM |
#182 |
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If somebody votes Republican on this one issue.... |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-09-04 09:44 AM |
#184 |
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Fair Enough |
outinforce |
Apr-09-04 09:56 AM |
#186 |
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If Dems were as consistent about war as they are about choice.. |
lostnfound |
Apr-09-04 11:26 AM |
#189 |
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