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Wed Apr-07-04 05:37 PM
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| 109. I've got to get back to work, but first I'll stir things up with this. |
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Ok here goes:
Just as the war in Iraq is growing terrorist groups, so is Christian-bashing by the left growing the religious right. Discuss.
First person to think it's cleverness to say that this means Christians are the same as the terrorist groups, gets to be the first person to completely miss the point and waste our time in this discussion.
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| -To my fellow DU Atheists, Agnostics, and Nontheists |
Az |
Apr-07-04 03:42 PM |
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Thank you |
wryter2000 |
Apr-07-04 03:44 PM |
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Insane is as insane does |
muchacho |
Apr-07-04 03:48 PM |
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Then argue the facts |
Az |
Apr-07-04 03:54 PM |
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You cant argue with someone who says |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:22 PM |
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i may or may not agree with you, |
rdfi-defi |
Apr-07-04 04:25 PM |
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Yes you can argue with someone who says that! Just watch me |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:26 PM |
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Whatever dude |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:28 PM |
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I believe in evolution |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:42 PM |
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Sorry, i didnt think "dude" was name calling |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:49 PM |
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The crack about evolution was |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:59 PM |
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He/she's very sensitive. |
bobbyboucher |
Apr-07-04 08:57 PM |
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christians shouldn't have a problem with evolution |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 05:09 PM |
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Most Christians don't |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:14 PM |
#94 |
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Hitler and the Nazi's |
polazarus |
Apr-07-04 08:56 PM |
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Groups claiming the truth |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:09 PM |
#148 |
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My advice to anyone |
polazarus |
Apr-07-04 10:24 PM |
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i may or may not agree with you, |
rdfi-defi |
Apr-07-04 04:28 PM |
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Believing in something in the absence of reason |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:32 PM |
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Faith is belief in the absence of proof |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:43 PM |
#60 |
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And the "reasoning mind" |
Sophree |
Apr-07-04 04:34 PM |
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I disagree entirely |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 05:00 PM |
#78 |
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So you disbelieve science |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:05 PM |
#86 |
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You kidding me? Doubting Thomas comes to mind. Religion hates |
leesa |
Apr-07-04 08:54 PM |
#139 |
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"fantastical occurrences"?? |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 09:39 PM |
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If I gave you a really long list |
RichardRay |
Apr-07-04 04:34 PM |
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I doubt it |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:45 PM |
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Look, one could write books on this subject. I reduced my comment |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:54 PM |
#71 |
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IOW, you divide people into two groups |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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What you've just described is fideism. |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 05:16 PM |
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Well, the thread was a good attempt anyhow |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 08:58 PM |
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Learning does not happen instantly |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:11 PM |
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I haven't given up either |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:33 PM |
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Didn't God just speak to a woman & tell her to kill her kids? |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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No. |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:05 PM |
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Wrong answer. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:15 PM |
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"A housewife who said ..." The housewife "said". Not God. |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:19 PM |
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I didn't call her insane, i reported the news from the court case. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:23 PM |
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Do you believe that God spoke to her? |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:26 PM |
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Well, since God is an imaginary construct in ones own mind - |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:38 PM |
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Yes or no. Do you believe God spoke to her? |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:41 PM |
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Hey, if God speaks to you, and he speaks to others |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:54 PM |
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It's a fairly simple question |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 09:44 PM |
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I believe she heard the same voice Abraham did |
truthspeaker |
Apr-08-04 08:37 AM |
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Yes, but that was Good God |
swag |
Apr-07-04 07:56 PM |
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well put, i agree |
rdfi-defi |
Apr-07-04 03:49 PM |
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Thank You |
jedicord |
Apr-07-04 03:49 PM |
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Honest to God |
Rowdyboy |
Apr-07-04 03:50 PM |
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I never had a bad thought about a non believer until... |
SaidFred |
Apr-07-04 03:52 PM |
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I am sorry that you had that experience, but let us take a look further |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 04:02 PM |
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How do we criticize?? |
chefgirl |
Apr-07-04 04:27 PM |
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In the words of Jesus Himself... |
Libertarialoon |
Apr-07-04 04:33 PM |
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and their fruits are? |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 04:48 PM |
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Many people who claim to be Christians |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:13 PM |
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Two greatest commandments |
Libertarialoon |
Apr-07-04 05:14 PM |
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Good point |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:17 PM |
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Isn't that a little too reductionist? |
dpibel |
Apr-07-04 08:59 PM |
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Wow! Very good questions |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 10:03 PM |
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well, in all sincerity, what is it exactly that makes them not "real" |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 04:39 PM |
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What's in their heart is what makes them Christian, or not. |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:47 PM |
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Apr-07-04 05:26 PM |
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Apr-07-04 07:31 PM |
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Apr-07-04 08:30 PM |
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Apr-07-04 09:25 PM |
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but to us you're all Christians |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 05:04 PM |
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But even so |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:21 PM |
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Read my above reply |
chefgirl |
Apr-07-04 05:35 PM |
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No one bashes atheists for their lack of belief?? Only on a 24/7 basis |
leesa |
Apr-07-04 08:58 PM |
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I have to agree with you there |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 10:07 PM |
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I'll do unto them as they aren't doing on to me. |
DrWeird |
Apr-07-04 03:52 PM |
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I don't think you are evil and I don't judge who is going where.... |
SaidFred |
Apr-07-04 03:57 PM |
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Nope but my both of my grandmother's have said that to me |
Caution |
Apr-07-04 04:02 PM |
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I get that too... |
jedicord |
Apr-07-04 04:11 PM |
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Ok but no one here is you grandmother, cousin, or uncle right? |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 04:20 PM |
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converting |
gpandas |
Apr-07-04 04:51 PM |
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the specific people who tried to convert you "they" or the anyone who... |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 05:13 PM |
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did i make any other statement? |
gpandas |
Apr-07-04 07:07 PM |
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I don't know, I'm just asking.. :) |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 08:39 PM |
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No, but St. Paul did |
Book Lover |
Apr-07-04 04:06 PM |
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feh - Paul. |
ulysses |
Apr-07-04 04:08 PM |
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yoked with unbelievers |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:39 PM |
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Well, Paul said it |
Book Lover |
Apr-07-04 05:49 PM |
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Atheists are affected by this religious society |
Az |
Apr-07-04 04:14 PM |
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Many atheists when applying for jobs, hesitate to declare their |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 05:18 PM |
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I Was "Agnostic" For Awhile... I Was Also "Bisexual" For Awhile |
arwalden |
Apr-07-04 05:41 PM |
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Sorry, but the Scouts can have anybody they want as members |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:03 PM |
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Oh I agree |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:15 PM |
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Then we are back to a basic question |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:36 PM |
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I cannot choose to believe in god |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:44 PM |
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I disagree |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:47 PM |
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Agreed, however |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:54 PM |
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Isn't that a distinction without a difference? |
dpibel |
Apr-07-04 11:04 PM |
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My point is this |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 11:28 PM |
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Not when they are meeting in public schools, they can't |
Misinformed01 |
Apr-08-04 08:24 AM |
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that was nice to hear |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:00 PM |
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Not an apologist for rudeness but I tend to remind that heat comes from |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-07-04 04:00 PM |
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Only when the thread is about it |
cheezus |
Apr-07-04 04:01 PM |
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well said. |
ulysses |
Apr-07-04 04:02 PM |
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Ahhhhh shaddup ! ... |
Trajan |
Apr-07-04 04:04 PM |
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If people keep bringing up their religious beliefs |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:12 PM |
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Advice is NOT interference .... |
Trajan |
Apr-07-04 04:14 PM |
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Who said it was? |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:15 PM |
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Arbiter? |
Az |
Apr-07-04 04:18 PM |
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Do what you will then |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:19 PM |
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I agree... |
alg0912 |
Apr-07-04 04:13 PM |
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It seems to me it's only a handfull of non-believing posters who insult |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 04:14 PM |
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I agree - I do the same thing on my side of the "isle" |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 04:22 PM |
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Yeah, use the narc button |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:29 PM |
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I agree 100% with the first sentence of your post |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 04:57 PM |
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Okay, well if DU is not the place to discuss it, |
swag |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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agreed |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 05:03 PM |
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public office |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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Not narcing |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:07 PM |
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Yeah, but what if you hit the alert when Christians call other Christians |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 05:40 PM |
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Wow |
chefgirl |
Apr-07-04 07:35 PM |
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Oh I know |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 08:06 PM |
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Enough already |
chefgirl |
Apr-07-04 10:17 PM |
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Az, with that post you became a giant among human beings... :) |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 04:18 PM |
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you all know about Internet Infidels, right? |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 04:25 PM |
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Sure. What about it? |
JanMichael |
Apr-07-04 04:31 PM |
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it's a discussion board where religion bashing isn't just allowed |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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nonsense |
JNelson6563 |
Apr-07-04 05:09 PM |
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what false statement? |
truthspeaker |
Apr-08-04 07:40 AM |
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Criticism and debate are not necessarily "bashing". |
JanMichael |
Apr-07-04 07:14 PM |
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don't forget about pascal's wager |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:32 PM |
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subject |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:34 PM |
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Yeah, |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:32 PM |
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I don't "bash believers." |
NightTrain |
Apr-07-04 04:29 PM |
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This Atheist agrees 100%. Liberal Theists are our FRIENDS. |
JanMichael |
Apr-07-04 04:30 PM |
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I never thought you were a horrible person, Az. |
Sophree |
Apr-07-04 04:31 PM |
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don't forget about pascal's wager |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:32 PM |
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How could I possibly forget something that was posted |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:36 PM |
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accident |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:40 PM |
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That reminds me of something a friend of mine once said |
Sophree |
Apr-07-04 04:38 PM |
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What an unfortunate argument |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:48 PM |
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was it really that bad? |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:56 PM |
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sorry to carry on here, |
swag |
Apr-07-04 05:16 PM |
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of course not |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 11:01 PM |
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Unfortunately , it's higher |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:38 PM |
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ok, let me rephrase for a new generation ;) |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:43 PM |
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Buddhists beleive there is no god? |
patcox2 |
Apr-07-04 10:34 PM |
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Who dat? |
dpibel |
Apr-07-04 11:37 PM |
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Pascal's solution was a cowardly way out. |
DrWeird |
Apr-07-04 04:46 PM |
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on being phony |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:51 PM |
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Here's a slightly different perspective on your wise post. |
msmcghee |
Apr-07-04 04:37 PM |
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A problem with that argument |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:12 PM |
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What we hope for |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:30 PM |
#156 |
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Imposing your views |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:38 PM |
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Vote their conscience |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:48 PM |
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There you go |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 11:29 PM |
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What about those of us who are |
ArkDem |
Apr-07-04 04:42 PM |
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Apr-07-04 04:47 PM |
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In the immortal words of William Shakespeare |
ArkDem |
Apr-07-04 04:57 PM |
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Darn |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:59 PM |
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The Spectacle Erases |
ArkDem |
Apr-07-04 05:06 PM |
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Thank you, Az |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-07-04 04:44 PM |
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How about this: Religion (a/k/ "faith") is the source of all |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:59 PM |
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You mean like Mao's Cultural Revolution? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-07-04 05:02 PM |
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See...? No religion, no prosecution. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:20 PM |
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I got a joke for you |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:25 PM |
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But did they have unwavering "faith" in their cause? You betcha. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:33 PM |
#107 |
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Bait and Switch? |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:46 PM |
#114 |
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And what you will find when all is totalled |
Az |
Apr-07-04 05:54 PM |
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Az, you hit the nail on the head. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 07:00 PM |
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Yes, he did |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 10:12 PM |
#170 |
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That's exactly right. Religion as personal piety, sure. Religion as.... |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 07:20 PM |
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Amen |
Mattforclark |
Apr-07-04 05:04 PM |
#85 |
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I've got to get back to work, but first I'll stir things up with this. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-07-04 05:37 PM |
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i'll go one further |
hippiegranny |
Apr-07-04 06:09 PM |
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I think the answer to that is obvious |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 10:15 PM |
#172 |
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You win, you said it first! |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 06:57 PM |
#121 |
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Christian bashing? |
bobbyboucher |
Apr-07-04 09:10 PM |
#149 |
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Didn't get much responses, but... |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-07-04 10:28 PM |
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Step back, take a breath. |
msmcghee |
Apr-07-04 06:03 PM |
#118 |
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I agree, thanks Az |
SheepyMcSheepster |
Apr-07-04 07:02 PM |
#123 |
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Well said! |
spooky3 |
Apr-07-04 07:03 PM |
#124 |
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Stop criticizing my tools, and look at my house! (more..) |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 07:17 PM |
#127 |
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well, you're putting words in my post, as anyone can see, |
swag |
Apr-07-04 08:15 PM |
#134 |
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There is no straw man... because I am not aruging against your post. |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 08:24 PM |
#135 |
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I really don't see a lot of bashing |
Djinn |
Apr-07-04 07:32 PM |
#130 |
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Oh not so! |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 08:30 PM |
#136 |
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true |
Djinn |
Apr-07-04 09:09 PM |
#147 |
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I can't deny that - you're right about the vast majority... :( |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 10:15 PM |
#171 |
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this atheist never bashes DU believers |
ZombyWoof |
Apr-07-04 09:14 PM |
#152 |
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I'm Here, I'm Loud-----------Relax n/t |
UTUSN |
Apr-07-04 09:14 PM |
#153 |
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No problem with being loud |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:33 PM |
#157 |
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Arrogance... |
BigThama |
Apr-07-04 09:46 PM |
#164 |
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I say what I always say |
Skittles |
Apr-07-04 10:55 PM |
#177 |
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Atheists bashing the religious |
troublemaker |
Apr-07-04 11:37 PM |
#182 |
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Thank you Az |
dryan |
Apr-08-04 08:16 AM |
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Its not easy |
Az |
Apr-08-04 08:30 AM |
#191 |
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Troublemaker.... |
BigThama |
Apr-08-04 08:20 AM |
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my words exactly... |
EV1Ltimm |
Apr-08-04 08:09 AM |
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Can you break 50 cents |
Az |
Apr-08-04 08:13 AM |
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zing! |
EV1Ltimm |
Apr-08-04 08:18 AM |
#188 |
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