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| 46. don't forget about pascal's wager |
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the probability of god existing is 1 in 2. either he does or doesn't. so it is in one's best intrest to assume he does. man, philosophy was easy in the 17th century wasn't it!?  |
| -To my fellow DU Atheists, Agnostics, and Nontheists |
Az |
Apr-07-04 03:42 PM |
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Thank you |
wryter2000 |
Apr-07-04 03:44 PM |
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Insane is as insane does |
muchacho |
Apr-07-04 03:48 PM |
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Then argue the facts |
Az |
Apr-07-04 03:54 PM |
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You cant argue with someone who says |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:22 PM |
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i may or may not agree with you, |
rdfi-defi |
Apr-07-04 04:25 PM |
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Yes you can argue with someone who says that! Just watch me |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:26 PM |
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Whatever dude |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:28 PM |
#36 |
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I believe in evolution |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:42 PM |
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Sorry, i didnt think "dude" was name calling |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:49 PM |
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The crack about evolution was |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:59 PM |
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He/she's very sensitive. |
bobbyboucher |
Apr-07-04 08:57 PM |
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christians shouldn't have a problem with evolution |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 05:09 PM |
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Most Christians don't |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:14 PM |
#94 |
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Hitler and the Nazi's |
polazarus |
Apr-07-04 08:56 PM |
#140 |
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Groups claiming the truth |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:09 PM |
#148 |
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My advice to anyone |
polazarus |
Apr-07-04 10:24 PM |
#174 |
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i may or may not agree with you, |
rdfi-defi |
Apr-07-04 04:28 PM |
#37 |
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Believing in something in the absence of reason |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:32 PM |
#43 |
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Faith is belief in the absence of proof |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:43 PM |
#60 |
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And the "reasoning mind" |
Sophree |
Apr-07-04 04:34 PM |
#49 |
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I disagree entirely |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 05:00 PM |
#78 |
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So you disbelieve science |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:05 PM |
#86 |
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You kidding me? Doubting Thomas comes to mind. Religion hates |
leesa |
Apr-07-04 08:54 PM |
#139 |
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"fantastical occurrences"?? |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 09:39 PM |
#161 |
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If I gave you a really long list |
RichardRay |
Apr-07-04 04:34 PM |
#50 |
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I doubt it |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:45 PM |
#63 |
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Look, one could write books on this subject. I reduced my comment |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:54 PM |
#71 |
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IOW, you divide people into two groups |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
#79 |
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What you've just described is fideism. |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 05:16 PM |
#97 |
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Well, the thread was a good attempt anyhow |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 08:58 PM |
#142 |
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Learning does not happen instantly |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:11 PM |
#150 |
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I haven't given up either |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:33 PM |
#158 |
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Didn't God just speak to a woman & tell her to kill her kids? |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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No. |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:05 PM |
#87 |
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Wrong answer. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:15 PM |
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"A housewife who said ..." The housewife "said". Not God. |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:19 PM |
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I didn't call her insane, i reported the news from the court case. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:23 PM |
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Do you believe that God spoke to her? |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:26 PM |
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Well, since God is an imaginary construct in ones own mind - |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:38 PM |
#110 |
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Yes or no. Do you believe God spoke to her? |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:41 PM |
#113 |
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Hey, if God speaks to you, and he speaks to others |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:54 PM |
#117 |
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It's a fairly simple question |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 09:44 PM |
#162 |
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I believe she heard the same voice Abraham did |
truthspeaker |
Apr-08-04 08:37 AM |
#192 |
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Yes, but that was Good God |
swag |
Apr-07-04 07:56 PM |
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well put, i agree |
rdfi-defi |
Apr-07-04 03:49 PM |
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Thank You |
jedicord |
Apr-07-04 03:49 PM |
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Honest to God |
Rowdyboy |
Apr-07-04 03:50 PM |
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I never had a bad thought about a non believer until... |
SaidFred |
Apr-07-04 03:52 PM |
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I am sorry that you had that experience, but let us take a look further |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 04:02 PM |
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How do we criticize?? |
chefgirl |
Apr-07-04 04:27 PM |
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In the words of Jesus Himself... |
Libertarialoon |
Apr-07-04 04:33 PM |
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and their fruits are? |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 04:48 PM |
#67 |
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Many people who claim to be Christians |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:13 PM |
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Two greatest commandments |
Libertarialoon |
Apr-07-04 05:14 PM |
#93 |
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Good point |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:17 PM |
#98 |
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Isn't that a little too reductionist? |
dpibel |
Apr-07-04 08:59 PM |
#144 |
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Wow! Very good questions |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 10:03 PM |
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well, in all sincerity, what is it exactly that makes them not "real" |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 04:39 PM |
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What's in their heart is what makes them Christian, or not. |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 04:47 PM |
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Apr-07-04 05:26 PM |
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Apr-07-04 06:15 PM |
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Apr-07-04 07:31 PM |
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Apr-07-04 08:30 PM |
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Apr-07-04 09:25 PM |
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but to us you're all Christians |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 05:04 PM |
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But even so |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:21 PM |
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Read my above reply |
chefgirl |
Apr-07-04 05:35 PM |
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No one bashes atheists for their lack of belief?? Only on a 24/7 basis |
leesa |
Apr-07-04 08:58 PM |
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I have to agree with you there |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 10:07 PM |
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I'll do unto them as they aren't doing on to me. |
DrWeird |
Apr-07-04 03:52 PM |
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I don't think you are evil and I don't judge who is going where.... |
SaidFred |
Apr-07-04 03:57 PM |
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Nope but my both of my grandmother's have said that to me |
Caution |
Apr-07-04 04:02 PM |
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I get that too... |
jedicord |
Apr-07-04 04:11 PM |
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Ok but no one here is you grandmother, cousin, or uncle right? |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 04:20 PM |
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converting |
gpandas |
Apr-07-04 04:51 PM |
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the specific people who tried to convert you "they" or the anyone who... |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 05:13 PM |
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did i make any other statement? |
gpandas |
Apr-07-04 07:07 PM |
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I don't know, I'm just asking.. :) |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 08:39 PM |
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No, but St. Paul did |
Book Lover |
Apr-07-04 04:06 PM |
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feh - Paul. |
ulysses |
Apr-07-04 04:08 PM |
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yoked with unbelievers |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:39 PM |
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Well, Paul said it |
Book Lover |
Apr-07-04 05:49 PM |
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Atheists are affected by this religious society |
Az |
Apr-07-04 04:14 PM |
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Many atheists when applying for jobs, hesitate to declare their |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 05:18 PM |
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I Was "Agnostic" For Awhile... I Was Also "Bisexual" For Awhile |
arwalden |
Apr-07-04 05:41 PM |
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Sorry, but the Scouts can have anybody they want as members |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:03 PM |
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Oh I agree |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:15 PM |
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Then we are back to a basic question |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:36 PM |
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I cannot choose to believe in god |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:44 PM |
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I disagree |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:47 PM |
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Agreed, however |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:54 PM |
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Isn't that a distinction without a difference? |
dpibel |
Apr-07-04 11:04 PM |
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My point is this |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 11:28 PM |
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Not when they are meeting in public schools, they can't |
Misinformed01 |
Apr-08-04 08:24 AM |
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that was nice to hear |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:00 PM |
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Not an apologist for rudeness but I tend to remind that heat comes from |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Apr-07-04 04:00 PM |
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Only when the thread is about it |
cheezus |
Apr-07-04 04:01 PM |
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well said. |
ulysses |
Apr-07-04 04:02 PM |
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Ahhhhh shaddup ! ... |
Trajan |
Apr-07-04 04:04 PM |
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If people keep bringing up their religious beliefs |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:12 PM |
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Advice is NOT interference .... |
Trajan |
Apr-07-04 04:14 PM |
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Who said it was? |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:15 PM |
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Arbiter? |
Az |
Apr-07-04 04:18 PM |
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Do what you will then |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:19 PM |
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I agree... |
alg0912 |
Apr-07-04 04:13 PM |
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It seems to me it's only a handfull of non-believing posters who insult |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 04:14 PM |
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I agree - I do the same thing on my side of the "isle" |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 04:22 PM |
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Yeah, use the narc button |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:29 PM |
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I agree 100% with the first sentence of your post |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 04:57 PM |
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Okay, well if DU is not the place to discuss it, |
swag |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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agreed |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 05:03 PM |
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public office |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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Not narcing |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:07 PM |
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Yeah, but what if you hit the alert when Christians call other Christians |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 05:40 PM |
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Wow |
chefgirl |
Apr-07-04 07:35 PM |
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Oh I know |
Marianne |
Apr-07-04 08:06 PM |
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Enough already |
chefgirl |
Apr-07-04 10:17 PM |
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Az, with that post you became a giant among human beings... :) |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 04:18 PM |
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you all know about Internet Infidels, right? |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 04:25 PM |
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Sure. What about it? |
JanMichael |
Apr-07-04 04:31 PM |
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it's a discussion board where religion bashing isn't just allowed |
truthspeaker |
Apr-07-04 05:01 PM |
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nonsense |
JNelson6563 |
Apr-07-04 05:09 PM |
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what false statement? |
truthspeaker |
Apr-08-04 07:40 AM |
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Criticism and debate are not necessarily "bashing". |
JanMichael |
Apr-07-04 07:14 PM |
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don't forget about pascal's wager |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:32 PM |
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subject |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:34 PM |
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Yeah, |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:32 PM |
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I don't "bash believers." |
NightTrain |
Apr-07-04 04:29 PM |
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This Atheist agrees 100%. Liberal Theists are our FRIENDS. |
JanMichael |
Apr-07-04 04:30 PM |
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I never thought you were a horrible person, Az. |
Sophree |
Apr-07-04 04:31 PM |
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don't forget about pascal's wager |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:32 PM |
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How could I possibly forget something that was posted |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:36 PM |
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accident |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:40 PM |
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That reminds me of something a friend of mine once said |
Sophree |
Apr-07-04 04:38 PM |
#53 |
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What an unfortunate argument |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:48 PM |
#68 |
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was it really that bad? |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:56 PM |
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sorry to carry on here, |
swag |
Apr-07-04 05:16 PM |
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of course not |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 11:01 PM |
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Unfortunately , it's higher |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:38 PM |
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ok, let me rephrase for a new generation ;) |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:43 PM |
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Buddhists beleive there is no god? |
patcox2 |
Apr-07-04 10:34 PM |
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Who dat? |
dpibel |
Apr-07-04 11:37 PM |
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Pascal's solution was a cowardly way out. |
DrWeird |
Apr-07-04 04:46 PM |
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on being phony |
clonebot |
Apr-07-04 04:51 PM |
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Here's a slightly different perspective on your wise post. |
msmcghee |
Apr-07-04 04:37 PM |
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A problem with that argument |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:12 PM |
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What we hope for |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:30 PM |
#156 |
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Imposing your views |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 09:38 PM |
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Vote their conscience |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:48 PM |
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There you go |
Muddleoftheroad |
Apr-07-04 11:29 PM |
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What about those of us who are |
ArkDem |
Apr-07-04 04:42 PM |
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Apr-07-04 04:47 PM |
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In the immortal words of William Shakespeare |
ArkDem |
Apr-07-04 04:57 PM |
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Darn |
swag |
Apr-07-04 04:59 PM |
#75 |
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The Spectacle Erases |
ArkDem |
Apr-07-04 05:06 PM |
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Thank you, Az |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-07-04 04:44 PM |
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How about this: Religion (a/k/ "faith") is the source of all |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 04:59 PM |
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You mean like Mao's Cultural Revolution? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-07-04 05:02 PM |
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See...? No religion, no prosecution. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:20 PM |
#101 |
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I got a joke for you |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:25 PM |
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But did they have unwavering "faith" in their cause? You betcha. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 05:33 PM |
#107 |
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Bait and Switch? |
sangh0 |
Apr-07-04 05:46 PM |
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And what you will find when all is totalled |
Az |
Apr-07-04 05:54 PM |
#116 |
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Az, you hit the nail on the head. |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 07:00 PM |
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Yes, he did |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 10:12 PM |
#170 |
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That's exactly right. Religion as personal piety, sure. Religion as.... |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 07:20 PM |
#128 |
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Amen |
Mattforclark |
Apr-07-04 05:04 PM |
#85 |
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I've got to get back to work, but first I'll stir things up with this. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-07-04 05:37 PM |
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i'll go one further |
hippiegranny |
Apr-07-04 06:09 PM |
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I think the answer to that is obvious |
sangha |
Apr-07-04 10:15 PM |
#172 |
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You win, you said it first! |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-07-04 06:57 PM |
#121 |
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Christian bashing? |
bobbyboucher |
Apr-07-04 09:10 PM |
#149 |
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Didn't get much responses, but... |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-07-04 10:28 PM |
#175 |
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Step back, take a breath. |
msmcghee |
Apr-07-04 06:03 PM |
#118 |
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I agree, thanks Az |
SheepyMcSheepster |
Apr-07-04 07:02 PM |
#123 |
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Well said! |
spooky3 |
Apr-07-04 07:03 PM |
#124 |
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Stop criticizing my tools, and look at my house! (more..) |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 07:17 PM |
#127 |
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well, you're putting words in my post, as anyone can see, |
swag |
Apr-07-04 08:15 PM |
#134 |
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There is no straw man... because I am not aruging against your post. |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 08:24 PM |
#135 |
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I really don't see a lot of bashing |
Djinn |
Apr-07-04 07:32 PM |
#130 |
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Oh not so! |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 08:30 PM |
#136 |
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true |
Djinn |
Apr-07-04 09:09 PM |
#147 |
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I can't deny that - you're right about the vast majority... :( |
Selwynn |
Apr-07-04 10:15 PM |
#171 |
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this atheist never bashes DU believers |
ZombyWoof |
Apr-07-04 09:14 PM |
#152 |
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I'm Here, I'm Loud-----------Relax n/t |
UTUSN |
Apr-07-04 09:14 PM |
#153 |
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No problem with being loud |
Az |
Apr-07-04 09:33 PM |
#157 |
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Arrogance... |
BigThama |
Apr-07-04 09:46 PM |
#164 |
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I say what I always say |
Skittles |
Apr-07-04 10:55 PM |
#177 |
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Atheists bashing the religious |
troublemaker |
Apr-07-04 11:37 PM |
#182 |
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Thank you Az |
dryan |
Apr-08-04 08:16 AM |
#187 |
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Its not easy |
Az |
Apr-08-04 08:30 AM |
#191 |
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Troublemaker.... |
BigThama |
Apr-08-04 08:20 AM |
#189 |
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my words exactly... |
EV1Ltimm |
Apr-08-04 08:09 AM |
#185 |
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Can you break 50 cents |
Az |
Apr-08-04 08:13 AM |
#186 |
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zing! |
EV1Ltimm |
Apr-08-04 08:18 AM |
#188 |
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