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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 04:02 PM
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13. well said.
Especially agreed that religion has to remain a vital part of the discussion here.
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  -To my fellow DU Atheists, Agnostics, and Nontheists Az  Apr-07-04 03:42 PM   #0 
  - Thank you  wryter2000   Apr-07-04 03:44 PM   #1 
  - Insane is as insane does  muchacho   Apr-07-04 03:48 PM   #2 
  - Then argue the facts  Az   Apr-07-04 03:54 PM   #8 
  - You cant argue with someone who says  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 04:22 PM   #31 
     - i may or may not agree with you,  rdfi-defi   Apr-07-04 04:25 PM   #33 
     - Yes you can argue with someone who says that! Just watch me  sangh0   Apr-07-04 04:26 PM   #34 
     - Whatever dude  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 04:28 PM   #36 
     - I believe in evolution  sangh0   Apr-07-04 04:42 PM   #59 
     - Sorry, i didnt think "dude" was name calling  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 04:49 PM   #69 
     - The crack about evolution was  sangh0   Apr-07-04 04:59 PM   #77 
     - He/she's very sensitive.  bobbyboucher   Apr-07-04 08:57 PM   #141 
     - christians shouldn't have a problem with evolution  clonebot   Apr-07-04 05:09 PM   #90 
        - Most Christians don't  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:14 PM   #94 
     - Hitler and the Nazi's  polazarus   Apr-07-04 08:56 PM   #140 
        - Groups claiming the truth  Az   Apr-07-04 09:09 PM   #148 
           - My advice to anyone  polazarus   Apr-07-04 10:24 PM   #174 
     - i may or may not agree with you,  rdfi-defi   Apr-07-04 04:28 PM   #37 
        - Believing in something in the absence of reason  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 04:32 PM   #43 
        - Faith is belief in the absence of proof  sangh0   Apr-07-04 04:43 PM   #60 
     - And the "reasoning mind"  Sophree   Apr-07-04 04:34 PM   #49 
     - I disagree entirely  truthspeaker   Apr-07-04 05:00 PM   #78 
        - So you disbelieve science  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:05 PM   #86 
           - You kidding me? Doubting Thomas comes to mind. Religion hates  leesa   Apr-07-04 08:54 PM   #139 
              - "fantastical occurrences"??  sangha   Apr-07-04 09:39 PM   #161 
     - If I gave you a really long list  RichardRay   Apr-07-04 04:34 PM   #50 
     - I doubt it  sangh0   Apr-07-04 04:45 PM   #63 
     - Look, one could write books on this subject. I reduced my comment  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 04:54 PM   #71 
        - IOW, you divide people into two groups  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:01 PM   #79 
     - What you've just described is fideism.  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 05:16 PM   #97 
     - Well, the thread was a good attempt anyhow  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 08:58 PM   #142 
        - Learning does not happen instantly  Az   Apr-07-04 09:11 PM   #150 
           - I haven't given up either  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 09:33 PM   #158 
  - Didn't God just speak to a woman & tell her to kill her kids?  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 05:01 PM   # 
     - No.  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:05 PM   #87 
     - Wrong answer.  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 05:15 PM   #95 
        - "A housewife who said ..." The housewife "said". Not God.  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:19 PM   #100 
           - I didn't call her insane, i reported the news from the court case.  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 05:23 PM   #103 
              - Do you believe that God spoke to her?  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:26 PM   #106 
                 - Well, since God is an imaginary construct in ones own mind -  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 05:38 PM   #110 
                    - Yes or no. Do you believe God spoke to her?  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:41 PM   #113 
                       - Hey, if God speaks to you, and he speaks to others  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 05:54 PM   #117 
                       - It's a fairly simple question  sangha   Apr-07-04 09:44 PM   #162 
                       - I believe she heard the same voice Abraham did  truthspeaker   Apr-08-04 08:37 AM   #192 
     - Yes, but that was Good God  swag   Apr-07-04 07:56 PM   #132 
  - well put, i agree  rdfi-defi   Apr-07-04 03:49 PM   #3 
  - Thank You  jedicord   Apr-07-04 03:49 PM   #4 
  - Honest to God  Rowdyboy   Apr-07-04 03:50 PM   #5 
  - I never had a bad thought about a non believer until...  SaidFred   Apr-07-04 03:52 PM   #6 
  - I am sorry that you had that experience, but let us take a look further  Marianne   Apr-07-04 04:02 PM   #15 
  - How do we criticize??  chefgirl   Apr-07-04 04:27 PM   #35 
     - In the words of Jesus Himself...  Libertarialoon   Apr-07-04 04:33 PM   #47 
     - and their fruits are?  Marianne   Apr-07-04 04:48 PM   #67 
        - Many people who claim to be Christians  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:13 PM   #92 
        - Two greatest commandments  Libertarialoon   Apr-07-04 05:14 PM   #93 
           - Good point  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:17 PM   #98 
           - Isn't that a little too reductionist?  dpibel   Apr-07-04 08:59 PM   #144 
              - Wow! Very good questions  sangha   Apr-07-04 10:03 PM   #168 
     - well, in all sincerity, what is it exactly that makes them not "real"  Marianne   Apr-07-04 04:39 PM   #55 
     - What's in their heart is what makes them Christian, or not.  sangh0   Apr-07-04 04:47 PM   #66 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-04 05:26 PM   #105 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-04 06:15 PM   #120 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-04 07:31 PM   #129 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-04 08:30 PM   #137 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-04 09:25 PM   #155 
     - but to us you're all Christians  truthspeaker   Apr-07-04 05:04 PM   #84 
        - But even so  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:21 PM   #102 
        - Read my above reply  chefgirl   Apr-07-04 05:35 PM   #108 
  - No one bashes atheists for their lack of belief?? Only on a 24/7 basis  leesa   Apr-07-04 08:58 PM   #143 
     - I have to agree with you there  sangha   Apr-07-04 10:07 PM   #169 
  - I'll do unto them as they aren't doing on to me.  DrWeird   Apr-07-04 03:52 PM   #7 
  - I don't think you are evil and I don't judge who is going where....  SaidFred   Apr-07-04 03:57 PM   #9 
     - Nope but my both of my grandmother's have said that to me  Caution   Apr-07-04 04:02 PM   #14 
     - I get that too...  jedicord   Apr-07-04 04:11 PM   #19 
     - Ok but no one here is you grandmother, cousin, or uncle right?  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 04:20 PM   #29 
        - converting  gpandas   Apr-07-04 04:51 PM   # 
           - the specific people who tried to convert you "they" or the anyone who...  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 05:13 PM   #91 
              - did i make any other statement?  gpandas   Apr-07-04 07:07 PM   #125 
                 - I don't know, I'm just asking.. :)  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 08:39 PM   #138 
     - No, but St. Paul did  Book Lover   Apr-07-04 04:06 PM   #17 
     - feh - Paul.  ulysses   Apr-07-04 04:08 PM   #18 
     - yoked with unbelievers  clonebot   Apr-07-04 04:39 PM   #56 
        - Well, Paul said it  Book Lover   Apr-07-04 05:49 PM   #115 
     - Atheists are affected by this religious society  Az   Apr-07-04 04:14 PM   #22 
        - Many atheists when applying for jobs, hesitate to declare their  Marianne   Apr-07-04 05:18 PM   #99 
        - I Was "Agnostic" For Awhile... I Was Also "Bisexual" For Awhile  arwalden   Apr-07-04 05:41 PM   #112 
        - Sorry, but the Scouts can have anybody they want as members  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 09:03 PM   #145 
           - Oh I agree  Az   Apr-07-04 09:15 PM   #154 
           - Then we are back to a basic question  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 09:36 PM   #159 
              - I cannot choose to believe in god  Az   Apr-07-04 09:44 PM   #163 
              - I disagree  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 09:47 PM   #165 
                 - Agreed, however  Az   Apr-07-04 09:54 PM   #167 
              - Isn't that a distinction without a difference?  dpibel   Apr-07-04 11:04 PM   #179 
                 - My point is this  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 11:28 PM   #180 
           - Not when they are meeting in public schools, they can't  Misinformed01   Apr-08-04 08:24 AM   #190 
  - that was nice to hear  clonebot   Apr-07-04 04:00 PM   #10 
  - Not an apologist for rudeness but I tend to remind that heat comes from  JohnOneillsMemory   Apr-07-04 04:00 PM   #11 
  - Only when the thread is about it  cheezus   Apr-07-04 04:01 PM   #12 
  - well said.  ulysses   Apr-07-04 04:02 PM   #13 
  - Ahhhhh shaddup ! ...  Trajan   Apr-07-04 04:04 PM   #16 
  - If people keep bringing up their religious beliefs  swag   Apr-07-04 04:12 PM   #20 
  - Advice is NOT interference ....  Trajan   Apr-07-04 04:14 PM   #23 
  - Who said it was?  swag   Apr-07-04 04:15 PM   #25 
  - Arbiter?  Az   Apr-07-04 04:18 PM   #27 
     - Do what you will then  swag   Apr-07-04 04:19 PM   #28 
  - I agree...  alg0912   Apr-07-04 04:13 PM   #21 
  - It seems to me it's only a handfull of non-believing posters who insult  truthspeaker   Apr-07-04 04:14 PM   #24 
  - I agree - I do the same thing on my side of the "isle"  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 04:22 PM   #30 
  - Yeah, use the narc button  swag   Apr-07-04 04:29 PM   #39 
  - I agree 100% with the first sentence of your post  truthspeaker   Apr-07-04 04:57 PM   #74 
  - Okay, well if DU is not the place to discuss it,  swag   Apr-07-04 05:01 PM   # 
  - agreed  clonebot   Apr-07-04 05:03 PM   #83 
  - public office  clonebot   Apr-07-04 05:01 PM   #80 
  - Not narcing  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 09:07 PM   #146 
  - Yeah, but what if you hit the alert when Christians call other Christians  Marianne   Apr-07-04 05:40 PM   #111 
     - Wow  chefgirl   Apr-07-04 07:35 PM   #131 
        - Oh I know  Marianne   Apr-07-04 08:06 PM   #133 
           - Enough already  chefgirl   Apr-07-04 10:17 PM   #173 
  - Az, with that post you became a giant among human beings... :)  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 04:18 PM   #26 
  - you all know about Internet Infidels, right?  truthspeaker   Apr-07-04 04:25 PM   #32 
  - Sure. What about it?  JanMichael   Apr-07-04 04:31 PM   #42 
  - it's a discussion board where religion bashing isn't just allowed  truthspeaker   Apr-07-04 05:01 PM   #81 
     - nonsense  JNelson6563   Apr-07-04 05:09 PM   #89 
     - what false statement?  truthspeaker   Apr-08-04 07:40 AM   #184 
     - Criticism and debate are not necessarily "bashing".  JanMichael   Apr-07-04 07:14 PM   #126 
  - don't forget about pascal's wager  clonebot   Apr-07-04 04:32 PM   #44 
  - subject  swag   Apr-07-04 04:34 PM   #48 
  - Yeah,  swag   Apr-07-04 04:32 PM   #45 
  - I don't "bash believers."  NightTrain   Apr-07-04 04:29 PM   #38 
  - This Atheist agrees 100%. Liberal Theists are our FRIENDS.  JanMichael   Apr-07-04 04:30 PM   #40 
  - I never thought you were a horrible person, Az.  Sophree   Apr-07-04 04:31 PM   #41 
  - don't forget about pascal's wager  clonebot   Apr-07-04 04:32 PM   #46 
  - How could I possibly forget something that was posted  swag   Apr-07-04 04:36 PM   #51 
  - accident  clonebot   Apr-07-04 04:40 PM   #57 
  - That reminds me of something a friend of mine once said  Sophree   Apr-07-04 04:38 PM   #53 
  - What an unfortunate argument  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 04:48 PM   #68 
     - was it really that bad?  clonebot   Apr-07-04 04:56 PM   #72 
        - sorry to carry on here,  swag   Apr-07-04 05:16 PM   #96 
           - of course not  clonebot   Apr-07-04 11:01 PM   #178 
  - Unfortunately , it's higher  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 04:38 PM   #54 
  - ok, let me rephrase for a new generation ;)  clonebot   Apr-07-04 04:43 PM   #61 
  - Buddhists beleive there is no god?  patcox2   Apr-07-04 10:34 PM   #176 
     - Who dat?  dpibel   Apr-07-04 11:37 PM   #183 
  - Pascal's solution was a cowardly way out.  DrWeird   Apr-07-04 04:46 PM   #64 
     - on being phony  clonebot   Apr-07-04 04:51 PM   #70 
  - Here's a slightly different perspective on your wise post.  msmcghee   Apr-07-04 04:37 PM   #52 
  - A problem with that argument  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 09:12 PM   #151 
     - What we hope for  Az   Apr-07-04 09:30 PM   #156 
        - Imposing your views  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 09:38 PM   #160 
           - Vote their conscience  Az   Apr-07-04 09:48 PM   #166 
              - There you go  Muddleoftheroad   Apr-07-04 11:29 PM   #181 
  - What about those of us who are  ArkDem   Apr-07-04 04:42 PM   #58 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-04 04:47 PM   #65 
     - In the immortal words of William Shakespeare  ArkDem   Apr-07-04 04:57 PM   #73 
        - Darn  swag   Apr-07-04 04:59 PM   #75 
           - The Spectacle Erases  ArkDem   Apr-07-04 05:06 PM   #88 
  - Thank you, Az  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-07-04 04:44 PM   #62 
  - How about this: Religion (a/k/ "faith") is the source of all  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 04:59 PM   #76 
     - You mean like Mao's Cultural Revolution?  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-07-04 05:02 PM   #82 
        - See...? No religion, no prosecution.  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 05:20 PM   #101 
           - I got a joke for you  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:25 PM   #104 
              - But did they have unwavering "faith" in their cause? You betcha.  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 05:33 PM   #107 
                 - Bait and Switch?  sangh0   Apr-07-04 05:46 PM   #114 
                    - And what you will find when all is totalled  Az   Apr-07-04 05:54 PM   #116 
                       - Az, you hit the nail on the head.  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 07:00 PM   #122 
                       - Yes, he did  sangha   Apr-07-04 10:12 PM   #170 
                       - That's exactly right. Religion as personal piety, sure. Religion as....  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 07:20 PM   #128 
  - Amen  Mattforclark   Apr-07-04 05:04 PM   #85 
  - I've got to get back to work, but first I'll stir things up with this.  LoZoccolo   Apr-07-04 05:37 PM   #109 
  - i'll go one further  hippiegranny   Apr-07-04 06:09 PM   #119 
  - I think the answer to that is obvious  sangha   Apr-07-04 10:15 PM   #172 
  - You win, you said it first!  BlueEyedSon   Apr-07-04 06:57 PM   #121 
  - Christian bashing?  bobbyboucher   Apr-07-04 09:10 PM   #149 
  - Didn't get much responses, but...  LoZoccolo   Apr-07-04 10:28 PM   #175 
  - Step back, take a breath.  msmcghee   Apr-07-04 06:03 PM   #118 
  - I agree, thanks Az  SheepyMcSheepster   Apr-07-04 07:02 PM   #123 
  - Well said!  spooky3   Apr-07-04 07:03 PM   #124 
  - Stop criticizing my tools, and look at my house! (more..)  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 07:17 PM   #127 
  - well, you're putting words in my post, as anyone can see,  swag   Apr-07-04 08:15 PM   #134 
     - There is no straw man... because I am not aruging against your post.  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 08:24 PM   #135 
  - I really don't see a lot of bashing  Djinn   Apr-07-04 07:32 PM   #130 
  - Oh not so!  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 08:30 PM   #136 
     - true  Djinn   Apr-07-04 09:09 PM   #147 
        - I can't deny that - you're right about the vast majority... :(  Selwynn   Apr-07-04 10:15 PM   #171 
  - this atheist never bashes DU believers  ZombyWoof   Apr-07-04 09:14 PM   #152 
  - I'm Here, I'm Loud-----------Relax n/t  UTUSN   Apr-07-04 09:14 PM   #153 
  - No problem with being loud  Az   Apr-07-04 09:33 PM   #157 
  - Arrogance...  BigThama   Apr-07-04 09:46 PM   #164 
  - I say what I always say  Skittles   Apr-07-04 10:55 PM   #177 
  - Atheists bashing the religious  troublemaker   Apr-07-04 11:37 PM   #182 
  - Thank you Az  dryan   Apr-08-04 08:16 AM   #187 
  - Its not easy  Az   Apr-08-04 08:30 AM   #191 
  - Troublemaker....  BigThama   Apr-08-04 08:20 AM   #189 
  - my words exactly...  EV1Ltimm   Apr-08-04 08:09 AM   #185 
     - Can you break 50 cents  Az   Apr-08-04 08:13 AM   #186 
        - zing!  EV1Ltimm   Apr-08-04 08:18 AM   #188 
 

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