Terwilliger
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Wed Aug-06-03 11:18 AM
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| 45. we could simply mandate that free-market corporations |
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give 35% of all profits to a fund or account for their workers...then we could get rid of social security
OH YEAH! They wouldnt do that with a 2nd Amendment to their heads. I say bring social security down to 60 and cut off the government spending that isn't necessary, and eliminate corporate personhood, and mandate that corporations do MUCH MUCH MUCH more to assist their own workers.
I know, I know..."commie!" "socialist rat-bastard!"
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| -Did Dean "misspeak" about Social Security in his response to Kucinich? |
kentuck |
Aug-06-03 05:47 AM |
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yes I remmeber him saying it |
Cheswick |
Aug-06-03 05:49 AM |
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Howard "tap dancing" Dean. On MTP said he'd consider raising it. |
chimpymustgo |
Aug-06-03 05:59 AM |
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He tried to make a fool out of Dennis.. |
Kahuna |
Aug-06-03 06:44 AM |
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True, on both counts. |
chimpymustgo |
Aug-06-03 06:59 AM |
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No, at the end of his answer he said he wouldn't take it back to 65. |
brigadoon |
Aug-06-03 07:48 AM |
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The Republicans were already having a hay-day with this one |
Tinoire |
Aug-06-03 09:32 AM |
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Youch! |
NewYorkerfromMass |
Aug-06-03 12:51 PM |
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Early in the 90s... |
w13rd0 |
Aug-06-03 07:15 AM |
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Thanks w13rd0 ! |
kentuck |
Aug-06-03 07:23 AM |
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No "clarification" of his "misspeaking" there. |
revcarol |
Aug-06-03 07:31 AM |
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The quote you are referring to... |
w13rd0 |
Aug-06-03 08:09 AM |
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The quote is from the 90s? Or last month? |
tjdee |
Aug-06-03 08:18 AM |
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Dennis said Dean WANTS to raise the age limit and cut benefits. |
killbotfactory |
Aug-06-03 09:16 AM |
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That's not what Dean said. |
tjdee |
Aug-06-03 09:23 AM |
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That is what he said. |
killbotfactory |
Aug-06-03 09:30 AM |
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Can you show me in the transcript where he says "last resort"? |
tjdee |
Aug-06-03 12:11 PM |
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The quote you are referrencing... |
w13rd0 |
Aug-06-03 08:13 AM |
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more dupin |
w13rd0 |
Aug-06-03 08:19 AM |
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dupe |
w13rd0 |
Aug-06-03 08:26 AM |
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He did not deny that he supported raising it to 68 |
UnapologeticLiberal |
Aug-06-03 10:18 PM |
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Raising retirement age is ONLY solution, - should be at 70 by 2043 |
papau |
Aug-06-03 07:19 AM |
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So why did he DENY it last night? |
tjdee |
Aug-06-03 08:09 AM |
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That's what the DLC says |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-06-03 08:36 AM |
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I think both may be necessary |
UnapologeticLiberal |
Aug-06-03 10:24 PM |
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But there are no JOBS, dammit! |
Mairead |
Aug-06-03 08:51 AM |
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It's not really so much a question of "jobs" ... |
TahitiNut |
Aug-06-03 09:33 AM |
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Boy you would think that if a business owner could |
Yupster |
Aug-06-03 11:00 AM |
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"Would" or "could"? |
TahitiNut |
Aug-06-03 11:39 AM |
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Let's see. |
stickdog |
Aug-06-03 12:03 PM |
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I (almost fully) agree. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-06-03 08:55 AM |
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we could simply mandate that free-market corporations |
Terwilliger |
Aug-06-03 11:18 AM |
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A "fiscal timebomb" whose fuse is shortened with every taxcut... |
Junkdrawer |
Aug-06-03 12:11 PM |
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I see it beginning to implode in 2014. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-06-03 01:09 PM |
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We must get an anti-age discrimination law with some teeth, |
shimmergal |
Aug-06-03 10:20 AM |
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I agree |
UnapologeticLiberal |
Aug-06-03 10:20 PM |
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It's not "misspeaking" if he meant to say it. |
tjdee |
Aug-06-03 08:12 AM |
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Please, people - wake up to the REAL Dean! |
chimpymustgo |
Aug-06-03 08:34 AM |
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just another politician |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Aug-06-03 08:50 AM |
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When you lecture us about honesty |
dsc |
Aug-06-03 01:31 PM |
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In 1995, he said he wanted to raise the age to 70. |
tjdee |
Aug-06-03 09:58 PM |
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Dean is playing it smart |
indigo32 |
Aug-06-03 08:38 AM |
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Dean painted it like he absolutely wouldn't. |
tjdee |
Aug-06-03 08:46 AM |
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I heard Dean say this again on Russert - LAST MONTH |
Tinoire |
Aug-06-03 09:20 AM |
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He said he would leave open the option of raising the age one year. |
stickdog |
Aug-06-03 12:06 PM |
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How would DK like it if Dean pulled the same crap on him |
Pastiche423 |
Aug-06-03 12:48 PM |
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Don't forget about his support for a Flag Burning amendment |
dansolo |
Aug-06-03 10:15 PM |
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It depends on what the definition of "entertain" is... |
kentuck |
Aug-06-03 08:39 AM |
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It doesn't really matter, for me. |
tjdee |
Aug-06-03 08:49 AM |
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facts are stubborn this |
dsc |
Aug-06-03 01:36 PM |
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entertain has a pretty standard meaning |
dsc |
Aug-06-03 01:34 PM |
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Per DK- Enough money in SS for solvency until 2041 |
Tinoire |
Aug-06-03 09:05 AM |
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Social security is solvent to 2041 because |
Yupster |
Aug-06-03 11:12 AM |
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ummm |
samurai_jack |
Aug-06-03 09:25 AM |
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Exactly. |
tjdee |
Aug-06-03 09:27 AM |
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Here's the entire quote where he said he would entertain raising it |
Tinoire |
Aug-06-03 09:26 AM |
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So where does he say he wants to cut benefits and raise the age limit? |
killbotfactory |
Aug-06-03 10:27 AM |
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Dean supporter here |
Amerikav60 |
Aug-06-03 09:31 AM |
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Aug-06-03 09:34 AM |
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At what point was that again? |
killbotfactory |
Aug-06-03 10:26 AM |
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Yes, several years ago... |
w13rd0 |
Aug-06-03 11:19 AM |
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Lets see the links about what Dean said please... |
gully |
Aug-06-03 11:02 AM |
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He didn't lie, but it will look waffley. Not from 1995, but MTP (nt) |
jpgray |
Aug-06-03 11:03 AM |
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First TR & then DK played "Gotcha" with him. |
stickdog |
Aug-06-03 12:10 PM |
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yeah, bullsh!+ |
samurai_jack |
Aug-06-03 12:19 PM |
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Oh I agree, it can and will be pulled on every candidate (nt) |
jpgray |
Aug-06-03 01:55 PM |
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How's about a little perspective here... |
Nazgul35 |
Aug-06-03 11:27 AM |
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Dennis doesn't know the Constitution |
dansolo |
Aug-06-03 10:21 PM |
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With all the attention on Dean, the going-to-war votes have been forgotten |
madfloridian |
Aug-06-03 12:25 PM |
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Get used to it |
sangha |
Aug-06-03 01:40 PM |
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I'm looking at this from a slightly different angle |
Quahog |
Aug-06-03 12:33 PM |
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Aug-06-03 01:53 PM |
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That's SO constructive |
Quahog |
Aug-06-03 02:04 PM |
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