Comrade_Goldstein
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Tue Aug-05-03 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #25 |
| 26. It wasn't that simple |
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Edited on Tue Aug-05-03 11:27 AM by Comrade_Goldstein
The first option would have left hundreds of thousands dead on both sides, but that would have been military deaths. We chose instead to have civillians be killed, and that is morally unjustifiable. Yes the Japanese military was a threat, yes they did commit atrocities, and yes the Japanese people went along with it, however using that as a justification does little other than to say that 'since they commited atrocities we should be allowed to also.'
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| -NYT Editorial: Blood On Our Hands |
TXlib |
Aug-05-03 09:50 AM |
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Mandela is correct |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Aug-05-03 09:53 AM |
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But it ended the war... |
Nlighten1 |
Aug-05-03 10:09 AM |
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Japanese Guilt |
otohara |
Aug-05-03 10:12 AM |
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that would be hard to imagine... |
bpilgrim |
Aug-05-03 10:19 AM |
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VERY selective snip |
Devil Dog Dem |
Aug-05-03 10:13 AM |
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If you look at war like an accountant, you might have a point |
htuttle |
Aug-05-03 10:19 AM |
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sorry but that is not correct since the military leaders at that time |
bpilgrim |
Aug-05-03 10:23 AM |
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Now that you mention it...you're right |
htuttle |
Aug-05-03 10:27 AM |
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documents indicate that the real reason was the Soviets and |
bpilgrim |
Aug-05-03 10:37 AM |
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It sucked, but you know what? |
aquart |
Aug-05-03 12:32 PM |
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BS period |
bpilgrim |
Aug-05-03 10:21 AM |
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Wasn't deliberately selective... |
TXlib |
Aug-05-03 10:26 AM |
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I don't "Blame America First" |
jiacinto |
Aug-05-03 10:17 AM |
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you just use RW propaganda to try and make a point |
bpilgrim |
Aug-05-03 10:26 AM |
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I don't "Blame America First" |
jiacinto |
Aug-05-03 11:03 AM |
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"a record to be proud of" |
blindpig |
Aug-05-03 11:52 AM |
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Once again |
jiacinto |
Aug-05-03 02:36 PM |
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About the language you choose - no slip of the tongue, I'm sure... |
RichM |
Aug-05-03 02:51 PM |
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denial |
blindpig |
Aug-06-03 02:58 PM |
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Sounds like he's linking this to our "Invasion of Iraq".......Looking back |
KoKo01 |
Aug-05-03 10:22 AM |
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Intention to use nuclear force... |
realFedUp |
Aug-05-03 10:30 AM |
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This column is a pathetic apologia for state violence against civilians, |
RichM |
Aug-05-03 10:30 AM |
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Think about it, we could have used "Shock and Awe" on Japan, |
zbdent |
Aug-05-03 10:31 AM |
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that was 'SHOCK-N-AWE' to the whole WORLD |
bpilgrim |
Aug-05-03 10:40 AM |
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No, it wouldn't have. |
TXlib |
Aug-05-03 04:24 PM |
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why then did they finally surrender? |
bpilgrim |
Aug-05-03 10:33 AM |
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Here is Why The Japanese Surrendered |
outinforce |
Aug-05-03 10:52 AM |
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In his surrender speech... |
TXlib |
Aug-05-03 04:27 PM |
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There was no excuse for it |
Comrade_Goldstein |
Aug-05-03 10:42 AM |
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Rightly or Wrongly the nuclear genie is out of the bottle.... |
Gin |
Aug-05-03 10:55 AM |
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Kristoff Conveniently Ignores |
BushNixon04 |
Aug-05-03 11:01 AM |
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Well proven fact, but well-known? |
westerby |
Aug-05-03 12:00 PM |
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No, this is not well-known by most Americans. As for the NY Times, |
RichM |
Aug-05-03 01:06 PM |
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thanks for explaining... |
westerby |
Aug-07-03 04:21 AM |
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Oh bullshit. Seems clear to me the U.S. had two choices: |
DemLikr |
Aug-05-03 11:09 AM |
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It wasn't that simple |
Comrade_Goldstein |
Aug-05-03 11:25 AM |
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Huh? |
ProfessorGAC |
Aug-05-03 11:52 AM |
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I agree with everything you said . . . except the conclusion. |
whoYaCallinAlib |
Aug-05-03 12:03 PM |
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Wow, Am I Confused! |
ProfessorGAC |
Aug-06-03 03:10 PM |
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Perhaps |
CWebster |
Aug-05-03 12:17 PM |
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two points |
treepig |
Aug-05-03 12:52 PM |
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WARNING! I AM ABOUT TO GO OFF! |
RedSox02 |
Aug-06-03 03:11 PM |
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To say "anyone who thinks otherwise should get a clue" is extremely |
RichM |
Aug-06-03 03:56 PM |
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And their ports |
oneighty |
Aug-06-03 04:08 PM |
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