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Comrade_Goldstein Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 10:42 AM
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20. There was no excuse for it
The atomic bombings in Japan were morally abhorant at best, and an evil act of racism at the worst. Our government knew fully well of what would happen if those bombs were to be detonated, they were in the deserts in practice settings, and all of the setups in the testing area were destroyed in the area, we knew full well the destructive capability of the bomb. What's worst is that Truman was a racist, especially against those who were Japanese or East Asian in general. Regardless of this however, it was just plain morally wrong to knowingly kill innocent civillians when there are alternatives. It is a war crime to chose a method that will kill civillians to save your own military personnel. Yes what the Japanese soldiers did was wrong, however that does not justify our dropping of the bomb.
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  -NYT Editorial: Blood On Our Hands TXlib  Aug-05-03 09:50 AM   #0 
  - Mandela is correct  ElsewheresDaughter   Aug-05-03 09:53 AM   #1 
  - But it ended the war...  Nlighten1   Aug-05-03 10:09 AM   #2 
  - Japanese Guilt  otohara   Aug-05-03 10:12 AM   #3 
  - that would be hard to imagine...  bpilgrim   Aug-05-03 10:19 AM   #6 
  - VERY selective snip  Devil Dog Dem   Aug-05-03 10:13 AM   #4 
  - If you look at war like an accountant, you might have a point  htuttle   Aug-05-03 10:19 AM   #7 
  - sorry but that is not correct since the military leaders at that time  bpilgrim   Aug-05-03 10:23 AM   #10 
  - Now that you mention're right  htuttle   Aug-05-03 10:27 AM   #13 
     - documents indicate that the real reason was the Soviets and  bpilgrim   Aug-05-03 10:37 AM   #18 
  - It sucked, but you know what?  aquart   Aug-05-03 12:32 PM   #32 
  - BS period  bpilgrim   Aug-05-03 10:21 AM   #8 
  - Wasn't deliberately selective...  TXlib   Aug-05-03 10:26 AM   #11 
  - I don't "Blame America First"  jiacinto   Aug-05-03 10:17 AM   #5 
  - you just use RW propaganda to try and make a point  bpilgrim   Aug-05-03 10:26 AM   #12 
     - I don't "Blame America First"  jiacinto   Aug-05-03 11:03 AM   #24 
        - "a record to be proud of"  blindpig   Aug-05-03 11:52 AM   #27 
           - Once again  jiacinto   Aug-05-03 02:36 PM   #35 
              - About the language you choose - no slip of the tongue, I'm sure...  RichM   Aug-05-03 02:51 PM   #36 
                 - denial  blindpig   Aug-06-03 02:58 PM   #39 
  - Sounds like he's linking this to our "Invasion of Iraq".......Looking back  KoKo01   Aug-05-03 10:22 AM   #9 
  - Intention to use nuclear force...  realFedUp   Aug-05-03 10:30 AM   #14 
  - This column is a pathetic apologia for state violence against civilians,  RichM   Aug-05-03 10:30 AM   #15 
  - Think about it, we could have used "Shock and Awe" on Japan,  zbdent   Aug-05-03 10:31 AM   #16 
  - that was 'SHOCK-N-AWE' to the whole WORLD  bpilgrim   Aug-05-03 10:40 AM   #19 
  - No, it wouldn't have.  TXlib   Aug-05-03 04:24 PM   #37 
  - why then did they finally surrender?  bpilgrim   Aug-05-03 10:33 AM   #17 
  - Here is Why The Japanese Surrendered  outinforce   Aug-05-03 10:52 AM   #21 
     - In his surrender speech...  TXlib   Aug-05-03 04:27 PM   #38 
  - There was no excuse for it  Comrade_Goldstein   Aug-05-03 10:42 AM   #20 
  - Rightly or Wrongly the nuclear genie is out of the bottle....  Gin   Aug-05-03 10:55 AM   #22 
  - Kristoff Conveniently Ignores  BushNixon04   Aug-05-03 11:01 AM   #23 
  - Well proven fact, but well-known?  westerby   Aug-05-03 12:00 PM   #29 
     - No, this is not well-known by most Americans. As for the NY Times,  RichM   Aug-05-03 01:06 PM   #34 
        - thanks for explaining...  westerby   Aug-07-03 04:21 AM   #44 
  - Oh bullshit. Seems clear to me the U.S. had two choices:  DemLikr   Aug-05-03 11:09 AM   #25 
  - It wasn't that simple  Comrade_Goldstein   Aug-05-03 11:25 AM   #26 
     - Huh?  ProfessorGAC   Aug-05-03 11:52 AM   #28 
        - I agree with everything you said . . . except the conclusion.  whoYaCallinAlib   Aug-05-03 12:03 PM   #30 
           - Wow, Am I Confused!  ProfessorGAC   Aug-06-03 03:10 PM   #40 
  - Perhaps  CWebster   Aug-05-03 12:17 PM   #31 
  - two points  treepig   Aug-05-03 12:52 PM   #33 
  - WARNING! I AM ABOUT TO GO OFF!  RedSox02   Aug-06-03 03:11 PM   #41 
     - To say "anyone who thinks otherwise should get a clue" is extremely  RichM   Aug-06-03 03:56 PM   #42 
        - And their ports  oneighty   Aug-06-03 04:08 PM   #43 

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