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BlackRhino Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:33 PM
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110. COME ON!!!
The cherished conservative notion - now conventional wisdom - that Florida election law forced Katherine Harris to declare a winner in Florida within a specific number of days of the election. This seems, at first glance, to be a "fact." You hear it repeated over and over again, so why should you doubt it? After all, it says right there in black and white: "Declare the winner eight days after the election!" It's an open and shut case, right?

Of course not. Nothing is ever really that simple. Truth is, there was NOTHING in Florida election law that prevented that so-called "deadline" from being extended. Over the years, there have been numerous instances where states with similar laws extended this so-called "deadline," for a variety of reasons. Where Florida election law is entirely unambiguous, however, is that it allows for hand recounts.

So therein lies the conflict. How to judge the resolution? Look at it this way: Thanks to the multiple filters of corporate information control, journalistic sloth, a level of public apathy that the elites have spent decades cultivating, and the ever-dwindling American attention span, Katherine Harris (with a little help from the most ideologically doctrinaire Supreme Court in nearly a century) was able to use the excuse of having to stick to an arbitrary, meaningless "deadline" to break Florida's election laws by cutting short an ongoing recount process, subvert the heretofore sacrosanct foundational pillars of American democracy, and plant the crown of ultimate power upon the head of an incompetent and unworthy puppet for The Powers That Be.

Conclusion? They think cleaving to an arbitrary, meaningless technicality of a deadline is more important than making sure the candidate who actually received the most votes wins the election. That's really all you need to know about the "conservative" position on the Florida Election 2000 fiasco.
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  -Connect the Dots, America! Stephanie  Aug-06-03 12:16 AM   #0 
  - ~bUMp~  G_j   Aug-06-03 01:00 AM   #1 
  - well . . .  leftofthedial   Aug-06-03 01:04 AM   #2 
  - Seriously?  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 01:58 AM   #4 
     - you're absolutely right  leftofthedial   Aug-06-03 07:46 PM   #30 
        - How to combat this?  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 08:38 PM   #42 
           - It will take longer to rebuild education in America  leftofthedial   Aug-06-03 08:57 PM   #43 
           - Part of me thinks its hopeless  chadm   Aug-07-03 11:49 AM   #49 
           - Do want to have to walk to work?  soleft   Aug-09-03 09:29 AM   #81 
  - kick  tnlefty   Aug-06-03 01:09 AM   #3 
  - Am I just stating the obvious here? If so, why aren't these stories  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 01:50 PM   #5 
  - As I said - "16 words" was a setup of Rove's doing  Must_B_Free   Aug-06-03 07:05 PM   #8 
     - I really thought "16 words" was going to be to our advantage  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 07:25 PM   #13 
  - Last try  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 06:57 PM   #6 
  - the media can care less about the "dots" ...they have Kobe and gay  cthrumatrix   Aug-06-03 07:03 PM   #7 
  - Tin Foil hat I tell ya  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:07 PM   #9 
     - Ya have to be pretty naive to call FACTS 'tin foil'....  Q   Aug-06-03 07:16 PM   #11 
        - How could I accept that a coup took place in 2000  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:22 PM   #12 
           - Whew. Can you possibly be more uninformed?  Q   Aug-06-03 07:26 PM   #14 
           - What the florida supreme court did was illegal  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:31 PM   #16 
           - Didn't decide the election...and yet they stopped the recount.  Rex   Aug-08-03 02:45 AM   #69 
           - Ok, real slow now  JNelson6563   Aug-09-03 09:31 AM   #82 
           - COME ON!!!  BlackRhino   Aug-10-03 10:33 PM   #110 
           - BTW thank you for the links, I retract the tin foil comment  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:33 PM   #19 
           - I wonder how you would know  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 07:28 PM   #15 
           - They post the vote counts for everyone on the Supervisor of elections  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:32 PM   #18 
              - How would you know  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 07:33 PM   #21 
                 - Because there was only ONE vote for john mccain  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:36 PM   #24 
                    - Yes, but how do you know 100 people didn't vote for McCain?  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 07:40 PM   #26 
                       - Not following  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:43 PM   #29 
                          - I'm saying you have no way of knowing if that is correct  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 07:53 PM   #32 
                             - Im sorry for having some trust in my governmental system  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:55 PM   #33 
                                - THAT's your answer?  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 08:00 PM   #34 
                                - Well what am I supposed to do Stephanie  skudros   Aug-06-03 08:02 PM   #36 
                                   - Sweetheart, why would you assume that?  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 08:15 PM   #38 
                                   - I always thought that McCain lost SC because he pissed off the Religious  skudros   Aug-06-03 08:17 PM   #39 
                                      - Look into it.  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 08:18 PM   #40 
                                         - GRRRRRR  skudros   Aug-06-03 08:24 PM   #41 
                                   - That's what it always comes down to for these people  chadm   Aug-07-03 11:52 AM   #50 
                                   - The people you work for?  bitchkitty   Aug-09-03 09:12 AM   #80 
                                - trust but verify  HootieMcBoob   Aug-06-03 08:01 PM   #35 
           - voters names scrubbed from the rolls  HootieMcBoob   Aug-06-03 07:31 PM   #17 
           - If you 'know the laws of Florida'...  Q   Aug-06-03 07:33 PM   #20 
           - If you read my other post  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:35 PM   #22 
              - Don't tell me to're spreading disinformation...  Q   Aug-06-03 07:37 PM   #25 
                 - I dont have time right at this second  skudros   Aug-06-03 07:41 PM   #28 
                    - We're not attacking you  chadm   Aug-07-03 11:55 AM   #51 
           - So how come only 15 counties conducted the automatic recount  Samantha   Aug-06-03 09:02 PM   #44 
           - Your write-in vote.  Ani Yun Wiya   Aug-08-03 07:35 AM   #71 
           - Yea Right  Unforgiven   Aug-09-03 03:25 PM   #87 
  - That's it  HootieMcBoob   Aug-06-03 07:10 PM   #10 
  - connect these dots : 7x24 Kobe, gay priests and Arnold....  cthrumatrix   Aug-06-03 07:35 PM   #23 
  - You got it, Stephanie. Totally righteous dot work.  SpiralHawk   Aug-06-03 07:41 PM   #27 
  - Thanks SpiralHawk  Stephanie   Aug-06-03 07:48 PM   #31 
  - Mr. Wilson,  Pastiche423   Aug-06-03 08:09 PM   #37 
  - Where is the outrage at the Republicans  Swede   Aug-06-03 09:16 PM   #45 
  - Kind of makes you think...  chadm   Aug-07-03 11:59 AM   #52 
  - But a 20 year old isn't sucking Bush's dick  aquart   Aug-06-03 09:21 PM   #46 
  - Well, you have no way of knowing that either  Stephanie   Aug-07-03 11:35 AM   #47 
  - How dare you make such an UnAmerican accusation!!  ElementaryPenguin   Aug-07-03 11:46 AM   #48 
  - They Are!  chadm   Aug-07-03 12:00 PM   #53 
  - Yes, they are  drdigi420   Aug-07-03 12:06 PM   #54 
  - Even relatively well-read, well-informed people don't know this  Stephanie   Aug-07-03 04:00 PM   #59 
  - People deserve more credit....  rucky   Aug-09-03 03:38 PM   #88 
  - Is this is a review?  Wonder   Aug-07-03 12:07 PM   #55 
  - That's right, it's old news, from the last few weeks  Stephanie   Aug-07-03 12:12 PM   #57 
  - Where is the outrage?  Wonder   Aug-07-03 12:11 PM   #56 
  - I'm not sure what you mean by "old news"  Stephanie   Aug-07-03 12:28 PM   #58 
     - Hey Stef  Zan_of_Texas   Aug-07-03 05:18 PM   #60 
     - Excellent post! Thanks Zan  Stephanie   Aug-07-03 06:11 PM   #63 
     - A lot of our side had no Ideal they would have to be looking for.......  nolabels   Aug-09-03 04:48 PM   #93 
     - Yes that is the distinction  Wonder   Aug-09-03 04:57 PM   #95 
     - I mean it is old news (perhaps the query itself)  Wonder   Aug-09-03 04:55 PM   #94 
  - Al Gore connected a few dots today as he went through a litany of  Gloria   Aug-07-03 05:42 PM   #61 
  - I like the part where he says he was the first to get a pink slip  nolabels   Aug-07-03 06:10 PM   #62 
     - I can't wait to hear the Gore speech - hope to later tonight  Stephanie   Aug-07-03 06:13 PM   #64 
  - bookmark this thread!!  julka   Aug-08-03 12:00 AM   #65 
  - Al Gore was brilliant!  Stephanie   Aug-08-03 12:42 AM   #66 
     - no.....thank YOU!  julka   Aug-08-03 01:24 AM   #67 
  - I don't know if someone said this already, but the about Judicial ........  nolabels   Aug-08-03 02:07 AM   #68 
  - keep up the good work  gottaB   Aug-08-03 05:44 AM   #70 
  - Great articles! Thanks! Especially the PR Watch story - excerpt:  Stephanie   Aug-08-03 11:08 AM   #72 
     - Can we highlight that little number and paragraph, This is money from....  nolabels   Aug-08-03 11:36 AM   #73 
        - That's from JULY 2002! Now we know WHY they had to spend $200MM  Stephanie   Aug-08-03 04:11 PM   #75 
  - PNAC: a potential plague on the planet (eom)  oasis   Aug-08-03 01:20 PM   #74 
  - They are at it again  nolabels   Aug-08-03 04:48 PM   #76 
     - Iran is next  Stephanie   Aug-08-03 11:04 PM   #77 
        - Didn't you mean they are comming back for it ?  nolabels   Aug-09-03 03:17 AM   #78 
           - Thanks! Guess it's time to read a history of Iran/Contra  Stephanie   Aug-09-03 10:33 AM   #85 
              - Your welcome, Just trying to give helpers here.  nolabels   Aug-09-03 04:11 PM   #92 
              - That Works  Wonder   Aug-09-03 07:05 PM   #96 
                 - It would be a very interesting project to track the roles of Iran/Contra  Stephanie   Aug-09-03 07:59 PM   #97 
                    - It might even be interesting to backtrack this back to the Bay of Pigs  Wonder   Aug-09-03 08:11 PM   #98 
                    - DC Private investigator & CIA op used by Oliver North to harass  Wonder   Aug-09-03 08:42 PM   #99 
                    - various depositions  Wonder   Aug-09-03 08:49 PM   #100 
                    - Not an Easy Task  Wonder   Aug-09-03 09:01 PM   #101 
                    - Check out this article  Stephanie   Aug-09-03 09:16 PM   #102 
                       - Interesting the style almost discredits the information.  Wonder   Aug-09-03 09:33 PM   #104 
                    - One last thing (for this thread anyway) I assume you have seen this  Wonder   Aug-09-03 09:17 PM   #103 
  - Enron type accounting running offices of US Government ?  nolabels   Aug-09-03 09:06 AM   #79 
  - Great post Stephanie--  JNelson6563   Aug-09-03 09:39 AM   #83 
  - This isn't over! | Guardian: Who exposed whistleblower's wife?  Stephanie   Aug-09-03 10:32 AM   #84 
  - Yes, but when will the arrest someone, file charges, sieze evidence  nolabels   Aug-09-03 02:24 PM   #86 
     - Now this makes sense, this guy is a little higher up on the food chain  nolabels   Aug-09-03 10:59 PM   #105 
  - Outstanding work, Stephanie!  rezmutt   Aug-09-03 03:39 PM   #89 
  - Here's the PNAC Link - Straight From The Source  rucky   Aug-09-03 03:53 PM   #90 
  - Thanks! We also have a big file of PNAC articles here:  Stephanie   Aug-09-03 03:55 PM   #91 
  - A couple more things  nolabels   Aug-10-03 01:41 AM   #106 
  - thanks for bring it up  Wonder   Aug-10-03 08:35 PM   #107 
  - no labels reads my mind on several topics  julka   Aug-10-03 09:55 PM   #109 
     - I don't know anything about being a COMLIBsymp but its worth a.......  nolabels   Aug-10-03 11:46 PM   #111 
  - New to DU? see PNAC archive post# 91. A storehouse of information.  oasis   Aug-10-03 08:37 PM   #108 
  - Just thought I would give this a kick, maybe somebody has a dot...  nolabels   Aug-13-03 03:05 PM   #112 
  - synchroncity...just changed my sig line  noiretblu   Aug-13-03 03:37 PM   #113 

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