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Sun Aug-10-03 10:33 PM
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The cherished conservative notion - now conventional wisdom - that Florida election law forced Katherine Harris to declare a winner in Florida within a specific number of days of the election. This seems, at first glance, to be a "fact." You hear it repeated over and over again, so why should you doubt it? After all, it says right there in black and white: "Declare the winner eight days after the election!" It's an open and shut case, right?
Of course not. Nothing is ever really that simple. Truth is, there was NOTHING in Florida election law that prevented that so-called "deadline" from being extended. Over the years, there have been numerous instances where states with similar laws extended this so-called "deadline," for a variety of reasons. Where Florida election law is entirely unambiguous, however, is that it allows for hand recounts.
So therein lies the conflict. How to judge the resolution? Look at it this way: Thanks to the multiple filters of corporate information control, journalistic sloth, a level of public apathy that the elites have spent decades cultivating, and the ever-dwindling American attention span, Katherine Harris (with a little help from the most ideologically doctrinaire Supreme Court in nearly a century) was able to use the excuse of having to stick to an arbitrary, meaningless "deadline" to break Florida's election laws by cutting short an ongoing recount process, subvert the heretofore sacrosanct foundational pillars of American democracy, and plant the crown of ultimate power upon the head of an incompetent and unworthy puppet for The Powers That Be.
Conclusion? They think cleaving to an arbitrary, meaningless technicality of a deadline is more important than making sure the candidate who actually received the most votes wins the election. That's really all you need to know about the "conservative" position on the Florida Election 2000 fiasco.
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| -Connect the Dots, America! |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 12:16 AM |
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~bUMp~ |
G_j |
Aug-06-03 01:00 AM |
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well . . . |
leftofthedial |
Aug-06-03 01:04 AM |
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Seriously? |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 01:58 AM |
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you're absolutely right |
leftofthedial |
Aug-06-03 07:46 PM |
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How to combat this? |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 08:38 PM |
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It will take longer to rebuild education in America |
leftofthedial |
Aug-06-03 08:57 PM |
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Part of me thinks its hopeless |
chadm |
Aug-07-03 11:49 AM |
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Do want to have to walk to work? |
soleft |
Aug-09-03 09:29 AM |
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kick |
tnlefty |
Aug-06-03 01:09 AM |
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Am I just stating the obvious here? If so, why aren't these stories |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 01:50 PM |
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As I said - "16 words" was a setup of Rove's doing |
Must_B_Free |
Aug-06-03 07:05 PM |
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I really thought "16 words" was going to be to our advantage |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 07:25 PM |
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Last try |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 06:57 PM |
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the media can care less about the "dots" ...they have Kobe and gay |
cthrumatrix |
Aug-06-03 07:03 PM |
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Tin Foil hat I tell ya |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:07 PM |
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Ya have to be pretty naive to call FACTS 'tin foil'.... |
Q |
Aug-06-03 07:16 PM |
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How could I accept that a coup took place in 2000 |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:22 PM |
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Whew. Can you possibly be more uninformed? |
Q |
Aug-06-03 07:26 PM |
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What the florida supreme court did was illegal |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:31 PM |
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Didn't decide the election...and yet they stopped the recount. |
Rex |
Aug-08-03 02:45 AM |
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Ok, real slow now |
JNelson6563 |
Aug-09-03 09:31 AM |
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COME ON!!! |
BlackRhino |
Aug-10-03 10:33 PM |
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BTW thank you for the links, I retract the tin foil comment |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:33 PM |
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I wonder how you would know |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 07:28 PM |
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They post the vote counts for everyone on the Supervisor of elections |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:32 PM |
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How would you know |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 07:33 PM |
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Because there was only ONE vote for john mccain |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:36 PM |
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Yes, but how do you know 100 people didn't vote for McCain? |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 07:40 PM |
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Not following |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:43 PM |
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I'm saying you have no way of knowing if that is correct |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 07:53 PM |
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Im sorry for having some trust in my governmental system |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:55 PM |
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THAT's your answer? |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 08:00 PM |
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Well what am I supposed to do Stephanie |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 08:02 PM |
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Sweetheart, why would you assume that? |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 08:15 PM |
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I always thought that McCain lost SC because he pissed off the Religious |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 08:17 PM |
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Look into it. |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 08:18 PM |
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GRRRRRR |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 08:24 PM |
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That's what it always comes down to for these people |
chadm |
Aug-07-03 11:52 AM |
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The people you work for? |
bitchkitty |
Aug-09-03 09:12 AM |
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trust but verify |
HootieMcBoob |
Aug-06-03 08:01 PM |
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voters names scrubbed from the rolls |
HootieMcBoob |
Aug-06-03 07:31 PM |
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If you 'know the laws of Florida'... |
Q |
Aug-06-03 07:33 PM |
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If you read my other post |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:35 PM |
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Don't tell me to relax...you're spreading disinformation... |
Q |
Aug-06-03 07:37 PM |
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I dont have time right at this second |
skudros |
Aug-06-03 07:41 PM |
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We're not attacking you |
chadm |
Aug-07-03 11:55 AM |
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So how come only 15 counties conducted the automatic recount |
Samantha |
Aug-06-03 09:02 PM |
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Your write-in vote. |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Aug-08-03 07:35 AM |
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Yea Right |
Unforgiven |
Aug-09-03 03:25 PM |
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That's it |
HootieMcBoob |
Aug-06-03 07:10 PM |
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connect these dots : 7x24 Kobe, gay priests and Arnold.... |
cthrumatrix |
Aug-06-03 07:35 PM |
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You got it, Stephanie. Totally righteous dot work. |
SpiralHawk |
Aug-06-03 07:41 PM |
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Thanks SpiralHawk |
Stephanie |
Aug-06-03 07:48 PM |
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Mr. Wilson, |
Pastiche423 |
Aug-06-03 08:09 PM |
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Where is the outrage at the Republicans |
Swede |
Aug-06-03 09:16 PM |
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Kind of makes you think... |
chadm |
Aug-07-03 11:59 AM |
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But a 20 year old isn't sucking Bush's dick |
aquart |
Aug-06-03 09:21 PM |
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Well, you have no way of knowing that either |
Stephanie |
Aug-07-03 11:35 AM |
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How dare you make such an UnAmerican accusation!! |
ElementaryPenguin |
Aug-07-03 11:46 AM |
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They Are! |
chadm |
Aug-07-03 12:00 PM |
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Yes, they are |
drdigi420 |
Aug-07-03 12:06 PM |
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Even relatively well-read, well-informed people don't know this |
Stephanie |
Aug-07-03 04:00 PM |
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People deserve more credit.... |
rucky |
Aug-09-03 03:38 PM |
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Is this is a review? |
Wonder |
Aug-07-03 12:07 PM |
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That's right, it's old news, from the last few weeks |
Stephanie |
Aug-07-03 12:12 PM |
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Where is the outrage? |
Wonder |
Aug-07-03 12:11 PM |
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I'm not sure what you mean by "old news" |
Stephanie |
Aug-07-03 12:28 PM |
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Hey Stef |
Zan_of_Texas |
Aug-07-03 05:18 PM |
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Excellent post! Thanks Zan |
Stephanie |
Aug-07-03 06:11 PM |
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A lot of our side had no Ideal they would have to be looking for....... |
nolabels |
Aug-09-03 04:48 PM |
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Yes that is the distinction |
Wonder |
Aug-09-03 04:57 PM |
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I mean it is old news (perhaps the query itself) |
Wonder |
Aug-09-03 04:55 PM |
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Al Gore connected a few dots today as he went through a litany of |
Gloria |
Aug-07-03 05:42 PM |
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I like the part where he says he was the first to get a pink slip |
nolabels |
Aug-07-03 06:10 PM |
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I can't wait to hear the Gore speech - hope to later tonight |
Stephanie |
Aug-07-03 06:13 PM |
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bookmark this thread!! |
julka |
Aug-08-03 12:00 AM |
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Al Gore was brilliant! |
Stephanie |
Aug-08-03 12:42 AM |
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no.....thank YOU! |
julka |
Aug-08-03 01:24 AM |
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I don't know if someone said this already, but the about Judicial ........ |
nolabels |
Aug-08-03 02:07 AM |
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keep up the good work |
gottaB |
Aug-08-03 05:44 AM |
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Great articles! Thanks! Especially the PR Watch story - excerpt: |
Stephanie |
Aug-08-03 11:08 AM |
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Can we highlight that little number and paragraph, This is money from.... |
nolabels |
Aug-08-03 11:36 AM |
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That's from JULY 2002! Now we know WHY they had to spend $200MM |
Stephanie |
Aug-08-03 04:11 PM |
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PNAC: a potential plague on the planet (eom) |
oasis |
Aug-08-03 01:20 PM |
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They are at it again |
nolabels |
Aug-08-03 04:48 PM |
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Iran is next |
Stephanie |
Aug-08-03 11:04 PM |
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Didn't you mean they are comming back for it ? |
nolabels |
Aug-09-03 03:17 AM |
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Thanks! Guess it's time to read a history of Iran/Contra |
Stephanie |
Aug-09-03 10:33 AM |
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Your welcome, Just trying to give helpers here. |
nolabels |
Aug-09-03 04:11 PM |
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That Works |
Wonder |
Aug-09-03 07:05 PM |
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It would be a very interesting project to track the roles of Iran/Contra |
Stephanie |
Aug-09-03 07:59 PM |
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It might even be interesting to backtrack this back to the Bay of Pigs |
Wonder |
Aug-09-03 08:11 PM |
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DC Private investigator & CIA op used by Oliver North to harass |
Wonder |
Aug-09-03 08:42 PM |
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various depositions |
Wonder |
Aug-09-03 08:49 PM |
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Not an Easy Task |
Wonder |
Aug-09-03 09:01 PM |
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Check out this article |
Stephanie |
Aug-09-03 09:16 PM |
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Interesting the style almost discredits the information. |
Wonder |
Aug-09-03 09:33 PM |
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One last thing (for this thread anyway) I assume you have seen this |
Wonder |
Aug-09-03 09:17 PM |
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Enron type accounting running offices of US Government ? |
nolabels |
Aug-09-03 09:06 AM |
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Great post Stephanie-- |
JNelson6563 |
Aug-09-03 09:39 AM |
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This isn't over! | Guardian: Who exposed whistleblower's wife? |
Stephanie |
Aug-09-03 10:32 AM |
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Yes, but when will the arrest someone, file charges, sieze evidence |
nolabels |
Aug-09-03 02:24 PM |
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Now this makes sense, this guy is a little higher up on the food chain |
nolabels |
Aug-09-03 10:59 PM |
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Outstanding work, Stephanie! |
rezmutt |
Aug-09-03 03:39 PM |
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Here's the PNAC Link - Straight From The Source |
rucky |
Aug-09-03 03:53 PM |
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Thanks! We also have a big file of PNAC articles here: |
Stephanie |
Aug-09-03 03:55 PM |
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A couple more things |
nolabels |
Aug-10-03 01:41 AM |
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thanks for bring it up |
Wonder |
Aug-10-03 08:35 PM |
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no labels reads my mind on several topics |
julka |
Aug-10-03 09:55 PM |
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I don't know anything about being a COMLIBsymp but its worth a....... |
nolabels |
Aug-10-03 11:46 PM |
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New to DU? see PNAC archive post# 91. A storehouse of information. |
oasis |
Aug-10-03 08:37 PM |
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Just thought I would give this a kick, maybe somebody has a dot... |
nolabels |
Aug-13-03 03:05 PM |
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synchroncity...just changed my sig line |
noiretblu |
Aug-13-03 03:37 PM |
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